Editing Talk:Geno

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In my books, and [[Wikipedia:Saxon genitive|Wikipedia's]] (man I love that page :p) for that matter, the genitive for ally is "ally's" and not "allies", "allies'", "alliess" or anything similar. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:41, 17 June 2007 (EDT)

The Geno doll is last seen with the other protagonists on Vista Hill after the final battle. You may have to look closely, but he is there. Boo Dudley 11:03, 08 Feburary 2008

== Geno in Brawl? ==

[http://dpad.gotfrag.com/wii/story/41420]
In that link, there is a new, read it, it can be put in the article?{{unsigned|Mr.Game and Watch}}
:Of course not, the reason of delay is to make lotsa CDs {{User:McDimentio/sig}}
::These sources are very unreliable, they don't give any sources themselves and sound like made up. Their link to IMDB is wrong, as IMDB definitely doesn't list a Geno voice actor there. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 12:53, 20 February 2008 (EST)


== his name is ♡♪!? and not ♥♪!? i can't find the edit button for the 2 times it says ♥♪!? {{Unsigned|Dooom}}

♡ doesn't display correctly under our default font, so ♥ has to be used instead. {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig}} 04:28, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

I just wanna know why him??? 
He had like a 0% chance of being in brawl, seriously! 
If another character from the Mario series were to be playable it most definitely would have been Daisy. 
Just think about it. She is very popular and has appeared more than Waluigi and Bowser Jr. 
Sorry to all of you really wanting Geno,Waluigi,and Bowser Jr. to be playable but this is the truth. 
And I'm not just saying this because I love Daisy.

{{User:YoshiDaisyfan1/sig}}
:This is no message board for personal opinions. The talk pages are only to be used for discussions concerning the article. For everything else, there is the forum. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 00:45, 2 December 2009 (EST)

Ummmmmm,Edofenrir, that was your personal opinion.--[[User:Smileymiley5001|Smileymiley5001]] 07:05, 23 February 2011 (EST)
:No, that's the rules. Don't talk to him like that, he's a sysop. This is also no place for unrelated comments like that one. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}} 07:21, 23 February 2011 (EST)

== Geno's ♥♪!? name ==
It says that in the Jap. version that it shows his ♥♪!? name. If this is true then can someone find it out!!??--[[User:Yoshi104|Yoshi104]] 22:12, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

It is true.Plus, I dont think its unprounacable.You pronounce it like this: heartmusicnoteexclamationmarkquestionmark.(Hey, say that three times really fast!)--[[User:Smileymiley5001|Smileymiley5001]] 07:03, 23 February 2011 (EST)

I really don't think you pronounce it heartmusicnoteexclamationmarkquestionmark. I think that whatever language Geno's kind (which would be star people?) It actually means something, but to us it appears like random symbols.


== Editing the edit ==
Somebody added a little to something I put on the page. It's not bad, in fact, it works, but if you see this could you tell me?- Prince Materia

== Hard to pronounce ==

Is this said during the game, or in a manual because it kind of looks like an opinion? {{User|Yoshi876}}
:When Mario first meets Geno, he says something like: "I'm ♥♪!?, but it's hard to pronounce... so call me 'Geno'". --- {{User:ThePremiumYoshi/sig}} 17:25, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
: During the game. See [http://themushroomkingdom.net/smrpg_j-e.shtml#geno]. [[User:Another gossip-loving Toad|Another gossip-loving Toad]] ([[User talk:Another gossip-loving Toad|talk]]) 23:47, 25 November 2014 (EST)

== The SMW has no meaning. ==

His name is Geno, so why was the symbol  replaced with ℳ? No, I'm not playin' 1080° Avalanche.
<big>[[User:Unshy Guy|Unshy]][[User talk:Unshy Guy|Guy]]</big>
:Where is this, I don't see it? {{User|Yoshi876}}

Geno (slang)- meaning of this word is sexual related. 
Replaced by ♥ is acceptable

== Third Party ==

Geno should be categorized under "3rd Party characters" because Square Enix has ownership to the character and not Nintendo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3h7DSu90w [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 09:44, 15 October 2017 (EDT)
:Geno's a weird case. He's legally held by a third-party company, but he's also a Nintendo character. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:32, 15 October 2017 (EDT)

==Intellectual Property Laws==
It's said he belongs to Square-Enix, but from what I've found, the IP laws of most first-world countries state that any character or element created for a specific setting or franchise belongs to the owner of said setting or franchise. That's why Nintendo' uneasiness about including Diddy Kong in ''Mario Tennis'' for the 64 that led to him being replaced with DK Jr. was unfounded, as he's a Donkey Kong character. All those "original" characters you see on DeviantArt? They all belong to Nintendo as well due to that law. This law seems to be often overlooked, which caused the American ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' comics to be irrevocably damaged before being cancelled. Anyways, since Geno, Mallow, and all the other SMRPG characters (I'll discount Culex and the Crystals as they are a complete style-breaking allusion to FF) were created for the ''Mario'' setting, wouldn't they truly belong to Nintendo? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:33, 1 December 2017 (EST)
:I don't know how the law functions Japan regarding copyright ownership, but considering that the credits mention that Geno is the property of Square Enix and that they included Geno's costume in Sm4sh only AFTER Cloud's reveal, I think it's better to be safe than sorry and assume that these characters indeed are SQ's property. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:38, 1 December 2017 (EST)
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 It is true.Plus, I dont think its unprounacable.You pronounce it like this: heartmusicnoteexclamationmarkquestionmark.(Hey, say that three times really fast!)--[[User:Smileymiley5001|Smileymiley5001]] 07:03, 23 February 2011 (EST)
-I really don't think you pronounce it heartmusicnoteexclamationmarkquestionmark. I think that whatever language Geno's kind (which would be star people?) It actually means something, but to us it appears like random symbols. {{Unsigned|KoopaKing}}
+I really don't think you pronounce it heartmusicnoteexclamationmarkquestionmark. I think that whatever language Geno's kind (which would be star people?) It actually means something, but to us it appears like random symbols.
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 It's said he belongs to Square-Enix, but from what I've found, the IP laws of most first-world countries state that any character or element created for a specific setting or franchise belongs to the owner of said setting or franchise. That's why Nintendo' uneasiness about including Diddy Kong in ''Mario Tennis'' for the 64 that led to him being replaced with DK Jr. was unfounded, as he's a Donkey Kong character. All those "original" characters you see on DeviantArt? They all belong to Nintendo as well due to that law. This law seems to be often overlooked, which caused the American ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' comics to be irrevocably damaged before being cancelled. Anyways, since Geno, Mallow, and all the other SMRPG characters (I'll discount Culex and the Crystals as they are a complete style-breaking allusion to FF) were created for the ''Mario'' setting, wouldn't they truly belong to Nintendo? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:33, 1 December 2017 (EST)
 :I don't know how the law functions Japan regarding copyright ownership, but considering that the credits mention that Geno is the property of Square Enix and that they included Geno's costume in Sm4sh only AFTER Cloud's reveal, I think it's better to be safe than sorry and assume that these characters indeed are SQ's property. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:38, 1 December 2017 (EST)
-::Given that Nintendo (a Japanese company) kept ownership of the DK characters from RareWare (a British company) after Rare moved to Microsoft, I'd say they should apply to both of those countries. But as I said, they are often overlooked, as SEGA apparently didn't notice them until they [https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/sonicforces/sheet/99470/ decided to cameo the infamous "Sanic Hedgehog" in ''Sonic Forces'']. Anyways, I think the laws about that for those countries need investigated by someone. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:47, 1 December 2017 (EST)
-== Geno's offical render ==
-Geno's official render from Square Enix is on the Smashwiki page (the one you are using is a fan made recreation), i'd add it myself but i do not have an account here --[[Special:Contributions/75.157.48.130|75.157.48.130]] 01:26, 9 December 2018 (EST)
-:[https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/1/18/Genosmrpg.png] This? I doubt it's a "fan-made recreation," it's too perfect, and the only difference I see is the shoe shine. this new one is probably a touch-up, or they could both be from back then. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:43, 9 December 2018 (EST)
-still i suggest using the higher quality one given by Square Enix --[[Special:Contributions/75.157.48.130|75.157.48.130]] 21:01, 12 December 2018 (EST)
-== Move ==
-Ok so should we put
-*<b>Geno</b> A doll (who has been taken over by ❤️🎵!?)
-*Or
-*<b>Geno</b>  (whose real name is ❤️🎵!?)
-*NOTE: I might have got the real name wrong... {{User:HEROMARIO/sig}} 14:10, May 5, 2019 (EDT)
-:The article already says Geno is the doll's name and not the star warriors, though it could use a bit of a rewrite. "Geno A doll" doesn't sound right, so it'd be more accurate to say "Geno is a doll, possessed by the star warrior ♡♪!?...", or something. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:16, May 5, 2019 (EDT)
-== Special attack symbol ==
-In Trivia, it says "This also happens to be the only one of the aforementioned Special Moves that is not a playing card symbol."
-The star symbol is indeed a playing card symbol; it is the one used for the joker. {{unsigned|147.253.94.79}}
-== Create Geno (doll) / Geno doll article ==
-{{settled TPP}}
-{{proposal outcome|cancelled}}
-The Mario doll and Bowser doll have their own articles so it'd make sense for the Geno doll to get its own article too.
-'''Proposer''': {{User|Pizza Master}}<br>
-'''Deadline''': September 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT
-===Support===
-#{{User|Pizza Master}} Per my proposal.
-===Oppose===
-#{{User|Ray Trace}} Unlike Mario and Bowser, Geno is intrinsically linked to being a doll so I think this would split hairs where it's unnecessary.
-#{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Per Ray Trace.
-#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} The star and the doll are fundamentally inseparable from each other; it's the same reason why [[Kat & Ana]] aren't split.
-===Comments===
-Btw, I know Geno inherits the doll but they are a star and not the doll itself, so I think giving the actual doll an article makes perfect sense.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 21:19, September 16, 2024 (EDT)
-Also yes Geno is originally the doll's name but the star that inhabits it is commonly referred to as Geno, too.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 21:28, September 16, 2024 (EDT)
-==Proposal aftermath==
-While I'm not sure I necessarily agree with splitting, I do think the article could benefit from a slight rewrite to better distinguish the doll and emissary. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 05:16, September 20, 2024 (EDT)