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| It is true.Plus, I dont think its unprounacable.You pronounce it like this: heartmusicnoteexclamationmarkquestionmark.(Hey, say that three times really fast!)--[[User:Smileymiley5001|Smileymiley5001]] 07:03, 23 February 2011 (EST) | | It is true.Plus, I dont think its unprounacable.You pronounce it like this: heartmusicnoteexclamationmarkquestionmark.(Hey, say that three times really fast!)--[[User:Smileymiley5001|Smileymiley5001]] 07:03, 23 February 2011 (EST) |
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| I really don't think you pronounce it heartmusicnoteexclamationmarkquestionmark. I think that whatever language Geno's kind (which would be star people?) It actually means something, but to us it appears like random symbols. {{Unsigned|KoopaKing}} | | I really don't think you pronounce it heartmusicnoteexclamationmarkquestionmark. I think that whatever language Geno's kind (which would be star people?) It actually means something, but to us it appears like random symbols. |
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| Geno should be categorized under "3rd Party characters" because Square Enix has ownership to the character and not Nintendo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3h7DSu90w [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 09:44, 15 October 2017 (EDT) | | Geno should be categorized under "3rd Party characters" because Square Enix has ownership to the character and not Nintendo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3h7DSu90w [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 09:44, 15 October 2017 (EDT) |
| :Geno's a weird case. He's legally held by a third-party company, but he's also a Nintendo character. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:32, 15 October 2017 (EDT) | | :Geno's a weird case. He's legally held by a third-party company, but he's also a Nintendo character. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:32, 15 October 2017 (EDT) |
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| ==Intellectual Property Laws==
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| It's said he belongs to Square-Enix, but from what I've found, the IP laws of most first-world countries state that any character or element created for a specific setting or franchise belongs to the owner of said setting or franchise. That's why Nintendo' uneasiness about including Diddy Kong in ''Mario Tennis'' for the 64 that led to him being replaced with DK Jr. was unfounded, as he's a Donkey Kong character. All those "original" characters you see on DeviantArt? They all belong to Nintendo as well due to that law. This law seems to be often overlooked, which caused the American ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' comics to be irrevocably damaged before being cancelled. Anyways, since Geno, Mallow, and all the other SMRPG characters (I'll discount Culex and the Crystals as they are a complete style-breaking allusion to FF) were created for the ''Mario'' setting, wouldn't they truly belong to Nintendo? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:33, 1 December 2017 (EST)
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| :I don't know how the law functions Japan regarding copyright ownership, but considering that the credits mention that Geno is the property of Square Enix and that they included Geno's costume in Sm4sh only AFTER Cloud's reveal, I think it's better to be safe than sorry and assume that these characters indeed are SQ's property. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:38, 1 December 2017 (EST)
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| ::Given that Nintendo (a Japanese company) kept ownership of the DK characters from RareWare (a British company) after Rare moved to Microsoft, I'd say they should apply to both of those countries. But as I said, they are often overlooked, as SEGA apparently didn't notice them until they [https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/sonicforces/sheet/99470/ decided to cameo the infamous "Sanic Hedgehog" in ''Sonic Forces'']. Anyways, I think the laws about that for those countries need investigated by someone. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:47, 1 December 2017 (EST)
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| == Geno's offical render ==
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| Geno's official render from Square Enix is on the Smashwiki page (the one you are using is a fan made recreation), i'd add it myself but i do not have an account here --[[Special:Contributions/75.157.48.130|75.157.48.130]] 01:26, 9 December 2018 (EST)
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| :[https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/1/18/Genosmrpg.png] This? I doubt it's a "fan-made recreation," it's too perfect, and the only difference I see is the shoe shine. this new one is probably a touch-up, or they could both be from back then. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:43, 9 December 2018 (EST)
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| still i suggest using the higher quality one given by Square Enix --[[Special:Contributions/75.157.48.130|75.157.48.130]] 21:01, 12 December 2018 (EST)
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| == Move ==
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| Ok so should we put
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| *<b>Geno</b> A doll (who has been taken over by ❤️🎵!?)
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| *<b>Geno</b> (whose real name is ❤️🎵!?)
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| *NOTE: I might have got the real name wrong... {{User:HEROMARIO/sig}} 14:10, May 5, 2019 (EDT)
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| :The article already says Geno is the doll's name and not the star warriors, though it could use a bit of a rewrite. "Geno A doll" doesn't sound right, so it'd be more accurate to say "Geno is a doll, possessed by the star warrior ♡♪!?...", or something. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:16, May 5, 2019 (EDT)
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| In Trivia, it says "This also happens to be the only one of the aforementioned Special Moves that is not a playing card symbol."
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| The star symbol is indeed a playing card symbol; it is the one used for the joker. {{unsigned|147.253.94.79}}
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| == Create Geno (doll) / Geno doll article ==
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| {{settled TPP}}
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| {{proposal outcome|cancelled}}
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| The Mario doll and Bowser doll have their own articles so it'd make sense for the Geno doll to get its own article too.
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| '''Proposer''': {{User|Pizza Master}}<br>
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| '''Deadline''': September 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT
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| ===Support===
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| #{{User|Pizza Master}} Per my proposal.
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| ===Oppose===
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| #{{User|Ray Trace}} Unlike Mario and Bowser, Geno is intrinsically linked to being a doll so I think this would split hairs where it's unnecessary.
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| #{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Per Ray Trace.
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| #{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} The star and the doll are fundamentally inseparable from each other; it's the same reason why [[Kat & Ana]] aren't split.
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| Btw, I know Geno inherits the doll but they are a star and not the doll itself, so I think giving the actual doll an article makes perfect sense.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 21:19, September 16, 2024 (EDT)
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| Also yes Geno is originally the doll's name but the star that inhabits it is commonly referred to as Geno, too.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 21:28, September 16, 2024 (EDT)
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| ==Proposal aftermath==
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| While I'm not sure I necessarily agree with splitting, I do think the article could benefit from a slight rewrite to better distinguish the doll and emissary. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 05:16, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
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