Editing Talk:Galactic Tornado

Doesn't it sound a bit too minor? Does it even relate to the [[Tweester]]? {{User:RAP/sig}} [[Special:Contributions/RAP|On the track with the items lists as I am interrupted by this topic.]]
:I have galaxy and never saw that one before {{User:McDimentio/sig}}

::I don't remember seeing these guys either. Maybe describing what they look like, I may remember. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/382576 GENO WHIRL!] http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif


Seeing than this article is a stub and link to a planet article, I say it's an article about a Beta-Elements thing that was made before Galaxy release. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 11:27, 16 February 2008 (EST)

Is this name official?? {{user:Mario jc/sig}}

Wait, when were these ever found in Bowser's Galaxy Reactor...? 
{{User:Phoenix/sig}} 04:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

:On the quicksand planet. They can be seen on the other side of the planet if you long jump away from the planet's starting position, I think. {{user:Mario jc/sig}}

Oh, alright then, I just never noticed them...
{{User:Phoenix/sig}} 04:58, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

==Add some more info to this, while removing some sections from the Tweester article==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|0-12|do not merge}}
First things first.

We should change the title to just Tornado, because they go by that name in the Super Mario Galaxy Instruction Booklet.

Furthermore...
since the article will then be about ALL Tornadoes we can move the SMB3,SM64,NSMB,SMS & DDR:MM sections of the Tweester article (which are all about tornadoes in general, not Tweesters.) into the Tornado article.

(This will effect the Tornado and Tweester articles.)

'''Proposer''': {{User|IGGY7735}}

'''Voting start''': 7 December, 2010, 21;00<br>
'''Deadline''': 20 December, 2010 23:59 GMT.

===Support===

===Oppose===
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} Tweesters look different to these, and there are many more official sources than instruction books. I guess the name comes from one of these.
#{{User|FourPaperHeroes}} Per MrConcreteDonkey. I usually tend to not trust prima guide too much.
#{{User|SWFlash}} I just saw "just Tweester" in SMG as well as those tornados.
#{{User|Yoshiwaker47}} These are different because they're taller, and they help you, unlike Tweesters.
#{{User|Yoshigalaxy2}} They are totally different. Tweesters have faces and are WAY smaller than a galactic tornado. I think we should keep them as two articles.
#{{user|Coincollector}} - Per all, Also, as far as I know the "tornadoes" in SMB3 are called Tweesters. So if there is a tornado (whether it has eyes or not) that is called tweester goes to tweester.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all.
#{{User|New Super Mario}} They are different from each other
#{{User|Yoshi's Island}} - Per all.
#{{User|Laikue}} - Per all.
#{{User|Mario&Kirby180}} - Per all
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per all.

===Comments===
I don't see the point of this. <s>Neutral</s> {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
Why does mine say 1??? {{User:Yoshiwaker47/sig}}
:SWFlash's signature was doing it. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
::I accidenly put <nowiki>~~~</nowiki>, sorry. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

I'm not saying to merge them, i'm saying that '''some''' sections of the tweester article (like the SMB3 part) should be placed here AND in the Super Mario Galaxy Instruction booklet the Galactic Tornado is called a Tornado.

-IGGY7735
:Well, no. Galactic Tornadoes are '''Galactic''', which really doesn't scream 'desert' to me, and there are more recent and reliable sources than instruction booklets. {{User|MrConcreteDonkey}}

== Merge with Tornado ==

{{talk}}
Yes, I see the above proposal from seven years ago. However, with the recent [[Tornado]] page and the currently needed citation on this name, should this be merged with Tornado? Unless there's a Prima name somewhere (calling Time Turner). 

OR since this is named simply "tornado" in the instruction booklet, should this be moved to "Tornado (Super Mario Galaxy)" since this functions differently than the others? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:03, 12 November 2017 (EST)
:This functions ''exactly'' the same as the ones in SM64 and NSMB, the ONLY difference being that they "trap" you until you spin. The effects after that are exactly the same. The SMB3 and SMS ones are more different, as are the DKCTF ones. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:47, 12 November 2017 (EST)
::Bumping this; yes, it needs merged. Firstly, because the name "tornado" for these comes from the instruction booklet, which is on the highest-tier source for names, while "galactic tornado" is unsourced. Also, the arguments in the opposition from the proposal above made absolutely no sense, randomly badmouthing Prima for no reason despite them having nothing to do with this, and specifying that they're "galactic," as if that has any bearing on anything found in those games as well as other games. They also function basically the same as the tornadoes in ''Super Mario 64'' and ''New Super Mario Bros.''. There is no real reason these should be split, period. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:29, 27 December 2017 (EST)
:::afaik, only a proposal (or an admin decision) can overturn a proposal (not important enough for an admin decision, imo). {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:18, 27 December 2017 (EST)
::::But the situation regarding [[Hatopop|the bird known as "Cheep Cheep"]] was important enough to completely disregard rules, followed by creating a new rule to retroactively justify it? This situation seems more important than that. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:22, 27 December 2017 (EST)
:::::Hatopop was a different case; an anon was fighting for the name to change, despite one not being known at the time. Later, the dev name was located and a group of us, including most of the admins, on Discord agreed to the change. The rules weren't disregarded, it was discussed. And there was also a proposal surrounding the change of naming order. Difference here being that there is already a proposal in play, which Hatopop and the naming source order didn't have. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:29, 27 December 2017 (EST)
:::::if you think that's wrong (don't really like the whataboutism deflection employed here), then two wrongs don't make a right. i still suggest you err on caution and write a proposal asking to merge it. if you still have issues with the whole hatopop here, don't make a red herring about it and discuss it somewhere else {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:30, 27 December 2017 (EST)
::::::My point was the rules were a bit....swept under the rug, in that case (discussing on a different site, without a proposal, while that proposal about naming order came immediately after, as I already said), and the above proposal's opposition was rather ridiculous. Anyways, either I'll make a proposal about the tornado situation, or someone else hopefully will if I don't. By the way, I believe I heard that the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' [[Tweester]]s have an alternate Japanese name, making them a different thing....also Tweester's Names in other languages section needs a bit of work. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:40, 27 December 2017 (EST)

This should be done. I'd make a proposal myself, but I'm currently rather busy. Should I still the "mergeto" template on the mainspace, or does that need to wait until after a proposal has been made? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:36, 7 March 2018 (EST)

==Merge with [[Tornado]]==
{{TPP}}

This is a conjecturally-named relic from the time generic tornadoes were listed in the same page as [[Tweester]]s. These act roughly the same as the tornadoes in ''Super Mario 64'' and ''New Super Mario Bros.'', except for moving on a set path and having their helicopter jump boost be activated by spinning manually.

I get a lot more done this way when I have another proposal recently made to be more sure of the ending date with XD

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' September 16, 2018, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per proposal.

===Oppose===

===Comments===
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 :I have galaxy and never saw that one before {{User:McDimentio/sig}}
-::I don't remember seeing these guys either. Maybe describing what they look like, I may remember. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/382576 GENO WHIRL!]
+::I don't remember seeing these guys either. Maybe describing what they look like, I may remember. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/382576 GENO WHIRL!] http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif
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 ==Add some more info to this, while removing some sections from the Tweester article==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{SettledTPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|failed|0-12|do not merge}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|failed|0-12|do not merge}}
 First things first.
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 == Merge with Tornado ==
+{{talk}}
 Yes, I see the above proposal from seven years ago. However, with the recent [[Tornado]] page and the currently needed citation on this name, should this be merged with Tornado? Unless there's a Prima name somewhere (calling Time Turner).
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 ==Merge with [[Tornado]]==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|8-0|merge}}
 This is a conjecturally-named relic from the time generic tornadoes were listed in the same page as [[Tweester]]s. These act roughly the same as the tornadoes in ''Super Mario 64'' and ''New Super Mario Bros.'', except for moving on a set path and having their helicopter jump boost be activated by spinning manually.
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 '''Proposer:''' {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}}<br>
-'''Deadline:''' September 23, 2018, 23:59 GMT
+'''Deadline:''' September 16, 2018, 23:59 GMT
 ===Support===
-#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per proposal.
+{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per proposal.
-#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Couldn't agree more.
-#{{user|Mario jc}} Definitely should be moved.
-#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per proposal.
-#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Per all.
-#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Yeah, I don't really see what makes these so important that they need to be split from regular tornadoes. Per all.
-#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} Usually, merging tornadoes isn't a good thing... unless you're a storm chaser.
-#{{User|MarioManiac1981}} Per proposal.
 ===Oppose===
 ===Comments===