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==Separate Audio Files==
{{SettledTPP}}
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">SEPARATE 6-0</span>

This was bugging me for a while before I joined the wiki, but I think that the Wii U generation of retro courses should have their own music listed. For example, on the music drop-down box on the info-box, there would be a section for The music in the GBA version of this course as well as the music on the Wii U version. However, as other versions of other courses (I.e. 2nd/3rd versions not on the Wii U) have the same exact music as the original. So, I am proposing that the Wii U version of retro courses have their own audio file. Frankly, this one specifically needs another, better file.

'''Proposer''':{{User|Megamario15}}<br>
'''Deadline''':January 23, 2014, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|Megamario15}} Per me.
#{{User|Mario}} I have no qualms about this. Per comments below.
#{{User|Vommack}} Per all.
#{{User|Tails777}} Per all
#{{User|Andymii}} It has been remixed in ''[[Mario Kart 8]]'', and people will probably want to hear both versions of it. It is great to have as much information as possible on the Super Mario Wiki, as long as it is not superfluous; adding the remixed music is not superfluous at all.
#{{User|Kart Player 2011}} Per all.

===Oppose===

===Comments===
If this could be moved to a proposal page, I couldn't figure out how to get it there myself, though mostly because I couldn't find the page. I chose this page afterwards because to me, it is the most notable example. Thanks in advance to anybody who does that. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 16:07, 9 January 2015 (EST)
:[[MarioWiki:Proposals|This page]]? It's on the left side, under the "community" box. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:18, 9 January 2015 (EST)
::Thank you for your help. I really want to make a good difference in this wiki, and once I think of a worthwhile proposal, I will put it there.'''Edit:''' That is where I found out how to found out how to make these. Don't worry, it's not your fault, I was a little vague. I meant something like an official place to post proposals. Do you, or anyone else, know someplace like that? [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 16:32, 9 January 2015 (EST)
:::You're welcome! It can work as a main page proposal, though, since it perhaps affects a lot of pages. I don't know if I can move proposals, though, so I'm going to leave it like this. I think you'll be relieved to know though, that this is the correct spot to put a talk page proposal: in the talk pages of articles. In short, yeah, you're creating talk page proposals properly. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:44, 9 January 2015 (EST)
::::OK, thank you. Despite reading the wiki for three years before joining, I didn't spend much time in the talk pages, so I am learning that now. However, I have become accustomed to the wiki's formal style of speech and will help to preserve that. Like I said in the opening statement, this was bugging me since before I joined. Perhaps we could create a section for readers to suggest projects for us to take on. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 17:01, 9 January 2015 (EST)

I believe that this proposal is not needed. The cover (a.k.a. "remix") in the Wii U version of this game sounds drastic enough to have its own file. It's in conjunction with policy since we're supposed to, you know, cover as much as we can. What's a better way of illustrating cover versions of music than uploading their .ogg files? It's not even that difficult to implement. Just add the cover version's file right after the original version. But, there should be some line on the types of cover versions. The instrumental covers no doubt should be uploaded, but I'm more iffy on the covers of the music from, say, Mario Kart Wii since it sounds quite similar. I think Mario Kart Super Circuit covers can also be implemented as well. But, anyway, just my thoughts, and I do support your proposal. I can't think of any major flaws. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:18, 9 January 2015 (EST)
:That is exactly what I meant. I was just hoping that I worded the proposal properly. Also, thank you for formatting this properly. Perhaps I should learn how to do everything properly before I do something like this again. Also, ripping sounds is something that I do not know how to do, but for now, I will leave it to the professionals. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 16:27, 9 January 2015 (EST)
::Well, you did, don't worry about that. They were just minor fixes, that's all. Besides, you don't have to do everything exactly properly. You're still in a learning process, but with experience, stuff like this is going to just feel natural to you. I can tell you how to rip sounds. Unfortunately, though, the Wii U is not quite open to getting ripped just yet. I believe a limited number of modders, however, have access to Mario Kart 8 files, but I'm not one of them, and those people are tight-lipped on this for now. Nevertheless, you can always find some videos in Youtube that have decent quality music from Mario Kart 8. You can download the video (I use [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ Video Download Helper] for Firefox), convert it into .ogg with the help of sites like [http://www.online-convert.com/ media-convert]. Meanwhile, for things like in Mario Kart Wii, you can rip the BRSTM from the ISO, but I'm obviously not going into detail about how to get ISOs of the game. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:44, 9 January 2015 (EST)
:::Yeah, going into detail about ISOs is probably a bad idea for now. When you think that I'm ready, you can let me know how on my talk page. For now, I think I should focus on Captain Toad Treasure Tracker level creation (that is, once I am autocomfirmed). I could help a lot there (tomorrow). [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 17:01, 9 January 2015 (EST)
::::Okay, and if you need help ask me. Just to let you know, I have yet to play the game, but I can show you what the general article layout is, especially if you're new to wikis. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:27, 10 January 2015 (EST)
:::::Alright, if I have problems with that, I will notify you on your talk page. I will begin on Monday since at the time I get autoconfirmed and the right to make new pages, it will be late Sunday night (my time). I look forward to working with you. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 15:00, 10 January 2015 (EST)
::::::All righty then. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:16, 12 January 2015 (EST)

Nobody (except me) has voted on this yet. Should I withdraw? [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 08:51, 10 January 2015 (EST)
:There's a two week deadline. If your proposal doesn't garner more votes than yourself (and maybe me), it's going to get a no quorum and won't pass. You can, however, extend the proposal to another two weeks by simply creating another one and maybe next time, you can get votes. Additionally, you can't solicit votes, or go to people's talk pages and say, "hey, vote on my proposal", so that's not an option, in case you were thinking that. But no need to cancel it, just be patient. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:27, 10 January 2015 (EST)
::OK, I see. On some of the other proposals that I've seen, there is big, gray text stating that the proposer asked for it to be cancelled. Also, does that mean that I shouldn't have made a link to here from the Master Core proposal (the words 'my next one')? [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 15:00, 10 January 2015 (EST)
:::You're fine! It's okay, you just can't directly ask them, that's all. {{User:Mario/sig}} 18:37, 10 January 2015 (EST)
::::OK. You've been a big help to me. Thank you. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 18:52, 10 January 2015 (EST)
:::::You're welcome, man. Happy editing. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:16, 12 January 2015 (EST)
::::::You too. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 22:05, 12 January 2015 (EST)

==Help==

Now that my proposal is settled, I'd like to help. How would I be able to? [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 10:32, 2 February 2015 (EST)
:I realized that the answer is above. I should probably sleep sometime... sorry for the inconvenience. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 23:06, 4 February 2015 (EST)
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+{{SettledTPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|8-0|separate}}
+<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">SEPARATE 6-0</span>
 This was bugging me for a while before I joined the wiki, but I think that the Wii U generation of retro courses should have their own music listed. For example, on the music drop-down box on the info-box, there would be a section for The music in the GBA version of this course as well as the music on the Wii U version. However, as other versions of other courses (I.e. 2nd/3rd versions not on the Wii U) have the same exact music as the original. So, I am proposing that the Wii U version of retro courses have their own audio file. Frankly, this one specifically needs another, better file.
 '''Proposer''':{{User|Megamario15}}<br>
-'''Deadline''':January 23, 2015, 23:59 GMT
+'''Deadline''':January 23, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 ===Support===
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 #{{User|Andymii}} It has been remixed in ''[[Mario Kart 8]]'', and people will probably want to hear both versions of it. It is great to have as much information as possible on the Super Mario Wiki, as long as it is not superfluous; adding the remixed music is not superfluous at all.
 #{{User|Kart Player 2011}} Per all.
-#{{User|Bwburke94}} Per all. Supported for MKSC/MKDS/MK8, all of which have significantly different music from the original versions of their retro tracks.
-#{{User|Glitchy Bowser Jr.}} Per all.
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 Now that my proposal is settled, I'd like to help. How would I be able to? [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 10:32, 2 February 2015 (EST)
 :I realized that the answer is above. I should probably sleep sometime... sorry for the inconvenience. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 23:06, 4 February 2015 (EST)
-== This proposal above needs to be implemented/deleted from the proposals list ==
-The proposal above was from the winter of 2015, yet as of August 2015, is '''STILL''' on the proposals list [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Talk Page Proposals|here]], which has really been bugging me. The proposal in question is a long-term project that no one seems to be attempting. I would try to do it myself, but I don't exactly know how to rip/upload music. Unfortunately, no one seems to care about this proposal anymore; even if some effort is being made, such long-term projects shouldn't sit on the proposals list anyway. If no one comes up with a solution or objects, I'm taking it off once and for all, as I see no hope in it sitting there and being an eyesore.  --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 14:36, 4 August 2015 (EDT)
-:I could teach you how to upload music. It's simple, really. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:54, 4 August 2015 (EDT)
-::Since you already seem to have the know-how, couldn't you do it? {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
-:::If you want to take it off, take some action, help yourself, view our [[Help:Contents|help pages]] with [[Help:Media|media help]] in plain sight along with a [http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/ compendium] of ripped game music, [https://github.com/libertyernie/brawltools/releases the tool] required to convert from .brstm to .wav, and finally, [http://audacityteam.org/ the program] (in our media help page) that can convert the .wav to an .ogg format for upload to the wiki. I can't do it because it's a very time-consuming process. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 19:31, 4 August 2015 (EDT)
-::::@Time Turner: this is like saying that I have the know-how to create mods: I can do it but seriously, I don't need to add ANOTHER thing to my to-do list. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:58, 4 August 2015 (EDT)
-:::::I'll partake in this. I've got all the retro track themes as files, I can convert them to supported files and upload them. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
-::::::Thank you so much. I believe that the proposal was for the new music of retro courses, so I'm not sure if you have those files. I'll try to upload too if I can. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 20:54, 4 August 2015 (EDT)
-:::::::I've got it all covered already, thanks anyway. {{User:Tails777/sig}}