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I have a question about that one in Super Mario World. If coins are spelling a message to the player, is that really breaking the fourth wall? It's not a character who knows they're in a video game. It might just be a message from Nintendo. Anyone agree? Disagree? [[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]]. Sorry about not signing before.
I have a question about that one in Super Mario World. If coins are spelling a message to the player, is that really breaking the fourth wall? It's not a character who knows they're in a video game. It might just be a message from Nintendo. Anyone agree? Disagree? [[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]]. Sorry about not signing before.
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:Sign your comments. Also, it breaks the fourth wall still because its a message from Nintendo to the player... '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' ...yeah.
:Sign your comments. Also, it breaks the fourth wall still because its a message from Nintendo to the player... http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif ...yeah.


That counts as breaking the fourth wall? It's not just when the character does it? Oh well. Now I know.[[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]] 20:43, 9 January 2008 (EST)... wait, there's something else. I just beat the game in Super Mario World (well actually, the GBA version), and at the ending party at Yoshi's house, I'm pretty sure Princess Peach was waving to me. Has anyone else noticed this? Beacause it should be in that section, as well as the row of coins. [[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]] 07:56, 20 January 2008 (EST)
That counts as breaking the fourth wall? It's not just when the character does it? Oh well. Now I know.[[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]] 20:43, 9 January 2008 (EST)... wait, there's something else. I just beat the game in Super Mario World (well actually, the GBA version), and at the ending party at Yoshi's house, I'm pretty sure Princess Peach was waving to me. Has anyone else noticed this? Beacause it should be in that section, as well as the row of coins. [[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]] 07:56, 20 January 2008 (EST) hey in super Mario land 2 you know on the door of the castle says Mario land 2 it is not on here that means I found it I AM GOOD AT FINDING STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! p.s I am am [[rickmaster]] not you


I'm not sure, I do have the game (GBA), but I never noticed it.No, wait, I remember that '''everyone''' was waving yeah, remember that when they gather at the tree house and peach is waving and Mario and Luigi had 2 fingers up...[[File:MP3 GoldenMushroom.png]]--[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]] 12:03, 20 January 2008 (EST)[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]][[Image:PeteyPiranhafliying.gif]]
I'm not sure, I do have the game (GBA), but I never noticed it.No, wait, I remember that '''everyone''' was waving yeah, remember that when they gather at the tree house and peach is waving and Mario and Luigi had 2 fingers up...[[Image:MP3_GoldenMushroom.gif]]--[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]] 12:03, 20 January 2008 (EST)[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]][[Image:PeteyPiranhafliying.gif]]


[[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]] 20:51, 21 January 2008 (EST) Yep, that's right. But we don't know if that happens in the original-- it probably does, but I don't have the guts to put it in myself. (Go to [[Talk: Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]], and you'll see why not.)
[[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]] 20:51, 21 January 2008 (EST) Yep, that's right. But we don't know if that happens in the original-- it probably does, but I don't have the guts to put it in myself. (Go to [[Talk: Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]], and you'll see why not.)


I could do it. [[File:MP3 GoldenMushroom.png]] --[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]] 15:38, 22 January 2008 (EST)[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]][[Image:PeteyPiranhafliying.gif]]
I could do it. [[Image:MP3_GoldenMushroom.gif]] --[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]] 15:38, 22 January 2008 (EST)[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]][[Image:PeteyPiranhafliying.gif]]
Hey, in Super smash bros. melee, when a player gets smashed into the T.v. screen, does that count as a fourth wall? [[File:MP3 GoldenMushroom.png]] --[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]] 18:09, 24 January 2008 (EST)[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]] [[Image:PeteyPiranhafliying.gif]]
Hey, in Super smash bros. melee, when a player gets smashed into the T.v. screen, does that count as a fourth wall? [[Image:MP3_GoldenMushroom.gif]] --[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]] 18:09, 24 January 2008 (EST)[[User:Super mario fan|Super mario fan]] [[Image:PeteyPiranhafliying.gif]]


I guess so. (Actually, it would be breaking the fourth T.V. screen!) By the way, do we know that the Peach-waving-Mario-Luigi-two-fingers-up thing doesn't happen in the original? We'd have to ask someone who played the original. [[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]]
I guess so. (Actually, it would be breaking the fourth T.V. screen!) By the way, do we know that the Peach-waving-Mario-Luigi-two-fingers-up thing doesn't happen in the original? We'd have to ask someone who played the original. [[User:Orangeyoshi|Orangeyoshi]]
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How so? I don't see a single "possible" fourth wall breaking. [[User:Fludd|Fludd]] 18:49, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
How so? I don't see a single "possible" fourth wall breaking. [[User:Fludd|Fludd]] 18:49, 12 August 2008 (EDT)


:One of the possiblies: [[Fourth wall#Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour|Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour]]. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
:One of the possiblies: [[Fourth Wall#Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour|Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour]]. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
 
Another possible fourth wall breaking is in the early [[Luigi's Mansion]]. Are you sure [[Luigi]] is looking at the player? he could just be looking back at the door. [[File:SMB3 Smallmario.png]][[User:Mariokid|Mariokid]][[File:SMB3 Smallmario.png]] ([[User talk:Mariokid|talk]]) 22:10, 6 February 2016 (EST)
 
== Name Change? ==
== Name Change? ==


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Alright. But not today, my camera is missing. ~~Koopakoolklub
Alright. But not today, my camera is missing. ~~Koopakoolklub
===The Long Awaited===
===The Long Awaited===
[[File:Roy on a D.png|thumb|130px]]
[[File:Roy on a D.JPG|thumb|130px]]
Here. I will retake it if it's not good enough. {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 20:28, 8 March 2014 (EST)
Here. I will retake it if it's not good enough. {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 20:28, 8 March 2014 (EST)
:It definitely is. Any time you break the names or do crap with the names, that's breaking the fourth wall, certainly. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:30, 8 March 2014 (EST)
:It definitely is. Any time you break the names or do crap with the names, that's breaking the fourth wall, certainly. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:30, 8 March 2014 (EST)
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In the ending credits of the game Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Toadette break the fourth wall when Captain Toad go for the green star. She look at the screen and say "Oh no!". Maybe we put this on the article. --[[User:LudwigVon|LudwigVon]] ([[User talk:LudwigVon|talk]]) 10:10, 18 January 2015 (EST)
In the ending credits of the game Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Toadette break the fourth wall when Captain Toad go for the green star. She look at the screen and say "Oh no!". Maybe we put this on the article. --[[User:LudwigVon|LudwigVon]] ([[User talk:LudwigVon|talk]]) 10:10, 18 January 2015 (EST)
:Add it in the article then. But don't forget to use correct grammar. --[[User:Dfrthyui|Dfrthyui]] ([[User talk:Dfrthyui|talk]]) 10:14, 18 January 2015 (EST)
:Add it in the article then. But don't forget to use correct grammar. --[[User:Dfrthyui|Dfrthyui]] ([[User talk:Dfrthyui|talk]]) 10:14, 18 January 2015 (EST)
== Luigi's Mansion 2 cover? ==
[[File:LMDM box EU.jpg|thumb|200px]]
Do you reckon that the cover of Luigi's Mansion 2 breaks the fourth wall? He's peering round the strip at the edge of the box that says ''Nintendo 3DS'', and his fingers actually go right around it. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 15:28, 8 June 2017 (EDT)
== Boom Boom Boom Boom Boom ==
I just had a thought..... the talking "Peach" at the beginning of Superstar saga  and it's remake..... Isn't that kind of breaking the fourth wall? I mean the game kind of aknowledges the text boxes (as the bombs fall out of said boxes and actually explode)[[User:Pikmin theories|Pikmin theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin theories|talk]]) 17:38, 13 March 2018 (EDT)
== Looking at the screen ==
I'm thinking we should start trimming down instances of characters looking at the screen as fourth wall breaking. Two of the examples that stood out to me are victory animations where the character looks at the screen in the Mario Golf series, and Paper Mario giving a thumbs up to the screen after an excellent action in Paper Jam (note that he makes this pose in other Paper Mario games and it isn't mentioned). Basically, I just think we should use our judgment and the context a bit more in these cases. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:04, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
:Seconded, this is a problem with a lot of "trope" articles on the wiki, they attract examples with very "people sit on chairs" energy (or in this specific case, probably "the aside glance exists"). I've given thought to pruning some of these articles for that reason and have done so already in a few cases. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 04:21, May 4, 2020 (EDT)
::Thirded. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 06:28, May 4, 2020 (EDT)
I think this article should mainly stick to stuff like the "you in front of the TV" from TTYD or the cracking the screen from Superstar Saga & Dream Team. [[User:Mario Sakuraba|Mario Sakuraba]] ([[User talk:Mario Sakuraba|talk]]) 06:35, May 4, 2020 (EDT)
== Patch it in ya cowards ==
would this be counted as breaking  the fourth wall? Around the end of Origami King, after Luigi falls down the trap door Mario fell through in the begining if instead of following Peach you go to the door on the right (left leads to where Luigi's wall came from) the door will be open and Boswer says there's probably nothing on the otherside before saying patch in the rest of the castle. now unless I'm missing something, and the way he says it. it kind of seems like he's talking to the developers, telling them to update the game.[[User:Pikmin theories|Pikmin theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin theories|talk]]) 23:26, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
:([https://youtu.be/UVofL-S9Sh4?t=176 The quote in question]) I think so since it wouldn't make as much sense in-universe. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:26, July 27, 2020 (EDT)
== Possible Move? ==
I think this page should be moved to "List of fourth wall breaks". Do you think so?{{unsigned|Mariofan28047}}
:That may be the main purpose of this article, although considering that it also explains what the fourth wall is in the intro, I think it would be better to leave it as is. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:35, February 13, 2024 (EST)
::I agree with a move. It's a more helpful name for the article, as this article is pretty much a descriptive list. {{User:Somethingone/sig}} 17:23, February 14, 2024 (EST)

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