Editing Talk:Flower (Super Mario RPG)

Was the Flower in SML called a "Superball Flower" or just "Flower"? -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

:The manual calls it "Flower". --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 19:58, 20 January 2007 (EST)

::Thanks. The SML info should probably be moved higher up in the article. It is significant enough to be the first type of Flower discussed. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

:::That's true... Consider it done! --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 13:51, 21 January 2007 (EST)
==Superball Flower article==
I think the Superball Flower should have its own article as oppose to having this article. The reason is because the Superball flower is an actual powerup.  John Roberts

:I agree. Why not make a [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Talk Page Proposals|TPP]]?

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 15:56, 14 November 2012 (EST)

I just made one.  John Roberts 17:11, 21 December 2012 (EST)
===Superball Flower article===
{{SettledTPP}}
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">SPLIT 8-0</span>

Superball Flower is actually named unlike the flowers from other games. They also powerup Mario. If you ask me, that sounds like something that needs its own article.

'''Proposer''': {{User|JohnRoberts}}<br>
'''Deadline''':  January 5, 2013, 23:59 GMT 

====Support====
#{{User|JohnRoberts}} Superball Flower is actually named unlike the flowers from other games. They also powerup Mario.
#{{User|Pokémon Trainer Red}} Per JR
#{{User|YoshiKong}} Per proposal. The [[Flower]] article is mainly a "main hub" for the generic Flower and their appearances. All other Flowers which have a unique name are given their own article, such as [[Fire Flower]] and [[Power Flower]].
#{{User|BowserJunior}} Per all.  The Flowers from the YI games are collectible items.  The Flower from SML is a power-up.
#{{User|SuperFireBowserJr.}} Superball Flower is an actual power-up in SML. The YI ones don't really power Yoshi up. That's like saying Fire Flower needs to be merged here.
#{{User|Bowser45}}Per JohnRoberts
#{{User|Aokage}}Per SuperFireBowserJr.
#{{User|MegaKoopa}}Per all.

====Oppose====

====Comments====
Is it actually called "Superball Flower"?  If not, we should call it Flower (Super Mario Land). {{User|BowserJunior}}
It says so in the article. {{User|KoopaGuy}}
:The manual accessible from the Home menu after downloading the game from the eShop refers to it as simply a Flower, which I think is why it was included in this article in the first place. {{User|Mario4Ever}} 
::Either way, it should still have its own article because it actually affects the gameplay. {{User|KoopaGuy}}
::Oh, I forgot to mention one thing. If super balls have an article, then the super ball flower should have one, too.

-signed {{User|KoopaGuy}} aka  John Roberts 16:27, 4 January 2013 (EST)

==Creating Superball Flower==
Well, the proposal has been settled. Soon, [[Superball Flower]] will have its own article. However, the only problem is that the Superball Flower redirects to this article. Perhaps we need to ask a System Operator to fix the situation. -signed {{User|KoopaGuy}} aka  John Roberts 16:02, 9 January 2013 (EST)

:No, we don't.  The redirect can still be accessed and edited to include the information.  But we won't do that.  Once again, We should call it [[Flower (Super Mario 3D Land)]]. >_<--[[File:EmblemMasterJr.png|35px|link=Bowser Junior]] [[User:BowserJunior|Bowser]][[User Talk:BowserJunior|Junior]] [http://youtube.com/watch?v=smfAA6NN5Cs RULES!] 23:34, 9 January 2013 (EST)

Actually, it's [[Flower (Super Mario Land)]].  {{Unsigned|KoopaGuy}}

:<nowiki>*Facepalm*</nowiki> Anyways, you get what I mean.--[[File:EmblemMasterJr.png|35px|link=Bowser Junior]] [[User:BowserJunior|Bowser]][[User Talk:BowserJunior|Junior]] [http://youtube.com/watch?v=smfAA6NN5Cs RULES!] 20:43, 11 January 2013 (EST)

==TPP: Split this page into two separate articles==
{{TPP}}
As of ''Yoshi's New Island'', the flower collectibles from the Yoshi games will be getting distinctive names.  On the [http://yoshisnewisland.nintendo.com/ the official site for the upcoming game], click on "The New Island" and go to "Get the Goods".  You'll see on that page, clear as day, that those flowers are now officially called '''Smiley Flowers'''.  

Obviously, now that it has a non-generic name, the Yoshi item would get a page all for itself... but what do we do about the leftover information detailing the generic unnamed flowers from ''Super Mario RPG'' that replenish your FP?

I think the best course of action would be to split this page into two new ones: one that's all about the ''Yoshi's Island'' item (under the aforementioned new name), and another that acts as a catch-all article for flowers that aren't power ups or special collectibles (i.e., the FP-restoring flowers from ''Super Mario RPG'' and ''Paper Mario''), just like how [[Mushroom]] contains information about generic mushrooms that don't power-up Mario (i.e., the HP-restoring mushrooms from the RPGs).

'''Proposer''': {{User|Whybee}}<br>
'''Deadline''': March 17, 2014, 23:59 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|[Whybee]}} The Yoshi's Island flowers need their own pages since they have actual names now.  The non-power-up flowers should be lumped together in their own page  since they don't have any special names.

====Oppose====

====Comments====
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 I just made one.  John Roberts 17:11, 21 December 2012 (EST)
 ===Superball Flower article===
-{{settled TPP}}
+{{SettledTPP}}
-{{proposal outcome|green|split 8-0}}
+<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">SPLIT 8-0</span>
 Superball Flower is actually named unlike the flowers from other games. They also powerup Mario. If you ask me, that sounds like something that needs its own article.
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 Well, the proposal has been settled. Soon, [[Superball Flower]] will have its own article. However, the only problem is that the Superball Flower redirects to this article. Perhaps we need to ask a System Operator to fix the situation. -signed {{User|KoopaGuy}} aka  John Roberts 16:02, 9 January 2013 (EST)
-:No, we don't.  The redirect can still be accessed and edited to include the information.  But we won't do that.  Once again, We should call it [[Flower (Super Mario 3D Land)]]. >_<--[[File:MKT Icon BowserJr.png|35px|link=Bowser Junior]] [[User:BowserJunior|Bowser]][[User Talk:BowserJunior|Junior]] [http://youtube.com/watch?v=smfAA6NN5Cs RULES!] 23:34, 9 January 2013 (EST)
+:No, we don't.  The redirect can still be accessed and edited to include the information.  But we won't do that.  Once again, We should call it [[Flower (Super Mario 3D Land)]]. >_<--[[File:EmblemMasterJr.png|35px|link=Bowser Junior]] [[User:BowserJunior|Bowser]][[User Talk:BowserJunior|Junior]] [http://youtube.com/watch?v=smfAA6NN5Cs RULES!] 23:34, 9 January 2013 (EST)
 Actually, it's [[Flower (Super Mario Land)]].  {{Unsigned|KoopaGuy}}
-:<nowiki>*Facepalm*</nowiki> Anyways, you get what I mean.--[[File:MKT Icon BowserJr.png|35px|link=Bowser Junior]] [[User:BowserJunior|Bowser]][[User Talk:BowserJunior|Junior]] [http://youtube.com/watch?v=smfAA6NN5Cs RULES!] 20:43, 11 January 2013 (EST)
+:<nowiki>*Facepalm*</nowiki> Anyways, you get what I mean.--[[File:EmblemMasterJr.png|35px|link=Bowser Junior]] [[User:BowserJunior|Bowser]][[User Talk:BowserJunior|Junior]] [http://youtube.com/watch?v=smfAA6NN5Cs RULES!] 20:43, 11 January 2013 (EST)
 ==TPP: Split this page into two separate articles==
-{{settled TPP}}
+{{TPP}}
-{{proposal outcome|green|passed 6-0}}
 As of ''Yoshi's New Island'', the flower collectibles from the Yoshi games will be getting distinctive names.  On the [http://yoshisnewisland.nintendo.com/ the official site for the upcoming game], click on "The New Island" and go to "Get the Goods".  You'll see on that page, clear as day, that those flowers are now officially called '''Smiley Flowers'''.
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 ====Support====
-#{{User|Whybee}} The Yoshi's Island flowers need their own pages since they have actual names now.  The non-power-up flowers should be lumped together in their own page  since they don't have any special names.
+#{{User|[Whybee]}} The Yoshi's Island flowers need their own pages since they have actual names now.  The non-power-up flowers should be lumped together in their own page  since they don't have any special names.
-#{{User|Coooool123}} While normally I hate creating more pages, this seems like a viable thing to do! These are two very different things that shouldn't be stuck together as they have no similarities other than name. Per proposal.
-#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per proposal.
-#{{User|World10}} Sure, per all.
-#{{User|MegaKoopa}} Yeah, per all.
-#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per all.
 ====Oppose====
 ====Comments====
-I'd support moving ''Yoshi's Island'' information from this page to "Smiley Flower" while renaming "Flower" to "Flower (SMRPG-related crap)" for any ''Super Mario RPG''-related information. Finally, the rest can go into [[Flower (disambiguation)|disambiguation pages]] or into their respective articles. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:07, 3 March 2014 (EST)