Editing Talk:Flipswitch Galaxy

==In Super Mario Galaxy, merge mission articles from single-star galaxies into the galaxy articles==

{{TPP}}
(My first proposal, I hope I'm doing everything right...)<br>
I was thinking about proposing this since there's a lot of repeated content in the mission articles, and I don't think they need to exist when there's only one mission to cover anyway. The galaxy articles can cover everything on their own. If this passes, links leading to the missions will redirect to the galaxy they're a part of. The affected articles would include the following:
*[[Surfing 101]] into [[Loopdeeloop Galaxy]]
*[[Painting the Planet Yellow]] into [[Flipswitch Galaxy]]
*[[Megaleg's Moon]] into [[Bowser Jr.'s Robot Reactor]]
*[[Rocky Road (mission)]] into [[Sweet Sweet Galaxy]]
*[[Rolling in the Clouds]] into [[Rolling Green Galaxy]]
*[[Shrinking Satellite]] into [[Hurry-Scurry Galaxy]]
*[[The Fiery Stronghold]] into [[Bowser's Star Reactor]]
*[[A Very Sticky Situation]] into [[Sling Pod Galaxy]]
*[[Through the Poison Swamp]] into [[Bubble Breeze Galaxy]]
*[[Sinking the Airships]] into [[Bowser Jr.'s Airship Armada]]
*[[Giant Eel Outbreak]] into [[Drip Drop Galaxy]]
*[[Scaling the Sticky Wall]] into [[Honeyclimb Galaxy]]
*[[Darkness on the Horizon]] into [[Bowser's Star Reactor]]
*[[Bigmouth's Gold Bait]] into [[Bigmouth Galaxy]]
*[[Kingfin's Fearsome Waters]] into [[Bonefin Galaxy]]
*[[King Kaliente's Spicy Return]] into [[Bowser Jr.'s Lava Reactor]]
*[[Choosing a Favorite Snack]] into [[Sand Spiral Galaxy]]
*[[Watch Your Step (mission)]] into [[Matter Splatter Galaxy]]
*[[Star Bunnies in the Snow]] into [[Snow Cap Galaxy]]
*[[The Fate of the Universe]] into [[Bowser's Galaxy Reactor]]
*[[Racing the Spooky Speedster]] into [[Boo's Boneyard Galaxy]]
*[[Gizmos, Gears, and Gadgets]] into [[Rolling Gizmo Galaxy]]
*[[The Electric Labyrinth]] into [[Bubble Blast Galaxy]]
*[[The Galaxy's Greatest Wave]] into [[Loopdeeswoop Galaxy]]
*[[The Star Festival]] into [[Grand Finale Galaxy]]

Note that [[Buoy Base Galaxy]] and [[Gateway Galaxy]] are excluded because they have two missions each.

'''Proposer''': {{User|ViableBunnyBudd}}<br>
'''Deadline''': September 2, 2024, 23:59 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|ViableBunnyBudd}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Somethingone}} This is similar to what we do with the locations in ''[[Super Paper Mario]]'', so sure. Per proposal.
#{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Per proposer and Somethingone.

====Oppose====
#{{User|Scrooge200}} The galaxy articles describe the world design more generally, while the level articles focus more on the specific things Mario or Luigi has to do to complete them. I think merging the individual missions would just come off as messy and inconsistent.
#{{User|DryBonesBandit}} It would seem inconsistent to me if the single missions were merged into the articles for the galaxies while the multiple missions from other galaxies stayed separate.
#{{User|Hewer}} Per all, this would just create an unnecessary inconsistency.
#{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} Should we do the same thing for Super Mario 64, then?
#{{User|Nightwicked Bowser}} Per all
#{{User|Nintendo101}} Per all.
#[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) - This is a slippery slope I am ''not'' interested in going down. Per Scrooge and DBB.
#{{User|Sparks}}Per all.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Per all, especially PrincessPeachFan; this would only make sense if we started doing this for other similar areas in other games, which we don't exactly see changing anytime soon.
#{{User|Tails777}} Per all.
#{{User|Sdman213}} Per all.

====Comments====
To be honest, I generally think missions in the ''Super Mario'' platforming games would do better merged into their course pages, because often a player will play several missions on the same course at a time. Also, this way, the layout guides are there for easy reference without having to click between articles. And summaries of the missions can go on the game pages instead. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 07:33, August 18, 2024 (EDT)

So, what about the single star missions from [[Super Mario 64]]? Should we merge those too? [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 08:20, August 18, 2024 (EDT)
:I'd support that. Read my above comment. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 08:23, August 18, 2024 (EDT)
:Those missions don't have an in-game name or a selection menu (unlike these), as such they are not split in the first place. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:34, August 18, 2024 (EDT)

{{User|Super Mario RPG}}, personally, I think missions/episodes/objectives are distinct enough to benefit from dedicated article coverage, especially considering the open design of the hakoniwa 3D games ensures missions are often completed in different ways and the goal is often in completely different areas. Different parts of levels open up or close based on the framing of the missions. Different enemies often appear. Maybe a 3D level article can be written that comfortably includes all mission information in it, but I would want to see an example drafted first before supporting a revision like that. I really do not like how Green Stars are covered in the SMG2 Galaxy articles, for sn analogous example. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 12:18, August 18, 2024 (EDT)
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 ==In Super Mario Galaxy, merge mission articles from single-star galaxies into the galaxy articles==
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-{{Proposal outcome|failed|3-15|Do not merge mission articles from single-star galaxies into the galaxy articles}}
 (My first proposal, I hope I'm doing everything right...)<br>
 I was thinking about proposing this since there's a lot of repeated content in the mission articles, and I don't think they need to exist when there's only one mission to cover anyway. The galaxy articles can cover everything on their own. If this passes, links leading to the missions will redirect to the galaxy they're a part of. The affected articles would include the following:
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 #{{User|Tails777}} Per all.
 #{{User|Sdman213}} Per all.
-#{{User|YoYo}} Per all
-#{{User|ExoRosalina}} If this happens, the missions page section would messed up like that? It is so extremely incosistent like PrincessPeachFan said.
-#{{User|SeanWheeler}} Per all.
-#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per all.
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 {{User|Super Mario RPG}}, personally, I think missions/episodes/objectives are distinct enough to benefit from dedicated article coverage, especially considering the open design of the hakoniwa 3D games ensures missions are often completed in different ways and the goal is often in completely different areas. Different parts of levels open up or close based on the framing of the missions. Different enemies often appear. Maybe a 3D level article can be written that comfortably includes all mission information in it, but I would want to see an example drafted first before supporting a revision like that. I really do not like how Green Stars are covered in the SMG2 Galaxy articles, for sn analogous example. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 12:18, August 18, 2024 (EDT)
-This sort of proposal, one that affects multiple pages, not just Flipswitch Galaxy, should be on [[MarioWiki:Proposals]]. Additionally, when it's archived, it's more easily found. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:50, August 19, 2024 (EDT)
-Upon further consideration... this proposal was probably a bad call. I didn't think about some of the points that were brought up. I'd be willing to call this one off. [[User:ViableBunnyBudd|ViableBunnyBudd]] ([[User talk:ViableBunnyBudd|talk]]) 02:55, August 20, 2024 (EDT)