Editing Talk:Fish (Balloon Fight)

== Fish ==

Why is this page's title "Fish '''(Balloon Fight)'''", though there is even no article named "[[Fish]]"? In my opinion, this can be moved to "Fish". And the name isn't pure conjecture, the fish has always just been known as "fish" (source: ''Balloon Fight'' manual). --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 10:36, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
:There once was an article named "Fish", but it got deleted. Looks like this article should be moved indeed. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 18:44, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

==Merge Fish (Balloon Fight) with Summit==
{{TPP}}
The Fish from ''Balloon Fight'' is only a stage element, just like the Ultimate Chimera and Kraid.  I see no reason for it to have its own article, since it's not even a Mario Universe character.  Basically, merge it to the [[Summit]] stage.

'''Proposer''': {{User|M&SG}}<br>
'''Deadline''': May 17, 2011, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|M&SG}} - Per my proposal.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Tails777}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Magikrazy51}} Per M&SG and myself (because of my Whispy Woods proposal).
#{{User|Zero777}} Per [previous] proposals.
#{{User|Reddragon19k}} Merge it! Per all.

===Oppose===
#{{User|yoshiyoshiyoshi}} It isnt just a stage hazard in brawl.It also appears in wario ware.It's also not a stub.
#{{User|Bop1996}} There have been 3 proposals now concerning this type of merge. In the [[Talk:Ultimate Chimera|Ultimate Chimera]] merge, there was no other appearance whatsoever aside from as a stage hazard. In the [[Talk:Whispy Woods|Whispy Woods]] proposal, there is an appearance in a Club Nintendo comic by the Whispy Woods with lines and everything, and that would not work well (imo) on a stage article. In the [[Talk:Kraid|Kraid]] proposal, there is trophy information and an appearance in Nintendo Monopoly, but Mario4Ever pointed out a way to integrate that without making the article look bad. In this case, the appearance in the WarioWare games would be hard to integrate in a pleasing way into a stage article, so I am opposing it. It's not based on appearance as a stage hazard, it's based on what other information is in the article.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per Bop1996.
#{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}} - Per Bob1996

===Comments===
But it also appears in the Wario Ware games right {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

We should just merge all minor stage hazards like this one with the stages they appear in. {{User|Tails777}}

Why that makes about as much sense as merging all minor npcs with the location they appeared in
{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:@Goomba's Shoe15 Concerning the WarioWare information, it will most likely be incorporated into the stage article in a similar fashion to the incorporation of Kraid's cameo in Nintendo Monopoly into Brinstar Depths (see [[Talk:Kraid|here]]). {{User|Mario4Ever}}

@Magikrazy51 your proposal didnt pass because when you archived it the tally was 10-8 which is only a margain of two votes however, rule 6 states If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week. 
{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:A little late for that, n'est-ce pas? {{User|Mario4Ever}}

I would of asked sooner but i figured that either the rule meant that if each side had more than 10 votes or that talk pae proposals were exempt from the rule neither of which is true 
{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

But that's not right because the micro games take place at open sea not the stage also we don't have bulborbs merged with Distant planet 
{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

The deadline was wrong: this was proposed on May 3, and so it ends 2 weeks later on the 17th. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 15:15, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
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 == Fish ==
-Why is this page's title "Fish '''(Balloon Fight)'''", though there is even no article named "{{fake link|Fish}}"? In my opinion, this can be moved to "Fish". And the name isn't pure conjecture, the fish has always just been known as "fish" (source: ''Balloon Fight'' manual). --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 10:36, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
+Why is this page's title "Fish '''(Balloon Fight)'''", though there is even no article named "[[Fish]]"? In my opinion, this can be moved to "Fish". And the name isn't pure conjecture, the fish has always just been known as "fish" (source: ''Balloon Fight'' manual). --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 10:36, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
 :There once was an article named "Fish", but it got deleted. Looks like this article should be moved indeed. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 18:44, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
 ==Merge Fish (Balloon Fight) with Summit==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|red|don't merge 4-10}}
 The Fish from ''Balloon Fight'' is only a stage element, just like the Ultimate Chimera and Kraid.  I see no reason for it to have its own article, since it's not even a Mario Universe character.  Basically, merge it to the [[Summit]] stage.
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 ===Support===
 #{{User|M&SG}} - Per my proposal.
+#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per proposal.
 #{{User|Tails777}} Per proposal.
 #{{User|Magikrazy51}} Per M&SG and myself (because of my Whispy Woods proposal).
 #{{User|Zero777}} Per [previous] proposals.
+#{{User|Reddragon19k}} Merge it! Per all.
 ===Oppose===
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 #{{User|Bop1996}} There have been 3 proposals now concerning this type of merge. In the [[Talk:Ultimate Chimera|Ultimate Chimera]] merge, there was no other appearance whatsoever aside from as a stage hazard. In the [[Talk:Whispy Woods|Whispy Woods]] proposal, there is an appearance in a Club Nintendo comic by the Whispy Woods with lines and everything, and that would not work well (imo) on a stage article. In the [[Talk:Kraid|Kraid]] proposal, there is trophy information and an appearance in Nintendo Monopoly, but Mario4Ever pointed out a way to integrate that without making the article look bad. In this case, the appearance in the WarioWare games would be hard to integrate in a pleasing way into a stage article, so I am opposing it. It's not based on appearance as a stage hazard, it's based on what other information is in the article.
 #{{User|Walkazo}} - Per Bop1996.
-#{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}} - Per Bop1996
+#{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}} - Per Bob1996
-#{{User|UltraMario3000}} Per Bop.
-#{{User|kirby9612}}If this is merged,the fish article will be ''extinct''.
-#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} The Fish appeared in other Mario-related stuff. Other stage hazards only appeared in the Super Smash Bros. series in terms of relevance to Mario. So, Bop1996 basically stated everything for me.
-#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per Bop1996.
-#{{User|Reddragon19k}} Per all.
-#{{User|Superfiremario}} Per Kirby9612
 ===Comments===
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 The deadline was wrong: this was proposed on May 3, and so it ends 2 weeks later on the 17th. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 15:15, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
-@Kirby9612 That isn't a good reason. {{user:Mario jc/sig}}
-==Merge this article to [[Summit]]==
-{{settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|green|merge to summit 6-3}}
-[[King Bulblin]], [[Lord Bullbo]], [[Tingle]], [[Parasite Queen]], [[Ultimate Chimera]], [[Metal Gear RAY]], [[Bulborb]], and others have all been merged to the stages they appear in because they are simply nothing but stage hazards. No, those appearances in the microgames do not let it keep its article status. One, they're essentially blink-and-you'll-miss-it appearances, i.e., it's simply too minor and too insignificant to warrant keeping the article. Two, [[Tingle]] and [[Bulborb]] have both appeared in microgames, and yet they've both been merged. Granted, Tingle was merged sans proposal, but Bulborb had one.
-'''Proposer''': {{User|GreenDisaster}}<br>
-'''Deadline''': October 26, 2012, 23:59 GMT
-===Merge===
-#{{User|GreenDisaster}} Per proposal.
-#{{User|Tails777}} Per proposal again.
-#{{User|Zero777}} Per proposal
-#{{User|1337star}} Per proposal/all. We don't have pages on characters that only appear in microgames, and we don't have pages on characters that only appear as stage hazards. Why should being both make it any more worthy?
-#{{User|Coooool123}} Per all. Plus, half the info is already on summit anyway.
-#{{User|Vommack}} Per all.
-===Don't Merge===
-#{{User|Raven Effect}} Per my original opposition.
-#{{User|Yoshi K}} Per all opposes above.
-#{{User|Bop1996}} Per my original opposition as well as my comment below.
-===Comments===
-The bulk of the opposes on the former proposal were due to it appearing in the WarioWare games. However, as I pointed out, Tingle and Bulborb, despite also appearing in the WarioWare games, are currently merged. Wouldn't it be consistent to merge this article too? [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] ([[User talk:GreenDisaster|talk]]) 12:05, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
-:I would rather see the standard made to be that if a Super Smash Bros. stage hazard has secondary appearances in a full-fledged Mario game, then it gets an article. If there is no appearance like that, then we can merge it without trouble. {{User:Bop1996/sig}}
-::If you think that should be the standard, you should make a proposal on it. Right now though, this is the standard. --[[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 18:04, 21 October 2012 (EDT)