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| == Merge with Nintendo Entertainment System? == | | == Merge with Nintendo Entertainment System? == |
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| I've been thinking about it for a while, and I really can't think of any good reason why this is split from the [[NES]] article. The Famicom is just the Japanese version of the NES with a different design. The only exclusive game (not including the [[Famicom Disk System]] or the [[Family Basic]]) is ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. + Jr. Sansū Lesson]]'', which is basically a port of ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. (game)|Donkey Kong Jr.]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. Math]]'' on one cartridge. If anything, the Super Famicom has more exclusive games, with it having five exclusive games over one. I don't think the fact it has ''one'' exclusive game and the fact it looks different from the overseas NES justifies it to have its own article. | | I've been thinking about it for a while, and I really can't think of any good reason why this is split from the [[NES]] article. The Famicom is just the Japanese version of the NES with a different design. The only exclusive game (not including the [[Famicom Disk System]] or the [[Family Basic]]) is ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. + Jr. Sansū Lesson]]'', which is basically a port of ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. (game)|Donkey Kong Jr.]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. Math]]'' on one cartridge. If anything, the Super Famicom has more exclusive games, with it having five exclusive games over one. I don't think the fact it has ''one'' exclusive game and the fact it looks different from the overseas NES justifies it to have its own article. |
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| ===Support=== | | ===Support=== |
| #{{User|Starluxe}} Per proposal | | #{{User|Starluxe}} Per proposal |
| #{{User|Aomaf}} yes
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| #{{User|Camwoodstock}} We're not particularly fans of this idea. Both since the Famicom is already historically significant, but also, this feels a lot like "simplification for simplification's sake", when no, it is actually worth noting that the Famicom and the NES are in fact different consoles! In addition, this seems to be based on the assumption there is only one Famicom-Exclusive game, when if you consider the Famicom Disk System (which [[Family Computer Disk System|has its own article!]]), we have [[All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros.]], [[Famicom Grand Prix: F1 Race]], [[Famicom Grand Prix II: 3D Hot Rally]], [[I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater]], [[Golf: Japan Course]], [[Golf: U.S. Course]], and [[Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic]]. If anything, we figure a merge for the Disk System article and this article is in order, because the Disk System is very directly an accessory to the Famicom itself; having the Disk System article but not the Famicom article would make about as much sense as having the article on the [[Nintendo 64DD]] without an article on the [[Nintendo 64]].
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| #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - for all intents and purposes, this is a different system with different hardware and a totally different appearance and compatibility. The similarities begin and end at running the same basic software format, but even then, there are differences between them. Contrast that with the SFC/SNES, where the only differences were the American release had purple buttons and the western releases have a stick of plastic in the cartridge hole as a pathetic region-locking mechanism. "Exclusive games" have nothing to do with this.
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| #{{User|Pizza Master}} Per all.
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| #{{User|EvieMaybe}} per camwoodstock and per [https://youtu.be/orb6qTEAkJQ Akfamilyhome's video on the topic]
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| #{{User|Technetium}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Killer Moth}} Per all.
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| ===Comments=== | | ===Comments=== |
| {{@|Camwoodstock}} About your statement; we have an article on the [[Satellaview]], an accessory to the Super Famicom, but we don't have a page specifically on the Super Famicom, your point is? Also, the Nintendo 64 ''is'' its own unique Nintendo console, unlike the Famicom which is just the Japanese variant if the NES. {{User:Starluxe/sig}} 11:15, October 14, 2024 (EDT)
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| :We know there isn't a Super Famicom article, and to be honest, if this proposal fails, we don't see the harm in trying to make a proposal to create a Super Famicom article, for the same logic as keeping this article. As for the N64 thing, that was just the best example that came to mind of an accessory that had fully-released games exclusively made for it; sure, the Satellaview had games in the form of broadcasts, but like, the 64DD had fully-released, physical games to it, which is closer to what the Disk System has. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 15:30, October 14, 2024 (EDT)
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