Editing Talk:Empty Block

Is this even considered official? :| {{User:RAP/sig}} [[Special:Contributions/RAP|That name sounds pretty unofficial to the wiki... :|]]
:No. That's why I put the "conjecture" template on it. I was gonna request a deletion, but... {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 21:57, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

I for one feel this page is unnecessary. Any other opinions? {{User:Phoenix Rider/sig}} 03:58, 17 August 2009 (EDT)
:I think it's fine. Those Blocks are common gameplay elements in the ''Mario'' series. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 07:15, 17 August 2009 (EDT)

== Refill ==
Anyway, does used block is refillable? {{unsigned|FayyazMurmur}}
:Has Nintendo ever addressed the issue? If not, then we need not worry about reporting it on the article. {{User:Super Mario Bros./sig}} 23:54, 15 May 2010 (EDT)

== Another Name ==
"Used Block" is fine, but I think "Empty Block" would be better, since say that the block is empty is more understandable than say that it is used. {{User:Ultra Koopa/Sig}} 12:16, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:I can see what you are saying here, actually. Since not all Used Blocks have been 'used' by Mario/Luigi before getting to this phrase, 'Empty Block' makes more sense in context. Don't rename it yet, though, because some people may disagree with you. {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} 12:58, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::These types of article names are on a first come first serve basis {{User|Raven Effect}}
:::I see. Thanks for telling me so that I won't make the mistake of making a similar comment next time I see something similar. {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} 13:07, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::I didn't understand. {{User:Ultra Koopa/Sig}} 19:39, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
I think what Raven Effect said was that once there is one article name, it should stay like that (I don't necessarily agree with that statement.) {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 19:42, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Thanks :) (But I still think Empty Block sounds better).
::And I can't even do a proposal, right? {{User:Ultra Koopa/Sig}} 17:07, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
:::It's generally frowned upon since neither name is official {{User|Raven Effect}}
==Official Name Found==
{{Talk}}
In the Super Mario Galaxy manual, page 10 (see the pdf [http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/gameslist/manuals/Wii_Super_Mario_Galaxy.pdf here] ), the official name of this block is "Block". Should we change the name of the page ? Block is a very "large" word, but it's the only official name found so far, so... 
PS : The SMG2 manual, page 11 ([http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/gameslist/manuals/Wii_Super_Mario_Galaxy2_Eng.pdf see here]) also call this block "Block" [[User:Banon|Banon]] ([[User talk:Banon|talk]]) 18:00, 31 October 2012 (EDT) 
EDIT : I also checked the SMB, SMB3, SMW, SML, NSMB, NSMBW, SM3DL (not the NSMB2 or the Lost Levels) manuals and its name is not mentionned, but sometimes, under the list of the blocks or other stuff like this there is written something like "There are others surprises to discover", inclunding the empty block. [[User:Banon|Banon]] ([[User talk:Banon|talk]]) 18:26, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
:I read through the manual and I din't see the word mentioned on either page you referred to. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}
::This is a screenshot of the page 10 of the SMG manual : [http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2949/blocklso.png image] [[User:Banon|Banon]] ([[User talk:Banon|talk]]) 03:52, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
:::That's not page 10 that's page 18. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}
::::Sorry. That was the page 10 of the pdf, where one page is two pages of the paper version. Anyway, should we rename the page ?
:::::I don't know since we already have a page on blocks which covers all blocks that is called block. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}
::::::I agree, but an official name, even ambiguous, is better than a conjectural name, no ? I don't know what to do. We could rename this page "Block (type)" and the current page to "Block (category)". But the problem is that it is not a category. [[User:Banon|Banon]] ([[User talk:Banon|talk]]) 04:19, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
:::::::One possible solution if we rename this is to make this "Block" and make [[Block|this]] "Blocks", with the proper templates to avoid confusion and such. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User talk:1337star|Mailbox SP]])</sup> 11:51, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
::::::::I think that it would be perfect, but does it exist a rule which forbid the plural in the title ? I have a doubt. EDIT : Forget this sentence, we totally can ([[Bosses]] [[Ennemies]] [[Allies]] [[Species]]) {{User:Banon/sig}}

Are you sure that's the latest name? If you can find a newer one use that instead! [[User:Kelton2|Kelton2: Your neighborhood wiki helper.]] ([[User talk:Kelton2|talk]]) 08:14, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:The three last games where [[Question Block]] appear are : Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario 3D Land and New Super Mario Bros. 2. I checked the SMG2 manual : it is written "Block". In the SM3DL, they don't say its name. I haven't checked the NSMB2 manual. {{User:Banon/sig}} 06:36, 7 November 2012 (EST)

::I own both of thes guides, and they call them "blocks". I read another guide and it called them "regular blocks". {{User:Pokémon Trainer Red/sig}} 13:17, 20 November 2012 (EST)

'''How about''' we put a {{tem|distinguish}} on [[Block]] and a {{tem|Diff}} on [[Used Block]]. That way, there is less confusion between the two "Blocks" and we still give attribution for the official name. 

{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 01:28, 2 December 2012 (EST)
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 :::It's generally frowned upon since neither name is official {{User|Raven Effect}}
 ==Official Name Found==
+{{Talk}}
 In the Super Mario Galaxy manual, page 10 (see the pdf [http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/gameslist/manuals/Wii_Super_Mario_Galaxy.pdf here] ), the official name of this block is "Block". Should we change the name of the page ? Block is a very "large" word, but it's the only official name found so far, so...
 PS : The SMG2 manual, page 11 ([http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/gameslist/manuals/Wii_Super_Mario_Galaxy2_Eng.pdf see here]) also call this block "Block" [[User:Banon|Banon]] ([[User talk:Banon|talk]]) 18:00, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
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 ::::::I agree, but an official name, even ambiguous, is better than a conjectural name, no ? I don't know what to do. We could rename this page "Block (type)" and the current page to "Block (category)". But the problem is that it is not a category. [[User:Banon|Banon]] ([[User talk:Banon|talk]]) 04:19, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
 :::::::One possible solution if we rename this is to make this "Block" and make [[Block|this]] "Blocks", with the proper templates to avoid confusion and such. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User talk:1337star|Mailbox SP]])</sup> 11:51, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
-::::::::I think that it would be perfect, but does it exist a rule which forbid the plural in the title ? I have a doubt. EDIT : Forget this sentence, we totally can ([[List of bosses|Bosses]] [[Ennemies]] [[List of allies|Allies]] [[List of species|Species]]) {{User:Banon/sig}}
+::::::::I think that it would be perfect, but does it exist a rule which forbid the plural in the title ? I have a doubt. EDIT : Forget this sentence, we totally can ([[Bosses]] [[Ennemies]] [[Allies]] [[Species]]) {{User:Banon/sig}}
 Are you sure that's the latest name? If you can find a newer one use that instead! [[User:Kelton2|Kelton2: Your neighborhood wiki helper.]] ([[User talk:Kelton2|talk]]) 08:14, 5 November 2012 (EST)
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 ::I own both of thes guides, and they call them "blocks". I read another guide and it called them "regular blocks". {{User:Pokémon Trainer Red/sig}} 13:17, 20 November 2012 (EST)
-:::Which guide call them "regular blocks" ? {{User:Banon/sig}}
 '''How about''' we put a {{tem|distinguish}} on [[Block]] and a {{tem|Diff}} on [[Used Block]]. That way, there is less confusion between the two "Blocks" and we still give attribution for the official name.
 {{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 01:28, 2 December 2012 (EST)
-::That would be better than the current situation. But why not add brackets ? This article should not be named Used Block, because an official name has been found. Why not : Block (type) or Block (category) or Block (general) with a {{tem|distinguish}} and Block (Question Block) or Block (Used Block) or Block (Used Question Block) with a {{tem|distinguish}}. It may sound confusing, but... {{User:Banon/sig}}
-How about renaming the page "Block (used)" Still official, yet distinguishing.
-{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 18:42, 11 December 2012 (EST)
-:Yes, that's true and I totally agree with you. But wouldn't it be "better" if we'd rename it "Block (used block" ? After all, it may be redundant ! Can we rename the page "Block (used)" now ? {{User:Banon/sig}} 13:02, 13 December 2012 (EST)
-Yep, go ahead and rename it. Remember to remove the {{tem|Conjecture}} template and update as many words and links as you can. I'll help you out if you want.
-{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 16:23, 13 December 2012 (EST)
-:Ok, I did it, but now I have to edit [[:Special:WhatLinksHere/Used_Block|all those pages]]. But, for an unknown reason, every page that has "Block" in its title and "used" in its article is listed here... {{User:Banon/sig}} 16:53, 13 December 2012 (EST)
-That would be because all those pages were being linked via [[Template:Blocks]]. I updated the link there, so that got rid of a few.
-{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 02:18, 14 December 2012 (EST)
-== "Used" ==
-It's found in some games, such as [[Super Mario Land]], completely empty by default. Thus, this should be "Block (empty)", as "used" could be misleading. {{User:Misty/sig}} 16:55, 13 May 2014 (EDT)
-:Well, how about you just state that in the article? {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 16:57, 13 May 2014 (EDT)
-::...You don't get the point. {{User:Misty/sig}} 16:59, 13 May 2014 (EDT)
-:::Did you mean rename the page? {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 17:01, 13 May 2014 (EDT)
-::::...Yes... {{User:Misty/sig}} 17:03, 13 May 2014 (EDT)
-:::::Well then I agree with you! {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 17:06, 13 May 2014 (EDT)