Editing Talk:Egg Missile

==Merge Egg Missile with Egg Bomb==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|red|failed 2-3}}
Egg Missile need to be merge with Egg Bomb, because they do the same thing and can be cook by the cooker of the game they appear in. So, why not? This is also similar to Koopa Leaf and Turtley Leaf.

'''Proposer''': {{User|LudwigVon}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>April 23, 2015, 23:59 GMT</s> '''Extended''':  April 30, 2015, 23:59 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|LudwigVon}} - Per my proposal.
#{{User|Pseudo-dino}} Like Turtley Leaf and Koopa Leaf, these two are supposed to be the same item, even if they have different English names.

====Oppose====
#{{User|Binarystep}} Different Japanese name, likely different items (though one's clearly based on the other).
#{{User|Bwburke94}} Functionally identical, but different items per Binarystep.
#{{User|SmokedChili}} This is one of those rare cases where two functionally identical items have different names both in Japan and overseas. So per Binarystep.

====Comments====
I'm neutral for now. One thing I could think of for keeping these split is that Egg Missile and Egg Bomb have different names in Japan, while Koopa Leaf and Turtley Leaf do not. --{{User:SuperYoshiBros/sig}} 12:41, 9 April 2015 (EDT)

== Moving the "Double Dip Egg Bomb" glitch mention into trivia + merging the Tayce T. postcard mention into the regular synopsis? ==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|vetoed|Making a proposal to rewrite information is unnecessary, as per [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Rules|Rule #15]]}}
...I think the title said it well enough, but I was thinking of possibly moving these two sentences (which currently are just stuck in their own paragraphs) into these two dedicated zones. I'd like to ask before doing something like this, though, since I am aware trivia is usually kind of a stingy thing for this place, and I'm still new here, so I'd like to not over-do things. I'd also like to allow people to support the move, but not the merge, and vice versa, in case you like one idea, but not the other. 

'''Proposer''': {{User|Camwood777}}<br>
'''Deadline''': August 30th, 2017, 23:59 GMT

====Support Merge + Move====
#{{User|Camwood777}} - This moves two dangling sentences to more understandable locations.

====Support Merge, but not Move====

====Support Move, but not Merge====

====Oppose Both====

====Comments====
I don't think this warrants a talk page proposal, as they're reserved for more drastic matters. Just make the edits yourself. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:45, 23 August 2017 (EDT)
:What you're proposing is basically a rewrite, which is perfectly acceptable to do without making a proposal. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:10, 23 August 2017 (EDT)
::I agree. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 16:16, 23 August 2017 (EDT)
:Thing is, I'm afraid of accidentally shoving something into the "trivia" that doesn't count as trivia by the wiki ruling... Not to mention, I'm not planning on re-doing the ''whole dang page''. ''[[User:Camwood777|<font color="red">~Camwood777</font>]]'' 17:20, 23 August 2017 (EDT)
::Just make the changes you think need to be made. If you want some help with something like this, you're free to ask for it, non-proposal-wise. No need to be afraid of changing something minor on the wiki. If something goes wrong, it will be corrected. That's what we're all here to do :) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:25, 23 August 2017 (EDT)

== Merge ==

Let's see the evidence that these are the same:
*Both made from an egg and a Fire Flower
*Both have almost identical designs, with an egg and a fuse coming out of it. They're even tilted the same way.
*Same function of being thrown to do damage, mixing a healing item with a battle item to make a battle item
And evidence that these are different:
*Both do different amounts of damage
*Different English and JP names
I'm a splitter and not a merger, but I think these are the same thing. Any thoughts? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 14:48, February 22, 2020 (EST)
:I'd support this if the "chef-named" items with identical function and sometimes appearance are also merged. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:07, February 22, 2020 (EST)
::It's named the Egg Missile in ''Paper Mario'' and the Egg Bomb in the first two sequels, yet it deals six points of damage in ''The Thousand-Year Door'' and only one point in the other two? What's also odd is that the Egg Missile's description calls it an "egg Bomb". The Egg Bomb itsef has the Mystic Egg's striped design in ''The Thousand-Year Door'', yet the plain white in ''Super Paper Mario'' gives it a greater resemblance to the Egg Missile from ''Paper Mario''. I have a feeling that the item was simply renamed, or at least that traits of both were merged in ''Super Paper Mario''. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:20, February 22, 2020 (EST)
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 ==Merge Egg Missile with Egg Bomb==
-{{Settled TPP}}
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-{{Proposal outcome|red|failed 2-3}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|red|failed 2-3}}
 Egg Missile need to be merge with Egg Bomb, because they do the same thing and can be cook by the cooker of the game they appear in. So, why not? This is also similar to Koopa Leaf and Turtley Leaf.
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 == Moving the "Double Dip Egg Bomb" glitch mention into trivia + merging the Tayce T. postcard mention into the regular synopsis? ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{SettledTPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|vetoed|Making a proposal to rewrite information is unnecessary, as per [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Rules|Rule #15]]}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|vetoed|Making a proposal to rewrite information is unnecessary, as per [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Rules|Rule #15]]}}
 ...I think the title said it well enough, but I was thinking of possibly moving these two sentences (which currently are just stuck in their own paragraphs) into these two dedicated zones. I'd like to ask before doing something like this, though, since I am aware trivia is usually kind of a stingy thing for this place, and I'm still new here, so I'd like to not over-do things. I'd also like to allow people to support the move, but not the merge, and vice versa, in case you like one idea, but not the other.
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 == Merge ==
 Let's see the evidence that these are the same:
 *Both made from an egg and a Fire Flower
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 I'm a splitter and not a merger, but I think these are the same thing. Any thoughts? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 14:48, February 22, 2020 (EST)
 :I'd support this if the "chef-named" items with identical function and sometimes appearance are also merged. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:07, February 22, 2020 (EST)
-::It's named the Egg Missile in ''Paper Mario'' and the Egg Bomb in the first two sequels, yet it deals six points of damage in ''The Thousand-Year Door'' and only one point in the other two? What's also odd is that the Egg Missile's description calls it an "egg Bomb". The Egg Bomb itself has the Mystic Egg's striped design in ''The Thousand-Year Door'', yet the plain white in ''Super Paper Mario'' gives it a greater resemblance to the Egg Missile from ''Paper Mario''. I have a feeling that the item was simply renamed, or at least that traits of both were merged in ''Super Paper Mario''. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:20, February 22, 2020 (EST)
+::It's named the Egg Missile in ''Paper Mario'' and the Egg Bomb in the first two sequels, yet it deals six points of damage in ''The Thousand-Year Door'' and only one point in the other two? What's also odd is that the Egg Missile's description calls it an "egg Bomb". The Egg Bomb itsef has the Mystic Egg's striped design in ''The Thousand-Year Door'', yet the plain white in ''Super Paper Mario'' gives it a greater resemblance to the Egg Missile from ''Paper Mario''. I have a feeling that the item was simply renamed, or at least that traits of both were merged in ''Super Paper Mario''. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:20, February 22, 2020 (EST)
-:::Ye, I was figuring it was initially intended as a non-identical equivalent in TTYD, but SPM retroactively merged them. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:53, February 22, 2020 (EST)
-::::Would [[Poison Pokey]] and [[Pokey Mummy]] also factor into this? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 18:32, November 28, 2020 (EST)
-:::::Not really. While those are functionally almost the same and are undoubtedly conceptually the same, Poison Pokey was always depicted at a higher level than Pokey Mummy. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:14, November 29, 2020 (EST)
-::::::Just a side note: Poison Pokey's internal filename is <tt>c_sanbo_m</tt> in ''The Thousand-Year Door'' and <tt>e_sanbo_m</tt> in ''Super Paper Mario'', which may stand for "mummy" but might also stand for "''midori''" (green)...or possibly both. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:23, December 7, 2020 (EST)
-==Merge with [[Egg Bomb]]==
-{{Settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|7-0|merge}}
-They are pretty clearly the same thing:
-* Made by the same ingredients(Egg + Fire Flower).
-* Both have the same effect(Damaging Enemies).
-* Both have the same design(Egg with a fuse, Tilted to the left, and in SPM's case, same color).
-* The different color in TTYD is pretty clearly because the only egg in the game(the [[Mystic Egg]]) has a different color.
-* The Japanese name of the Egg Missile is the same as the English Name of the Egg Bomb.
-* The description of the Egg Missile says and I quote: "An '''Egg Bomb''' made by Tayce T. Throw it to damage 1 enemy."
-* The amount of damage that the Egg Bomb does in TTYD is the exact same as what the Egg Missile does in the original Paper Mario.
-* The different Damage in SPM is most likely because the entire gameplay style of SPM is different from the previous 2 games, and inflicting damage with an item on one specific enemy can't happen in a Platformer.
-'''Proposer''': {{User|Somethingone}}<br>
-'''Deadline''': August 1, 2021, 23:59 GMT
-====Support====
-#{{User|Somethingone}} They are clearly the same thing.
-#{{User|Keyblade Master}} We even have Fright Jar and Fright Mask merged despite different designs and names, but the exact same effect.
-#{{User|RHG1951}} Per proposal.
-#{{User|ShootingStar7X}} "''If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably ''is'' a duck.''" Also, it's not like Japanese names can never change as English names do.
-#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per everyone.
-#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all.
-#{{User|Pseudo}} Per all.
-====Oppose====
-====Comments====