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==Reorganize the Mario & Luigi drilling moves== | ==Reorganize the Mario & Luigi drilling moves== | ||
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Every Mario & Luigi game has had some sort of drilling move; Luigi Dunk in Superstar Saga, Baby Drill in Partners in Time, Drill Bros. in Bowser's Inside Story, Mole Mario in Dream Team, and finally Trio Drill in Paper Jam. Currently, the way we handle these is a bit weird. All of them are split into their own pages, with the exception of Baby Drill (Partners in Time) and Drill Bros. (Bowser's Inside Story) which share this page. | Every Mario & Luigi game has had some sort of drilling move; Luigi Dunk in Superstar Saga, Baby Drill in Partners in Time, Drill Bros. in Bowser's Inside Story, Mole Mario in Dream Team, and finally Trio Drill in Paper Jam. Currently, the way we handle these is a bit weird. All of them are split into their own pages, with the exception of Baby Drill (Partners in Time) and Drill Bros. (Bowser's Inside Story) which share this page. | ||
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Waluigi Time}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Waluigi Time}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': January 5, 2020, 23:59 GMT | ||
===Option 1: Merge all moves to Drill Bros.=== | ===Option 1: Merge all moves to Drill Bros.=== | ||
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per proposal. | |||
#{{User|TheDarkStar}} - Per proposal and [[MarioWiki talk:New articles|this discussion]]. | #{{User|TheDarkStar}} - Per proposal and [[MarioWiki talk:New articles|this discussion]]. | ||
===Option 2: Split Baby Drill=== | ===Option 2: Split Baby Drill=== | ||
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} My second choice. I don't necessarily want this, but if we're not going to merge them, we might as well do this. | #{{User|Waluigi Time}} My second choice. I don't necessarily want this, but if we're not going to merge them, we might as well do this. | ||
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} This is by far a better option. Luigi Dunk and Mole Mario work differently from Baby Drill and Drill Bros., and Trio Drill works differently from all four of the other variations. Plus [[Talk:Whirly Gate#Merge with Transformation Door|this is similar to a proposal that I started that didn't gain a single support vote]]. | #{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} This is by far a better option. Luigi Dunk and Mole Mario work differently from Baby Drill and Drill Bros., and Trio Drill works differently from all four of the other variations. Plus [[Talk:Whirly Gate#Merge with Transformation Door|this is similar to a proposal that I started that didn't gain a single support vote]]. | ||
===Option 3: Merge into two separate pages=== | ===Option 3: Merge into two separate pages=== | ||
#[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) It just doesn't seem right to merge moves that despite having the same function are still two separate things, reminding me of punch in SM64 and spin in the SMG games; at the same time, splitting each comes off as a tad superfluous to me at this current juncture, like punching in SM64 and the "Wario Whack" in SM64DS. | #[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) It just doesn't seem right to merge moves that despite having the same function are still two separate things, reminding me of punch in SM64 and spin in the SMG games; at the same time, splitting each comes off as a tad superfluous to me at this current juncture, like punching in SM64 and the "Wario Whack" in SM64DS. | ||
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Second option. See comments. Names should be the most recent names: Luigi Dunk (because of M&L:SS+BM) and Drill Bros. (because of M&L:BIS+BJJ) | #{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Second option. See comments. Names should be the most recent names: Luigi Dunk (because of M&L:SS+BM) and Drill Bros. (because of M&L:BIS+BJJ) | ||
===Option 4: Do nothing=== | ===Option 4: Do nothing=== | ||
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Preferred option. See comments. | #{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Preferred option. See comments. | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
This is here to explain my voting. I believe Baby Drill is too similar to Drill Bros. to warrant a split. Why? Because the only difference between the two are age of the Mario Bros. So what about the others. Well, Luigi Dunk and Mario Mole have one character spliting from the other, while Baby Drill, Drill Bros., and Trio Drill do not have this. So that should warrant a split of at least these two things. But I decided to look at the moves a little deeper. What else is different. Well, for Luigi Dunk and Mario Mole, although they are created by the same method, it should be noted that Mini-Mario can also be created using the same method as Mario Mole. The only thing that determines what you get in M&L:DT is the surface below Mario. Luigi Dunk, on the other hand, doesn't allow the second Bro. hammer move when on these hard surfaces. And the Mini-Mario move is also done separately in M&L:SS(+BM). But is this really enough to warrant a split between them? Maybe if the Trio Drill can be separated from Drill Bros. And so, I looked at that. And there is one thing that helps out this one: the ability to break rocks using the Y button. Otherwise there is nothing else. But I think that does warrant a split between it and Drill Bros. However, I still voted for option 3 because these are still minor differences and they are more minor then the separating of characters, which is a big deal in my opinion. | This is here to explain my voting. I believe Baby Drill is too similar to Drill Bros. to warrant a split. Why? Because the only difference between the two are age of the Mario Bros. So what about the others. Well, Luigi Dunk and Mario Mole have one character spliting from the other, while Baby Drill, Drill Bros., and Trio Drill do not have this. So that should warrant a split of at least these two things. But I decided to look at the moves a little deeper. What else is different. Well, for Luigi Dunk and Mario Mole, although they are created by the same method, it should be noted that Mini-Mario can also be created using the same method as Mario Mole. The only thing that determines what you get in M&L:DT is the surface below Mario. Luigi Dunk, on the other hand, doesn't allow the second Bro. hammer move when on these hard surfaces. And the Mini-Mario move is also done separately in M&L:SS(+BM). But is this really enough to warrant a split between them? Maybe if the Trio Drill can be separated from Drill Bros. And so, I looked at that. And there is one thing that helps out this one: the ability to break rocks using the Y button. Otherwise there is nothing else. But I think that does warrant a split between it and Drill Bros. However, I still voted for option 3 because these are still minor differences and they are more minor then the separating of characters, which is a big deal in my opinion. | ||
Wait. What about splitting the Baby Drill by this basis since they split the babies from the adults? While that's true, they don't split the baby Bros. apart. And that's what makes it so similar to the Drill Bros. And only the babies can use hammers in M&L:PIT. So only their age really separates the two. Which can't be really be a proper support since (a) they are still the same characters and (b) that is way too minor. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 16:43, December 23, 2019 (EST) | Wait. What about splitting the Baby Drill by this basis since they split the babies from the adults? While that's true, they don't split the baby Bros. apart. And that's what makes it so similar to the Drill Bros. And only the babies can use hammers in M&L:PIT. So only their age really separates the two. Which can't be really be a proper support since (a) they are still the same characters and (b) that is way too minor. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 16:43, December 23, 2019 (EST) | ||
