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==Split== | ==Split== | ||
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I would like to split Dribble and Spitz up as they aren't even the same person, we got to keep consistency (and lately, that's what we're trying to fix right now). Wikipedia doesn't have Batman and Robin as one article even though that title was ''officially'' used in comics, TV, and movies. Word to those possible opposers, it doesn't matter if they are categorized as a duo, they're both separate people and deserve as much respect to have their own article; still opposing? then think about this, how come 9-Volt and 18-Volt have separate articles if they are always shown together? Also, Dribble and Spitz have their own separate information from Wario Ware games, that should be enough to split them apart since there will be enough information in the article to make them separate regular size articles. And plus, the Wario Ware series hasn't ended, sequels will be made and they'll most likely have an appearance in those games also. | I would like to split Dribble and Spitz up as they aren't even the same person, we got to keep consistency (and lately, that's what we're trying to fix right now). Wikipedia doesn't have Batman and Robin as one article even though that title was ''officially'' used in comics, TV, and movies. Word to those possible opposers, it doesn't matter if they are categorized as a duo, they're both separate people and deserve as much respect to have their own article; still opposing? then think about this, how come 9-Volt and 18-Volt have separate articles if they are always shown together? Also, Dribble and Spitz have their own separate information from Wario Ware games, that should be enough to split them apart since there will be enough information in the article to make them separate regular size articles. And plus, the Wario Ware series hasn't ended, sequels will be made and they'll most likely have an appearance in those games also. | ||
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==Split Dribble and Spitz's taxi from this article== | ==Split Dribble and Spitz's taxi from this article== | ||
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Dribble and Spitz's taxi is not a regular taxi. It can transform into a rocketship to fly into space, and it regularly does so. The items and objects inside the taxi often serve as the lives for Dribble and Spitz's stages. In ''Twisted'', the taxi has a radio that changes the music during the stage, and it falls into disrepair during the story. In ''Touched'', new hosts are dropped off on the main screen by the taxi (with no indications that Dribble and Spitz are driving it). In ''Game & Wario'', [[Taxi (minigame)|an entire minigame]] centers around the taxi. By any standards, the taxi is more than notable enough to be split. And no, the article should not be merged solely because it isn't seen separately from its users, for the same reason that [[Princess Peach's Crown]] and [[Mario's Cap]] aren't merged: if the subject in question has enough prominence without an obscene amount of overlap, they should receive separate articles so that they can be covered more effectively. I argue that, for both its gameplay and story relevance, the taxi has more than enough prominence. | Dribble and Spitz's taxi is not a regular taxi. It can transform into a rocketship to fly into space, and it regularly does so. The items and objects inside the taxi often serve as the lives for Dribble and Spitz's stages. In ''Twisted'', the taxi has a radio that changes the music during the stage, and it falls into disrepair during the story. In ''Touched'', new hosts are dropped off on the main screen by the taxi (with no indications that Dribble and Spitz are driving it). In ''Game & Wario'', [[Taxi (minigame)|an entire minigame]] centers around the taxi. By any standards, the taxi is more than notable enough to be split. And no, the article should not be merged solely because it isn't seen separately from its users, for the same reason that [[Princess Peach's Crown]] and [[Mario's Cap]] aren't merged: if the subject in question has enough prominence without an obscene amount of overlap, they should receive separate articles so that they can be covered more effectively. I argue that, for both its gameplay and story relevance, the taxi has more than enough prominence. | ||
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== “It’s time.”-Ashley == | == “It’s time.”-Ashley == | ||
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I feel like we need consistency in the WarioWare articles. Dribble and Spitz are night and day, just like Ashley and Red. So why are they split, but Dribble and Spitz are still together? Should we keep the page like this, or split for consistency? | I feel like we need consistency in the WarioWare articles. Dribble and Spitz are night and day, just like Ashley and Red. So why are they split, but Dribble and Spitz are still together? Should we keep the page like this, or split for consistency? | ||
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#{{User|DrkLrdHmGree3856}} I feel that consistency is necessary in articles! Who’s with me!? | #{{User|DrkLrdHmGree3856}} I feel that consistency is necessary in articles! Who’s with me!? | ||
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#{{User|Dark-Boy-1up}} I believe [[WarioWare: Get It Together!]] made a distinction between if characters should be separated or if they should be considered best buddies (and also be grouped together when people are talking about them.) | #{{User|Dark-Boy-1up}} I believe [[WarioWare: Get It Together!]] made a distinction between if characters should be separated or if they should be considered best buddies (and also be grouped together when people are talking about them.) | ||
#{{User|Hewer}} The result of this wouldn't be consistency, we already are consistent right now. Ashley & Red and Cricket & Mantis were split because they're completely separate characters in Get It Together, which Dribble & Spitz are not, they're a character duo where player 1 is Dribble and player 2 is Spitz, and their abilities are identical to each other except mirrored. The only way this would be consistent is if Kat & Ana got split as well since they're in the same situation, and I don't see why these splits would be needed for character duos who are always seen together. | #{{User|Hewer}} The result of this wouldn't be consistency, we already are consistent right now. Ashley & Red and Cricket & Mantis were split because they're completely separate characters in Get It Together, which Dribble & Spitz are not, they're a character duo where player 1 is Dribble and player 2 is Spitz, and their abilities are identical to each other except mirrored. The only way this would be consistent is if Kat & Ana got split as well since they're in the same situation, and I don't see why these splits would be needed for character duos who are always seen together. | ||
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Currently abstaining to vote (honestly it could go either way for me), but I thought it would be important to mention that the main reason why Ashley and Red were decided to be split, as shown [[Talk:Ashley#A "split into separate articles" proposal? Oh no, not again!|here]], is due to how the two are handled in ''[[WarioWare: Get It Together!]]''. In that game, Ashley and Red are separate playable characters with completely different abilities that had their own separate plot points and were unlocked at different parts of the game. The very same goes for [[Young Cricket]] and [[Master Mantis]], and thus was also the deciding factor for [[Talk:Young Cricket#Split (...again)|this proposal]].<br>Dribble and Spitz, however... even in ''Get It Together'', they are intrinsically linked to each other. You encounter and unlock those two at the exact same time in the exact same stage, and most importantly, ''they share a character slot'': Dribble and Spitz play the exact same, except that Dribble always faces right and Spitz always faces left; as such, the game kind of considers them the same character, with Player 1 controlling Dribble and Player 2 controlling Spitz (with no way Player 1 being able to control Spitz or Player 2 being able to control Dribble, unlike nearly every other playable character). The exact same goes for [[Kat & Ana]].<br>And sure, ''[[WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!]]'' and ''[[WarioWare: Move It!]]'' allows players to play as either Dribble or Spitz, or either Kat or Ana, regardless of what player number they are, but in those games, all characters play identically anyway.<br>Sure, arguments could be made that they deserve to be split - different personalities, separate profiles, etc. But it appears ''Get It Together'' has made a major distinction between character duos like Ashley & Red, and character duos like Dribble & Spitz. {{User:Arend/sig}} 21:40, January 21, 2024 (EST) | Currently abstaining to vote (honestly it could go either way for me), but I thought it would be important to mention that the main reason why Ashley and Red were decided to be split, as shown [[Talk:Ashley#A "split into separate articles" proposal? Oh no, not again!|here]], is due to how the two are handled in ''[[WarioWare: Get It Together!]]''. In that game, Ashley and Red are separate playable characters with completely different abilities that had their own separate plot points and were unlocked at different parts of the game. The very same goes for [[Young Cricket]] and [[Master Mantis]], and thus was also the deciding factor for [[Talk:Young Cricket#Split (...again)|this proposal]].<br>Dribble and Spitz, however... even in ''Get It Together'', they are intrinsically linked to each other. You encounter and unlock those two at the exact same time in the exact same stage, and most importantly, ''they share a character slot'': Dribble and Spitz play the exact same, except that Dribble always faces right and Spitz always faces left; as such, the game kind of considers them the same character, with Player 1 controlling Dribble and Player 2 controlling Spitz (with no way Player 1 being able to control Spitz or Player 2 being able to control Dribble, unlike nearly every other playable character). The exact same goes for [[Kat & Ana]].<br>And sure, ''[[WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!]]'' and ''[[WarioWare: Move It!]]'' allows players to play as either Dribble or Spitz, or either Kat or Ana, regardless of what player number they are, but in those games, all characters play identically anyway.<br>Sure, arguments could be made that they deserve to be split - different personalities, separate profiles, etc. But it appears ''Get It Together'' has made a major distinction between character duos like Ashley & Red, and character duos like Dribble & Spitz. {{User:Arend/sig}} 21:40, January 21, 2024 (EST) | ||
== Spitz's species == | == Spitz's species == | ||
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::Makes sense. I'll admit ''WarioWare'' gags aren't my forte. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 11:15, January 22, 2024 (EST) | ::Makes sense. I'll admit ''WarioWare'' gags aren't my forte. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 11:15, January 22, 2024 (EST) | ||
::Yeah, I should mention that Dribble and Spitz are most likely named after types of saliva instead of dog breeds. As in, ''dribble'' (aka drool), and ''spit''. Dunno why there's an extra Z at the end of Spitz's name... probably to make it cooler, or sound more like a name. In either case, this at least connect the two names together, much like how "Kat" and "Ana" can be merged to form the Japanese sword "katana", how "Cricket", "Mantis" and "Cicada" are all types of insects, or how 9-Volt, 18-Volt, 5-Volt (5-Watt) and 13-Amp are electricity-related. {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:00, January 22, 2024 (EST) | ::Yeah, I should mention that Dribble and Spitz are most likely named after types of saliva instead of dog breeds. As in, ''dribble'' (aka drool), and ''spit''. Dunno why there's an extra Z at the end of Spitz's name... probably to make it cooler, or sound more like a name. In either case, this at least connect the two names together, much like how "Kat" and "Ana" can be merged to form the Japanese sword "katana", how "Cricket", "Mantis" and "Cicada" are all types of insects, or how 9-Volt, 18-Volt, 5-Volt (5-Watt) and 13-Amp are electricity-related. {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:00, January 22, 2024 (EST) | ||