Editing Talk:Donkey Kong Jr.

Just to clear things up: DK Jr. is NOT the younger version of [[Donkey Kong|DK]].  [[Baby Donkey Kong|Baby DK]] is.
[[User:Waluigi Freak 99|WF99]] 15:06, 27 August 2006 (EDT)
:According to Rare and Donkey Kong 64, the current Donkey Kong is the son of the first Donkey Kong, Cranky Kong. Donkey Kong Jr. is the son of the original Donkey Kong and as such, Donkey Kong Jr. is the current Donkey Kong. Mario Superstar Baseball also says that the current Donkey Kong has an ancestor that does not wear a tie (the original Donkey Kong). The current and the old are two distinct Donkey Kongs. It is unknown if Baby DK is the baby form of DK Jr. (the current Donkey Kong) or Cranky Kong (the original Donkey Kong). Also, Yoshi's Island 2 has not been released yet, so information regarding Baby DK is not yet canon (although it appears Baby DK will be the youngest version of the current Donkey Kong, meaning DK Jr. is the adolescent version of the current DK). -- [[User: Son of Suns]]

::Okay, you make a valid point, but did you have to delete everything else I added to the article?  I had a lot of other useful info in there, too.
[[User:Waluigi Freak 99|Waluigi Freak 99]] 16:44, 28 August 2006 (EDT)

:::I apologize for my brash revert. Thanks for putting your info back in. =) -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

It says in the manual of Donkey Kong Country that Cranky Kong is the grandfather of the current Donkey Kong, so wouldn't this mean that the current Donkey Kong is not Donkey Kong Jr. but in fact Donkey Kong Jr's son? It says in the story section "He groggily rolled over to see the familiar wrinkled, white-bearded, grouchy face of his old granddad 'Cranky Kong' peering down at him."-- [[User: XellKhaar]]

I thought Cranky Kong was the father of the original Donkey Kong. That would make DK Jr. The current Donkey Kong and his grandfather. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}}

Snake's codec conversation on Donkey Kong in Brawl confirms that Donkey kong's grandfather was the Kong that kidnapped pauline and fought Mario, and cranky Kong has previously been confirmed to fill this role.  This effectively makes Cranky kong the original Donkey kong, and DK's grandfather, while Donkey Kong Jr. is now officially DK's dad.

[[User: Irishladdie727]]

:Well, Melee had a lot of errors as well like how it said in Daisy's trophy that she appeared in Mario Golf. Candy Kong's trophy also states that she's DK's rumored girlfriend yet the Donkey Kong Country games clearly said Candy Kong was his girlfriend. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>

It may be because I'm biased agaist Super Smash Bros. Brawl (crude humor, violence... grr), but I think it's better to rely on the main series for the bgest canonical information. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}}

Something ''completely different and unrelated.'' There are two of the [[Mario's Tennis]] picture of Donkey Kong Jr., {{fakelink|Image:MTDkjr.png}} and [[:Image:Mario'sT DonkeyKongJr.jpg]]. One is on this page (Donkey Kong Jr.) and one is on the Mario's Tennis page. Shouldn't one be deleted? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 17:36, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

And... the latest edit by Princess Michiru says that Donkey Kong in DKC is a totally new character who is not Donkey Kong Jr. Is there any proof of ''that''? No, I don't think that's true. I think what it said before was correct. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 11:13, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

As bad as speculation is, we need to adhere to some of it. If we have no proof in either direction, then both possibilities should be mentioned in the article. I'm going to change something, tell me if anyone here approves. - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]

== Punch-Out!! ==

How do we know the audience member isn't arcade-style Donkey Kong (Cranky Kong, I guess)? {{User:Dodoman/sig}} 22:33, 27 October 2009 (EDT)
:There are two apes in the audience, so the bigger one has to be Donkey Kong (aka Cranky), while the smaller ape is Junior. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 12:18, 9 February 2010 (EST)

==DK or junior?==

Okay,so according to the cranky kong article,Cranky was kidnapped by Mario.But the DK jr article says that donkey kong jr has to save '''His father'''.But,Donkey Kong is his father,not cranky!Am I right?{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
:There has always been confusion about the identity of "Donkey Kong" since ''Donkey Kong Country'', which introduced the DK of today. To clear it up:
:*Cranky Kong is the aged version of the original Donkey Kong from the arcade games. So both are the same ape.
:*Donkey Kong Jr. is the son of the original Donkey Kong (aka Cranky).
:*The Donkey Kong who stars in recent games first appeared in ''Donkey Kong Country''. He is the grandson of the original DK (Cranky), which makes him the son of Junior. His identity is inconsistent, though. He has also been called Cranky's son (which would make him the grown-up Junior), or it has even been implied that there has always been only one Donkey Kong. 
:Well, but that the current DK is the original DK's grandson seems to be the most accepted identity. I suggest you to read about [http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/kongtroversy.shtml "Kongtroversy"] for further information. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 08:20, 26 February 2010 (EST)

== Cameo in Waluigi Stadium ==

Does anyone know if DKJr appears in the Mario Kart Wii version on Waluigi Stadium? {{User:Tails777/sig}}

I checked myself a while ago, and no, he is replaced by [[Monty Moles]]. {{User:Dhock}}

== Who is Donkey Kong Jr? ==
Some games says that he's Cranky's son and DK's father, while some others says it's the current DK. It is very clear though that he is the current DK's father. Just look at [[Mario Tennis (Nintendo 64|Mario Tennis]], he appears WITH DK in it. Also, Donkey Kong's full name is Donkey Kong III, meaning that he's the third Donkey Kong that existed (the first one was Cranky, then the second one would HAVE to be Donkey Kong Junior!). Is that a good enough proof? --[[User:Metalex123|Metalex123]] ([[User talk:Metalex123|talk]]) 01:14, 22 November 2014 (EST)
:In the same Mario Tennis, we have Mario and Baby Mario, so it's not that clear-cut. Nowhere did I hear that Donkey Kong's full name is Donkey Kong III. So yeah, this headache of a debate isn't over. {{User:Mario/sig}} 01:31, 22 November 2014 (EST)
::Given that Nintendo and its affiliates have landed on the original story of [[Cranky Kong#Identity confusion|Cranky being DK's grandfather]], I'd say this has been effectively settled...at least, implicitly. Apparently, I guess Donkey Kong has an unseen brother or sister (if one takes the existence of [[Baby Kong]] from the show as his actual, [[Diddy Kong|less debatable]] nephew seriously), so who's to say DK Jr. is necessarily his father? As for Donkey Kong "III" - just like Bowser "Sr.", he doesn't seem to have ever been called that, so that being part of his name is speculation. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:34, 22 November 2014 (EST)
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 It may be because I'm biased agaist Super Smash Bros. Brawl (crude humor, violence... grr), but I think it's better to rely on the main series for the bgest canonical information. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}}
-Something ''completely different and unrelated.'' There are two of the [[Mario's Tennis]] picture of Donkey Kong Jr., {{fake link|Image:MTDkjr.png}} and [[:Image:Mario'sT DonkeyKongJr.jpg]]. One is on this page (Donkey Kong Jr.) and one is on the Mario's Tennis page. Shouldn't one be deleted? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 17:36, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
+Something ''completely different and unrelated.'' There are two of the [[Mario's Tennis]] picture of Donkey Kong Jr., {{fakelink|Image:MTDkjr.png}} and [[:Image:Mario'sT DonkeyKongJr.jpg]]. One is on this page (Donkey Kong Jr.) and one is on the Mario's Tennis page. Shouldn't one be deleted? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 17:36, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
 And... the latest edit by Princess Michiru says that Donkey Kong in DKC is a totally new character who is not Donkey Kong Jr. Is there any proof of ''that''? No, I don't think that's true. I think what it said before was correct. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 11:13, 7 June 2008 (EDT)
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 :In the same Mario Tennis, we have Mario and Baby Mario, so it's not that clear-cut. Nowhere did I hear that Donkey Kong's full name is Donkey Kong III. So yeah, this headache of a debate isn't over. {{User:Mario/sig}} 01:31, 22 November 2014 (EST)
 ::Given that Nintendo and its affiliates have landed on the original story of [[Cranky Kong#Identity confusion|Cranky being DK's grandfather]], I'd say this has been effectively settled...at least, implicitly. Apparently, I guess Donkey Kong has an unseen brother or sister (if one takes the existence of [[Baby Kong]] from the show as his actual, [[Diddy Kong|less debatable]] nephew seriously), so who's to say DK Jr. is necessarily his father? As for Donkey Kong "III" - just like Bowser "Sr.", he doesn't seem to have ever been called that, so that being part of his name is speculation. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:34, 22 November 2014 (EST)
-== Donkey Kong Jr ==
-Kong years are different from human years in the Mario universe, It makes more sense to consider Cranky Kong, Arcade Donkey Kong's father and Donkey Kong Jr to be the current Donkey Kong {{unsigned|Rowbro}}
-== Donkey Kong FANDOM ==
-so I just based Donkey Kong Jr's first appearance from the FANDOM page, I wonder what makes FANDOM not a valid source?--[[User:Rowbro|Rowbro]] ([[User talk:Rowbro|talk]]) 01:29, August 8, 2020 (EDT)
-:It's another wiki. It's about as verifiable as our own content, as anyone can add whatever. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 01:32, August 8, 2020 (EDT)
-:That page also doesn't even have a source itself. You would need to know where ''they'' got that information from. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 01:36, August 8, 2020 (EDT)
-::Regardless, the entity you are referring to is officially named [[Mini Donkey Kong (Game & Watch)|Mini Donkey Kong]] (Alarm Mini Donkey Kong in Japanese), so he is definitely ''not'' DK Jr. He doesn't even look particularly like him. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:05, August 8, 2020 (EDT)
-::Any other Wiki including Wikipedia cannot be used as a source. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
-== DK Jr. in Konami's Ping Pong (Famicom Disk System) ==
-The small dude appeared in the FDS version of Ping Pong. i see no mention of it in his page.
-[[User:XeroSchnee20|XeroSchnee20]] ([[User talk:XeroSchnee20|talk]]) 23:33, June 24, 2023 (EDT)