Editing Talk:Dixie Kong's Photo Album

==(First topic)==
I don't remember this being in the game... {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:Well, the title is actually conjecture, forgot to add that, but IGN labels them as Dixie Kong's '''Photos'''. {{User:BluePikminKong497/sig}} 00:29, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::I really don't feel that this is an important enough topic to have an article... {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

== TPP: Merge all of the ''DKC3'' Dixie's album group pages into this page ==
{{TPP}}
To be clear, this proposes that these pages:

*[[Kremling Kreeps]]
*[[Terrorfirma Tuff Guys]]
*[[Flying Fiends]]
*[[Aquatic Attackers]]
*[[Big Time Bad Guys]]
*[[First Class Friends]]
*<s>[[Brothers Bear]]</s> (Copy-paste error; not intended to be part of proposal)
*[[Crucial Kongs]]

be merged and redirected into [[Dixie Kong's Photo Album]]. The merged page would look like <span class="plainlinks">[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Dixie_Kong%27s_Photo_Album&oldid=2425387 this]</span> .

The ''DKC3'' enemy group articles are very short and have no additional content that could be added. This page is the perfect master-page for explaining the details of each of the groups, and allows needless redundancy ("This group is from Dixie's Photo Album, from ''DKC3'', ...") to be avoided in their descriptions. The groups do not appear to merit their own page separate from the photo album.

'''Proposer''': {{User|The Retro Gamer}}<br>
'''Deadline''': 23:59, 30 April 2018 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|The Retro Gamer}}: My own nomination.
#{{User|Glowsquid}} - The "enemy group" pages are repetitive and convey basically no useful information of their own. Never liked 'em.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} I'd say merge all of them '''except''' Brothers Bear, which appears to be a regular species name instead.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per proposal.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I support merging the articles, as the information could easily fit on this article, and a large amount of the articles are taken up by galleries, which are already found on this article.

====Oppose====
#{{User|LUIGIRULES71}} i Don't Like This idea...at all... Why Merge This One While The DKC2 ones Stay The Same? Why Not Remove The info on Dixie Kong's Photo Album and Leave Only The names? Plus i Think Dudim Phreykunoutonthis is Less Deserving of a Page Due To Having only one species in it. The album is simply a character cast. We Don't Have Kremling Kuthroats Merged With The Credits, Why Only The DKC3 Ones?
====Comments====
Is this just in reference to the DKC3 ones, the DKC3 and DKC2 ones, or all including any other existing ones? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:30, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
:This proposal is just in reference to the ''DKC3'' ones. Now that you mention it, it may be more productive to make a general enemy groups proposal. But those merges are slightly less straightforward. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 00:35, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
::All right, well how about the Crucial Kongs and friends groups? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:40, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
:::What about them? They're just names, just like all the others. They're worth a mention on the appropriate pages, but not much else. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 00:54, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
::::The proposal title says "''enemy'' groups." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:24, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::''Edited''. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 01:48, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::Yes, but.....Crucial Kongs still aren't enemies.... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:57, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::::Technically correct. ''Edited'' [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 02:01, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::::Thank you. Now I'll think a bit on this, as I can easily see both sides... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:02, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

Another thing: will this affect the enemy classes from ''[[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]]'', such as [[Projectilia Ritebakatchia]]? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 05:56, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
:I asked that right above, when I said "or all including any other existing ones." I had alreadly brought up [[Dudim Phreykunoutonthis]] on his talk page, so he knew about them when I asked. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:15, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
:To reference my reply, "This proposal is just in reference to the ''DKC3'' ones." My proposal previously suffered from a lack of clarity, but now I've clarified it's specific to ''DKC3'' photo album groups. If this proposal goes through, I may start a more general enemy groups proposal, but that's ''not'' what I'm currently suggesting here. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 07:53, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

'''@Toadette the Achiever''' I didn't actually intend for Brothers Bear to be part of the proposal, that just slipped in from a copy-paste error. I've corrected the proposal. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 10:19, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

I just wonder if we can recreate the categories as...well, categories (size permitting), since we do so for the DKC2 enemy classes... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:42, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
:I don't see a real use-case for the categories. While they do group together characters by type to a certain extent, the categories would have so few members. In fact, Aquatic Attackers is listed as the example in [[MarioWiki:Categories#Size and scope]] of how "small lists can simply be placed on an article that's central to the subject at hand". The example page link in Size and scope will need to updated, but the same principle still applies: these enemy group designations are exclusive to Dixie Kong's Photo Album making the photo album "central to the subject at hand". [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 00:00, 17 April 2018 (EDT)

@LuigiRules71 I said the Dudim one because it was the only one I could fully remember off the top of my head TBH. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:20, 17 April 2018 (EDT)

'''@LUIGIRULES71''': This proposal does not include the ''DKC2'' enemy groups because there's not an obvious consolidated article for them (a possibility is to create "Enemy groups of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''"). As for Dudim, it very well may be less-deserving of a page, but that's not related to this proposal; if that doesn't deserve to be its own page, make a proposal to merge or delete ''it'', don't oppose another proposal just because of inconsistency. Wikis are by their nature inconsistent in certain ways, and it's up to us editors to define the most useful standard. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 01:42, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
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 == TPP: Merge all of the ''DKC3'' Dixie's album group pages into this page ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
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-{{Proposal outcome|passed|7-3|merge}}
 To be clear, this proposes that these pages:
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 #{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per proposal.
 #{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I support merging the articles, as the information could easily fit on this article, and a large amount of the articles are taken up by galleries, which are already found on this article.
-#{{User|LudwigVon}} Per all.
-#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Per all.
 ====Oppose====
 #{{User|LUIGIRULES71}} i Don't Like This idea...at all... Why Merge This One While The DKC2 ones Stay The Same? Why Not Remove The info on Dixie Kong's Photo Album and Leave Only The names? Plus i Think Dudim Phreykunoutonthis is Less Deserving of a Page Due To Having only one species in it. The album is simply a character cast. We Don't Have Kremling Kuthroats Merged With The Credits, Why Only The DKC3 Ones?
-#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} You know what? I prefer official groupings to get their own pages. Expansion and rewriting might just be the better option for these.
-#{{User|Niiue}} Per Doc.
 ====Comments====
 Is this just in reference to the DKC3 ones, the DKC3 and DKC2 ones, or all including any other existing ones? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:30, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
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 '''@LUIGIRULES71''': This proposal does not include the ''DKC2'' enemy groups because there's not an obvious consolidated article for them (a possibility is to create "Enemy groups of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''"). As for Dudim, it very well may be less-deserving of a page, but that's not related to this proposal; if that doesn't deserve to be its own page, make a proposal to merge or delete ''it'', don't oppose another proposal just because of inconsistency. Wikis are by their nature inconsistent in certain ways, and it's up to us editors to define the most useful standard. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 01:42, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
-@Doc von Schmeltwick: The thing is, there's not really any more viable content that could be added, because the enemy groups are only referenced in one scene; they aren't really that important. It's not like the enemy groups won't redirect to Dixie Kong's Photo Album anyway, so I don't think there's any fear of lost information here. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 20:48, 29 April 2018 (EDT)