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== Move the Island Guardians to shortened names == | == Move the Island Guardians to shortened names == | ||
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We used to write characters like [[Taj]] and [[Rambi]] with their longer "X the Y" styled names, like "Taj the Genie" and "Rambi the Rhinoceros." We don't anymore, and the Island Guardian pages (as in, the first four bosses - Tricky, Bluey, Bubbler, and Smokey) continue to do so purely as a relic of this era. While this seems to be a no-brainer, it's complicated by the "full" names being officially used for the race courses they are faced on, which we currently list as "[[Tricky's Course]]" and the like - all conjecturally (meanwhile I don't know if the "full" names are ever specifically attributed to the characters rather than the courses, but if you know they are, let me know). So we need to figure out what do do regarding those. In Bubbler's case, since there's also an [[Bubbler (object)|object]] of that name, he will be moved to "Bubbler (character)." | We used to write characters like [[Taj]] and [[Rambi]] with their longer "X the Y" styled names, like "Taj the Genie" and "Rambi the Rhinoceros." We don't anymore, and the Island Guardian pages (as in, the first four bosses - Tricky, Bluey, Bubbler, and Smokey) continue to do so purely as a relic of this era. While this seems to be a no-brainer, it's complicated by the "full" names being officially used for the race courses they are faced on, which we currently list as "[[Tricky's Course]]" and the like - all conjecturally (meanwhile I don't know if the "full" names are ever specifically attributed to the characters rather than the courses, but if you know they are, let me know). So we need to figure out what do do regarding those. In Bubbler's case, since there's also an [[Bubbler (object)|object]] of that name, he will be moved to "Bubbler (character)." | ||
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===Move bosses to shortened names, move courses to old names=== | ===Move bosses to shortened names, move courses to old names=== | ||
#{{User|Hewer}} Per pro | |||
<s>#{{User| | <s>#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Closest to known official use.</s><br> | ||
<s>#{{User| | <s>#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Preferred option</s> | ||
===Move bosses to shortened names, move courses to old names with "(course)" identifier=== | ===Move bosses to shortened names, move courses to old names with "(course)" identifier=== | ||
#{{User|Hewer}} posal. | |||
#{{User|Jdtendo}} I think most people would think of "Tricky the Triceratops" as the triceratops named Tricky (and so on), so I think we should use the "(course)" identifier to clear up confusion. | |||
<s>#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Second option</s> | |||
<s>#{{User|Arend}} Makes sense to me given the old names are still the bosses' full names.</s> | |||
===Move bosses to shortened names, leave course names out of this=== | ===Move bosses to shortened names, leave course names out of this=== | ||
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per what Tails777 has brought up, this will allow the courses to be moved to the "challenge" names without a separate proposal or anything. | #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per what Tails777 has brought up, this will allow the courses to be moved to the "challenge" names without a separate proposal or anything. | ||
#{{User|Arend}} The [https://archive.org/details/diddy-kong-racing-nintendo-players-guide/mode/2up Nintendo Player's Guide] that Tails777 brought up shows official names for these courses being '''Tricky Challenge''', '''Bluey Challenge''', '''Bubbler Challenge''', and '''Smokey Challenge''', meaning they don't have to be moved to the characters' full names (incidentally, it also shows an alternative name for [[Wizpig Strikes Back]] in '''Wizpig Challenge''', but also calls it by its other name on Page 124). | #{{User|Arend}} The [https://archive.org/details/diddy-kong-racing-nintendo-players-guide/mode/2up Nintendo Player's Guide] that Tails777 brought up shows official names for these courses being '''Tricky Challenge''', '''Bluey Challenge''', '''Bubbler Challenge''', and '''Smokey Challenge''', meaning they don't have to be moved to the characters' full names (incidentally, it also shows an alternative name for [[Wizpig Strikes Back]] in '''Wizpig Challenge''', but also calls it by its other name on Page 124). | ||
===Do not move bosses, move courses to boss names with "(course)" identifier=== | ===Do not move bosses, move courses to boss names with "(course)" identifier=== | ||
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===Leave them both be=== | ===Leave them both be=== | ||
#{{User|Tails777}} Okay, I'll weigh in on this. Concerning the "Long name vs. short name" deal, I feel this is a situation that should be tackled as one big group rather than individual cases. We have the DK Animal Friends using their short names, crossover characters using their short names (something that is [[Talk:Shadow#Rename to "Shadow"|also being debated]]), with both cases being because the shorter names are more common, yet we have the Koopalings using their full names for articles, despite their shorter names being more commonly used (as well as the [[Talk:Princess Daisy#Move to "Daisy"|Daisy proposal]] failing, despite being in a very similar situation). Overall, I feel my stance is just rather than looking at each individual case, it may be better to tackle this all as one big thing. That's just me though and if I'm to weigh in here, I feel using their full names for now is fine. The courses do HAVE official names (being "Tricky's Challenge", "Smokey's Challenge" etc) and I'd rather use those names. | #{{User|Tails777}} Okay, I'll weigh in on this. Concerning the "Long name vs. short name" deal, I feel this is a situation that should be tackled as one big group rather than individual cases. We have the DK Animal Friends using their short names, crossover characters using their short names (something that is [[Talk:Shadow#Rename to "Shadow"|also being debated]]), with both cases being because the shorter names are more common, yet we have the Koopalings using their full names for articles, despite their shorter names being more commonly used (as well as the [[Talk:Princess Daisy#Move to "Daisy"|Daisy proposal]] failing, despite being in a very similar situation). Overall, I feel my stance is just rather than looking at each individual case, it may be better to tackle this all as one big thing. That's just me though and if I'm to weigh in here, I feel using their full names for now is fine. The courses do HAVE official names (being "Tricky's Challenge", "Smokey's Challenge" etc) and I'd rather use those names. | ||
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:::::All this being said, why exactly are the course names using conjectural names over the ones with sources? Names like Tricky's Challenge are officially sourced, why exactly aren't we using those? {{User:Tails777/sig}} | :::::All this being said, why exactly are the course names using conjectural names over the ones with sources? Names like Tricky's Challenge are officially sourced, why exactly aren't we using those? {{User:Tails777/sig}} | ||
::::::Because the "challenge" names were only -just- discovered? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:29, July 21, 2024 (EDT) | ::::::Because the "challenge" names were only -just- discovered? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:29, July 21, 2024 (EDT) | ||
