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== More Like De-Organizing ==
I'm aware this page doesn't dit the same format as all other character pages, but it's not like the other characte rpages aren't messe dup. This isn't messed up so mutch as it is different. Which makes sense considering the character doesn't appear in that many main story games. I thought there was some specific in place that allowed the page to be different becaus eof her vast spin-off appearances. Same with Waluigi and so on. Also, if any pages need re-organizing someone should fix the more important pages like Mario and Peaches first. Aaand, this whole site sitll needs overhall, bluntly. [[User:Panchito|Panchito]]
:We have a policy regarding this, see [[Help:Article#History|here]]. Please don't undo edits that follow this policy. If you don't like it, you should discuss the policy itself. But the point is, each of Daisy's appearances is just as valid as the game appearances, so they all belong in the History section. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 14:35, 19 November 2009 (EST)
:Time Q, as far as I remember the Daisy page was given special reason to stay like this, which DID have a lot to do with her appearances. Also, you didn't even reorganize it well. And, why are you even editing Daisy's page? You should know that I have this page covered. Another question as to why you are editing her page, uhm Peach's page is a ridiculous pile of mess. This just feels like you got your way by reverting my proposal and now you're ruining the only page I care about, which has been in this format for months, regardless of that link. You're basically trying to thwart anything I do. Is there a reason you're editing Daisy's page and not anyone else's? Because it's not in the right format? No, because neither are other pages which seem like they should be more relevance to you. This is ridiculous. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]

Hm, honestly..Princess Daisy's page was one of the few pages that was absolutely fine. Maybe you should spend your efforts fixing pages that are actually in need of fixing, like Mario's for instance.
Your changes were quite useless and just made everything jumbled together.  [[User:Toadine|Toadine]]

So pretty much I'm going to change it back soon. If TimeQ cares he would show up before I revert the page to talk about it here, if not it's obvious he was just waiting for someone to edit the page again. I have already contacted multiple others about his actions. It is clear this isn't about the format of her page so much as it is getting his own way when other pages are in far more need than Daisy's. Also, like I said, he didn't even do it correctly. So I will give it more time but I think others can see what's going on here. I can help make the page right, but that's only going to happen when we have the right standards (not atm) and other pages are fixed first, per walkazo.[[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]

:To clarify a few things. 1) NOTHING of what I do is to upset you, so please stop thinking I have anything against you. 2) The reason I edited this page is that I searched for "Appearances in Other Media" in the searchbox. Articles with those sections are not organized according to our policy, because we don't separate appearances in "games" and "other media". Daisy was one of the first pages that showed up in the search, so I edited it. I also edited [[Beanstalk]], so please don't think I chose this one to upset you. 3) Obviously it is me who is in the right in this matter, because I think I did organize everything correct according to our policies. 4) What did I do wrong in your opinion? 5) Who said there was a "special reason" for Daisy to stay in the incorrect form? {{User:Time Q/sig}} 15:50, 19 November 2009 (EST)
:Two more things: You have no right to be the only person to cover this article. If you want this, make your own wiki and protect the article from all other editors. Super Mario Wiki is community work, and if you publish something, you agree that it may be edited by others. And secondly, I have no time to edit each and every article here. The reason I chose this one is that it was already organized in great parts, I just needed to incorporate a few more sections into the History section. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 15:58, 19 November 2009 (EST)
::Clearly you can see how it's noticeable that regardless of the excuses you seem to have come up with, you appear to be attacking my personal preferences and actions. As it is true the wiki's standard was not being followed, I find it interesting that you just happened to run into the problems on this page instead of the other pages like mentioned. I didn't mean to imply I was the only one who could edit this page, but I did mean to imply that your edits were unneeded. Still, one day I will get this format to change, and I WILL have my way. Nothing personal. Oh, and also, I'm going to show you exactly what you did wrong. You'll see, or you won't. Just leave me be and be happy with the fact you're basically still getting your way. I hope you're happy. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]
:::Also, maybe you should check the contribution. I would say by logic I could be the only person allowed to edit this page, but that's irrelevant to the point. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]
::::This is really getting personal here and I think we should continue this discussion on our user talk pages. But let me assure you that I do NOT intend to attack your personal preferences and actions. I'm sorry if I seem to be, and I admit that it looks like it from your point of view. First the proposal, now this, of course it looks to you like I am attacking you. But believe me, when I edited this article, I didn't even think about you. I already explained how I came to edit this article rather than Mario's or some other. So much for the personal issue. As a matter of fact, I'm in the right here. I followed the wiki policies, while the article's form you're defending does not. So the question can't be whether I had the "right" to edit the article; of course I had. The question is if it was something personal against you, and only I know that, and I assure you that it was not. Of course I can't prove that, I can just ask you to believe me.
::::Completely apart from that, I don't like you're attitude towards the wiki. No, you're NOT the only person allowed to edit this page, and you're NOT the only one to decide over the fate of the wiki. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 16:31, 19 November 2009 (EST)
:Maybe you should read more carefully. I said I COULD be the only person allowed to, not that I should or even at all that I am. Also, maybe you should go fix Luigi's or Toad's pages. They have other media sections but I checked recently and you haven't done anything there. Also, I don't like YOUR attitude to this wiki. Regardless of the fact a page might be better in a format that breaks the standard ( A BROKEN STANDARD ), you want it to follow that broken standard. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]
::All the time you failed to explain why you think the standard is broken. It's obvious that you don't like it, but what are your reasons? You should read more carefully too, I already explained why I haven't fixed Luigi's or Toad's pages. And I know you said you COULD be the only person allowed to edit the page, but assuming that is ridiculous enough. This is community work. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 17:06, 19 November 2009 (EST)
::All the time you failed to explain why you think the standard is broken. It's obvious that you don't like it, but what are your reasons? You should read more carefully too, I already explained why I haven't fixed Luigi's or Toad's pages. And I know you said you COULD be the only person allowed to edit the page, but assuming that is ridiculous enough. This is community work. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 17:06, 19 November 2009 (EST)
:::Failed to explain to you why the standard is broken? For starters that was largely covered in the proposal you seemed to think you know so much about. If you recall the reason the proposal was taken away was because of the BROKEN STANDARD. How can you even act like the standard is not broken? Just go to my talk page and see what walkazo said. There's your explanation. Ridiculous huh? Regardless of the fact this is a community wiki and a group effort, "I" "ME" "FOREVERDAISY09" am largely and "majorly" responsible for this page and many others relating to it in many manners of speaking. I have hundreds more contributions to this article than even the next user.

AND, the idea that you don't understand why this standard is broken is literally laughable. I'm done discussing this with you, as long as we're pretty clear on our differences, and of course, the things you don't understand. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]

I think both of you need to calm down, I mean seriously. It's quite obvious that you two have some type of personal conflict or whatever and if this edit that mashed all of the information into a complete pile of mess was just out of spite then, TimeQ, you really need to grow up (If your feud is in fact the cause). 
Anyway, I will agree with FD09 that your changes to follow such an unorganised standard of character page layouts was an extremely poor decision, especially considering Princess Daisy's page was laid out in an extremely well-structured manner prior to today's edit.
FD09, I think your sense of ownership over this page is causing you to overreact somewhat so maybe you should just cool off for a while..? I mean, you don't really own this page. The wiki community has every right to edit it.

To wrap things up, this entire Wiki in general is a mess and I think, TimeQ, that you and the other Admins/Mods/whatever you are need to really come up with a good, and organised method of arranging these pages. FD09's proposal was a great idea and I don't know why it was revoked but this place needs to change. 
I am willing to offer my complete assistance if it's ever needed for restructuring if there is ever a decision to change the format. [[User:Toadine|Toadine]]
:As far as I recall the Proposal was nullified not because the idea was bad, but because we already had many structure-changing proposals over the time, which causes the wiki to follow four different organisation methods. The editors' concerns should be to uniformate all articles to one standard, rather than adding a fifth organisation pattern into the mess. If I remember this correctly, then that was what caused the proposal's reversion. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 17:23, 19 November 2009 (EST)
::If you need your memory jotted, go to my talk page and walkazo's talk page and look at the discussion about it. I'm literally right now trying to tell walkazo that we need to make a new standard that does make everything work. That's what I've BEEN saying. I easily agreed to work on it, and that it could be done. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]

I will not continue this discussion here. It has nothing to do with this specific article anymore. We should move it to the forums or our talk pages. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 17:19, 19 November 2009 (EST)

Wait a minute. Since when did the Manual of Style become an enforced policy?--{{User:Knife/sig}} 18:14, 19 November 2009 (EST)
:<s>If the Manual of Style is not an enforced policy, what is it then?</s> Anyway, what is written in the Manual of Style was decided through a proposal, so basically it is an enforced policy. (Edit: Now I see what you meant. Still, the proposal still counts, so it's policy.) {{User:Time Q/sig}} 18:17, 19 November 2009 (EST)

Shouldn't we create separate page for organization, since that part is enforced?--{{User:Knife/sig}} 18:49, 19 November 2009 (EST)
:Hm, I think so... or just make the Manual of Style an enforced policy. I was surprised to read that it wasn't already enforced. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 19:00, 19 November 2009 (EST)

== Cultural impact ==
I see that section incomplete with a under-construction label on it. It has passed a long time for somebody to help us with this and if we cannot fill that section then, I-ma afraid I gonna to unfeature the article by having a single section empty! D: {{User:Coincollector/sig}}
:Pft, what? You'd have to unfeature it for having a single section that's incomplete? Regardless, it would be pretty stupid, no offense, to unfeature the article rather than temporarily remove the section. I'm just taking my time is all. There'll be some stuff there soon. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]
::Stupid? not sir, A featured article MUST not include any improvement label on it like rewrite, stubs, picture-needed or under-construction, meaning that the article is incomplete of sort. We have enough time to complete that info, but leaving it long enough, it is likely I have to unfeature the article for a single but significant defect. {{User:Coincollector/sig}}
:Okay, you clearly don't get it. It would be silly to remove her article from featured status, temporarily even, just because one section is presently flawed. The point isn't even that though, the point is you could simply remove this section temporarily so as to solve this minor issue. Yet you seem to think going as far as removing the article from featured status is the answer. Do you get it? Look, just contact me if you plan to do something "brash" and make sure I get back to you on it first, because I'll remove it myself for the time being if that's what it takes to satisfy your reasoning. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]

What about this issue now? The discussion has died, yet the problem remains. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 10:22, 5 February 2010 (EST)

Well now the section is finished so. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|ForeverDaisy09]] 03:24, 16 March 2010 (EDT)

== Quotes section for Daisy's article ==

I've been checking through this section of the article, and with all due respect - I find it to be overly long. Before I attempt to do maintenance on this, aren't a majority of those same quotes on other "List of Quotes" articles for the Mario game articles themselves here? --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 14:32, 11 December 2009 (EST)

I wouldn't really know consideirng those articles "suck" and last time I checked them they didn't have Daisy's quotes. lol Explain this to me though, since when did you figure there was a limit to the size of the quotes section? [[User:ForeverDaisy09]]

: I didn't say there was a limit; I was hoping to keep the "more memorable" ones in regards to Daisy's persona. And there are a few that need to be spared, obviously. Right now, it's like a HUGE database of every single quote that Daisy has said in the game installments, the majority being something that just about <i>any</i> character in the Mario series would say. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 21:30, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:Alright, as long as the articles actually have the quotes you remove and you keep the good ones I don't see an issue. [[User:ForeverDaisy09]]

== Remark ==

I'd like a remark made that, despite being a regular character in spinoffs, Daisy has not been in a regular Mario game since Super Mario Land. [[User:WarioLand|WarioLand]] 17:55, 19 January 2010 (EST)

No duh, what's your point? She's doing a lot more in the spin-offs than she would be if she randomly appeared as an NPC in a mainstream game. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]

I've got to disagree, she's pretty regular. If she didn't appear in a spinoff, there would be some question of why, since she's been a playable character in some many for awhile now. That's what we mean when we say 'regular'. If you want her to get kidnapped again, if that's what you mean, then no, she's not regular, but we're refering to the spinoffs. [[User:Daisysbiggestfan|Daisyisbetter]]

==Stronger than Mario==

I was playing Mario Party 3 and I noticed somthing.Before you enter a duel with Daisy,Bowser appears to steal the stamps.But then,Daisy takes Bowser by the tail with one hand and throw him far away.But,in SM64,Mario has to take him by the tail with two hands to throw him.Does that mean Daisy is stronger than Mario?{{User:Mr bones/sig}}

It's variable. Daisy is stronger than Mario depending on the sport, and same with Mario. It's not something you can just say Daisy is stronger than Mario though. Unlike with Mario and Luigi Daisy hasn't been stated to be stronger than Mario and vice versa. So it's as of now for the player to form an opinion on. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|ForeverDaisy09]] 08:05, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, plus Daisy hasn't been kidnapped since Super Mario Land and we don't know why that is (my theory is she keeps sports equipment in her closet), and she also only appears in ''Mario'' spin-offs so we don't know if she does any training. [[User:J-Yoshi64|J-Yoshi64]] [[User Talk:J-Yoshi64|(talk)]]

== I Weigh How Much? ==
So this has bothered me for a while. I have seen places say that in Mario Kart DS Daisy is a medium as well as places that say she is a light. This is confusing because when I checked the stats of her cars they were qualifiable to the lightweight category, and they might have been lighter than Peach's if I remember correctly. But why is it even on unofficial Japanese translations it has been said she was in the medium class. Facts people? [[User:ForeverDaisy09|ForeverDaisy09]] 07:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:[[Nintendo]] can't make their mind up.--[[User:Launchballer|Launchballer]] 07:59, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::Well, her acceleration, speed, and weight are around the same stats if you look in the game. I checked, and she wasn't exceptionally well at anything except for drifting. Two of her kart's stats in acceleration, speed, and weight are in about the same area. Her stats seem to be a little bit lower than Mario and Luigi's but she has high drifting.

::Also, the reason I said speed, acceleration, and weight is because those stats differentiate between classes majorly, but not drifting and items. I'm not sure about handling, but I think Lightweights get the better handling. 

{{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}

:She is a middleweight character. I saw via MKDS japanese website... {{User:Coincollector/sig}} Light characters has a light color tone, medium a medium tone, and heavy a strong tone.
::I assume you're referring to Nintendo Japan's website for ''Mario Kart DS''? Because I surely overlooked that part. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 16:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

In GameFAQs, I saw at least two FAQs that stated that Daisy is a middle-weight character. Usually, the person who writes the FAQ is correct.{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 22:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually those faq tend to make mistakes, but people have already explained an official source listed her as medium so no one really needs reply anymore. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|ForeverDaisy09]] 03:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

== Movie ==
I cant edit this page for some reasons but I just want to point out there is no section about her movie appearance. She plays quite a large part in the Super Mario Bros. Movie I'm surprised its not here especially when characters like Yoshi have sections on it [[User:Don Lark Kiin|Don Lark Kiin]] 21:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:The article has been protected so that only autoconfirmed users (users some number of days old) can edit it. And as to the section, it is located at [[Princess Daisy (film)]] - there was a proposal to split it. {{User|Marioguy1}}
::Maybe a small section using the main article template should be added because I think this page is where people would go if they wanted information on the character (god knows why anyone would though) [[User:Don Lark Kiin|Don Lark Kiin]] 13:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
A bit late but I wanted to point out that the film's Princess Daisy is the counterpart to the video game Princess Toadstool. Having spoken with the actual writer for the film I can confirm this. So a small section would do well on Princess Peach's article, but I don't think a mention is merited here. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 23:30, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
:Problem is that said info would be under "Other Media" -- and the Princess Peach article is mainly to target Peach's involvement in the main Mario series itself. However, I don't think it would hurt to place it in the movie article if it hasn't been mentioned already. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 01:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it would hurt to write about her appearance in the movie; she still has the same name and in the movie her and Luigi are in love like in the regular games (although more Luigi than her) so it's not entirely pointless.

== Mario Sports Mix (Princess Daisy's involvement) ==

Okay, so we know that ''Mario Sports Mix'' just got released in Japan; I just made changes to existing info so that it can reflect this release in regards to Daisy. However, is anyone on the case of getting the Japan version so that we can get the rest of the facts so that we can add the respective section about Daisy's participation in ''Mario Sports Mix'' itself? Let's get to it! --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 19:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

==Mario Hoops 3-on-3 alternate outfit==

Shouldn't we add something abourt Daisy's alternate outfit from Mario Hoops 3-on-3 under the clothing section?

[[User:Tails777|Tails777]]

: I don't think we should; it's best to stick with the main outfits she wears in sports installments. It's fine as it is. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 21:18, 3 February 2011 (EST)

Actually, I meant kinda merge it into her sports outfit rather than a new section. I know that it would be useless to make a whole new section on an outfit she only wore once. So what I'm saying is to put a little info about it under the sports outfit. Scince it also appears in Mario Sports Mix, I think we should add it under the sports outfit section.

{{User|Tails777}}


Hm, I THOUGHT this outfit was described on her page. The mention must've gotten removed somewhere between updating her outfit info. I'll add info about it. [[User:UhHuhAlrightDaisy|UhHuhAlrightDaisy]] 14:38, 17 February 2011 (EST)

== Daisy's Trivia ==

The Birthstone on the Trivia, are you sure about that? I was born in April myself and I'm pretty sure the gem is Diamond. Sapphire is for September, and well, sapphire is incredibly blue. The emblem's like blue-green (turqoise w/e).
{{unsigned|Lavender}}

Well it said it was talking about the earlier games, where it wasn't green but blue, but you're right it's a diamond for April. [[User:UhHuhAlrightDaisy|UhHuhAlrightDaisy]] 00:09, 16 February 2011 (EST)

== Tomboy ==

I'm not sure she can be described as a tomboy. She does have a lot of energy, but she is much more girly then boyish.
{{unsigned|John Galt}}

No. First of all that is your personal opinion. Secondly it has been a stated fact since her debut that she is a tomboy. [[User:UhHuhAlrightDaisy|UhHuhAlrightDaisy]] 04:57, 16 May 2011 (EDT)

== Statues ==
Should we add to the "Luigi" section of "Relationships with Other Characters" that there is a statue of Daisy and Luigi dancing, as well as another with their baby counterparts? As the course is owned by Daisy, it proves that not only does Luigi show feelings for Daisy, she does the same for him. Seems quite notable to me. {{User:YL/sig}} 03:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

:Not really. It's implied that Daisy is to Luigi but is not 100% confirmed. The statue features Daisy and Luigi dancing but apparently not in love, the same with Baby Daisy with Baby Luigi, but this doesn't go to the case because we're talking about ''adult'' Daisy here. {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

::Shouldn't be changed that Daisy is the sister or cousin of Peach, because it does say on the offical Nintendo Mario Kart Wii guide that Daisy is the sister of Peach. Also I do agree with YL that Daisy and Luigi do have a strong relationship it's exactly like Mario and Peach's relationship. It doesn't really work for their baby counterparts. Why won't Nintendo admit that; they should really stop hateing on Luigi. 

{{User:NintendoLuigiGuy}}  00:24, 21 September 2011 (EDT)

It does not say she is the sister. It says she is her cousin though. Which I thought I saw a mention of? [[User:Tomba|Tomba]] 15:09, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

== Mario is Missing! ==

[[Media:Example.ogv]] in the game, there is an unknown women who resembles Daisy quite a bit so that might be worth writting about. http://www.freewebs.com/superprincessdaisy/Daisy%20in%20mario%20missing.jpg{{unsigned|Supergoomba}}
:First off, why did you post [[Media:Example.ogv]]? {{User:Nintendo64Fan/sig}}
Lol I didn't mean to, it just appeared there so just forget about it, I don't even know what it is.

I think it might be best to write it down in the trivia section along with the provided image. While the woman strongly resembles Daisy, we have no proof as to saying whether it actually is her (for all we know it can be just be an incorrectly coloured Peach). Her similarity to the character is best worth noting down in the trivia (even with no provided evidence). {{User:Propeller Toad/Sig}} 13:30, 13 November 2011 (EDT)

well i want to add it to trivia, but '''the page doesn't allow editing''' >:o

I added the information into the trivia along with a proper uploaded version of the image. {{User:Propeller Toad/Sig}} 17:37, 13 November 2011 (EDT)

It is possible that it is Daisy. I've played the game and I saw another information girl that looked like Princess Peach. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

Lol, well yeah it might be her. That's kinda what we were just talking about. I've heard about the Peach thing too and saw a picture of her.

Man, there is '''QUITE''' a resemblance isn't there? I think that maybe we should list it as a cameo, and put the picture in her gallery? Makes sense to me since it's '''CLEARLY''' a Daisy cameo!

--{{User:Pichi-Hime6/sig}} 11:09, 19 November 2011 (EST)

I believe this specific screen was edited. I think the original had the woman in a blue dress. However, that does match the coloration Daisy was limited to in NES Open Tournament Golf. [[User:Tomba|Tomba]] 15:08, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

It looks a lot like Daisy. Hmmmmmmm......Try going to [[Mario is Missing!]] and see what clues are there.. [[File:PaperMario Items Mystery.png]]

-[[File:Daisy-MH3on3.gif|link=]][[User:Daisyluigi345|<span style="font-family:;color:orange"><big><big><big>'''Daisy'''</big></big></big><span style="color:green"><big><big><big>'''Luigi'''</big></big></big></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Daisyluigi345|Talk to me!]])

== We've got a "Latest Game Appearance" problem here... ==

Okay, heads-up to all of us who are supporters of Daisy for this article -- we've got a conflict. In Japan, we've got two installments that have been released at the same time for Peach, appearance wise -- ''Mario Kart 7'' and ''Fortune Street''. Question is, do we put in MK7, Fortune Street, or both? Let discuss this so that we can figure out what to do in regards to the ''Latest Game Appearance'' change for our lead Mario girl here. Thanks! --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 22:10, 30 November 2011 (EST)

:Could we put both appearances there? {{User:Tails777/sig}}

:: That's what I'm leaning toward, but let wait for more input from other Daisy supporters of this article before I proceed with the change (if not tonight, then during the course of tomorrow). --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 22:13, 30 November 2011 (EST)

:: All right, the change has now been done; just snagged the time to do this. Issue now closed. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 11:11, 1 December 2011 (EST)

== Retro Crown Color ==

Other than we know that Daisy now wears a golden crown like Peach as of ''[[Mario Party 4]]'' when they had a major redesign (though Peach's major redesign was first in ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'', but without the sleeves in that game), when we're talking about her retro design before ''Mario Party 4'', saying that her crown was red......well since crowns are metallic and of crystalline substances, I think it makes better sense to say that her crown in her retro design was ruby, which we know is metallic/crystalline red color or tone. --[[User:PrincessDaisyFanatic3883|PrincessDaisyFanatic3883]] 02:26, 29 February 2012 (EST)

Well, we really have no evidence that her crown was made out of ruby. So it is better to just say it was red. Besides, I don't think it matters what the crown was made of. it's color is red, so we say it's red.

--{{User:Pichi-Hime6/sig}} 18:31, 2 March 2012 (EST)

:: Per this, plus I don't think is really is ''that'' important to have that difference mentioned in the article itself, even though the details mentioned are possibly valid based on images of Daisy I've seen. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 22:05, 2 March 2012 (EST)

== Daisy power in Mario Golf Toadstool Tour ==

It is stated in the article that in her star form, Daisy has a distance of 275 yards, but actually it is 270. [[User:Cirdec|Cirdec]] ([[User talk:Cirdec|talk]]) 09:24, 26 August 2012 (EDT)

== Wrong Chinese name ==

The Chinese company attached to Nintendo, iQue gave the Chinese traslation "菊花公主"  (Jú Huā Gōng Zhǔ)， not 公主雏菊
Gōng Zhǔ Chú Jú  [[User:Youquzhiji|Youquzhiji]] ([[User talk:Youquzhiji|talk]])


== I want to discuss it out ==

I got my edit undone by MeritC and Marshall Dan Troop because it seemed awkwardly placed and should go on Baby Daisy's page. I want to know why it was awkward. --{{User:A Paragoomba and the Koopa Bros./sig}} 17:29, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

==Voice Actor==
in her voice actor sextion it says deanna mustard voiced her after mario golf toadstool tour. this is wrong, deanna mustard did not voice her in Mario Party 5 which came after toadstool tour.{{unsigned|99.90.61.135}}

== Daisy in Mario Kart 8 ==

If you go to the Mario Kart 8 page gallery, you can see her in the background in some pictures.
{{unsigned|74.190.239.18}}
:She's confirmed ever since Mario Kart 8 is unveiled. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:00, 6 January 2014 (EST)

== Another Cameo???!!!?? ==

Listen guys, I found this picture of what is believed to be [[Rosalina]] and [[Princess Daisy]] in the animated film, Wreck it Ralph. Anyone see anything familiar??
[[File:Daisy rosalina cameo.jpg]]

 I dunno. It might just be a rumor.

-[[File:Daisy-MH3on3.gif|link=]][[User:Daisyluigi345|<span style="font-family:;color:orange"><big><big><big>'''Daisy'''</big></big></big><span style="color:green"><big><big><big>'''Luigi'''</big></big></big></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Daisyluigi345|Talk to me!]])

Well, they don't look alike. They probably made those character's up for the movie. Does anyone know if those "princesses" are real video game character's?--[[User:CastleResearch|CastleResearch]] ([[User talk:CastleResearch|talk]]) 11:39, 4 March 2014 (EST)

By the way, you could upload better image of that screenshot like say in HD quality to know for sure who those characters are since this one is not very good as you can barely see their faces. Just a thought...--[[User:CastleResearch|CastleResearch]] ([[User talk:CastleResearch|talk]]) 15:44, 4 March 2014 (EST)

== Clothing ==

It says that her crown's jewels in the back and front are red. Doesn't her crown have her motifs in the front and back while in the sideways have two rubies(or red, whatever...)
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::Yep, you are right. What is the section stating the crown?I can fix it[[File:AshleySmooth.png|35px]] [[User:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=black><big>'''Ashley'''</big></font>]][[User talk:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=red>(<small>and Red</small>)</font>]] [[File:Ashley WarioWare Touched.png|35px]]
The clothing section, please.--[[User:CastleResearch|CastleResearch]] ([[User talk:CastleResearch|talk]]) 14:29, 6 March 2014 (EST)


Please remove the code box. it stretches the page and is uneccessary.

also, put in trivia dihso was in nintendo's mario golf world tour video BY HERSELF
:What code box?
:Are you Michaeloll from GameFAQs???? {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:38, 13 March 2014 (EDT)

== Daisy's Talking ==

"''A unique trait she retains is using slang and speaking with various accents. She has repeatedly used one-liners like, "yeah-hoo," said in dixie accent, and even, "yo," in an urban accent. She also has a sassy side and tends to stand idle with arms-akimbo. She is prone to air-kisses coupled with uttering, "mwah," during victory celebrations, and in the past has shown-off to get her way.''"

I don't agree that these sentences should stay because it's really over-analyzing. "Dixie" accent? "Urban" accent? These don't sound like accents; they sound like just little noises Daisy makes, and assuming that Daisy speaks with several accents just because of those little interjections is thinking too much. "Arms-akimbo"? That doesn't say anything about her personality, although gestures such as crossing-arms, hands clutched and behind the body, can tell about the feelings, but it still doesn't show personality anyhow. Again, I don't think this information should stay. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:26, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

If it stays, it'll need much better wording. {{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 01:32, 5 April 2014 (EDT)
:I'm trying to not engage in an edit war here, but I don't like it in its current state. {{User:Mario/sig}} 02:41, 5 April 2014 (EDT)

See this is the thing that I mentioned before, though. She doesn't just do this in the form of interjections. The thing was, though, that just because you don't know of the situations that display these traits, doesn't mean it isn't so. And the problem is, the small points used are all this wiki appropriately allows for. The one-liners DO contribute to this because of the fact there are more detailed ways she has done it that can't be drawn out in the description because that would be over-explaining and putting too much detail into it. I could show you this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Q-YTY7H9c In this video you can see her displaying the Urban slang "Uh-huh, alright, DAISY" while brushing off her shoulders, acting sassy, "Hot stuff!" she feels the heat of herself and exclaims "yyeah!" And how she stands and gestures has A LOT to do with her personality, because her demeanor is all about what her personality reads and how she evokes that. She is common to have her hands on her hips, to gesture a certain way that shows off all the aspects of her personality even in a still artwork as used in the section. But to over-explain it like I'm doing now in the article itself is just inappropriate for the wiki, so instead it's written as a concise, short list of minor examples because it's not there to prove a point or to convince you of anything. It shouldn't have to because it's only there to state something based on these facts, not restate and reverify them for you personally. On one hand you say it's over-analyzing, on the other there isn't enough reasoning there for you to consider it valid. You are contradicting yourself, so it just seems like you have a problem with the very idea the article gets to say she has a personality or something. "bite me if you dare?" Go bite yourself. [[User:UhHuhAlrightDaisy|UhHuhAlrightDaisy]] ([[User talk:UhHuhAlrightDaisy|talk]]) 15:17, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

Bringing this up again, this statement is problematic: "A unique trait she retains is using various American English accents and slang. She has repeatedly used one-liners said in a Dixie accent, Valleyspeak, and even Ebonics." This qualifies as confusing jargon, which is generally discouraged (even though it's not specifically outlined in [[MarioWiki:Good writing]], but I'd still say it's flirting with "reading between the lines"). The most we can conclude from her interjections alone is that she's excitable and loud, that's really all there is to her speech. There's no need to add that she has an American accent because Peach probably has one too and same thing for anyone who is in the Mario cartoons. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:21, 20 August 2015 (EDT)
:Update: It's been removed. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 21:53, 20 August 2015 (EDT)

== Re-feature? ==

So we've edited most of the details, pictures, sections, breaks, and flowery fluff that was needed for Daisy's requirements. She was recently unfeatured. I know we ''just'' changed it, but can we re-feature this article? {{User:DaisyLuigi/sig}}
:The article cannot be improved because that would be straying into the precious, exclusive property of one particular user. {{User:Mario/sig}} 03:18, 16 May 2014 (EDT)

So who was the numb skull who decided to revert Daisy's main picture as that derpy af old looking one?

AT LEAST put back up the mario party 8 artwork or even the mario kart 7 portrait of her!

Or even a DIHSO instead of her in that old dress.

long storybook short [rosalina's sucks], daisys picture should be more modern than this eye-sore ancient piece of crap image
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:Boo-hoo. And what the f*ck is a "DIHSO"? {{User:Mario/sig}} 03:18, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
::I think it stands for "Daisy In Her Sports Outfit"... [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:16, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Give me a break. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:03, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
::::If you want it changed, create a ---ing account and get it autoconfirmed and discuss it because bitching and moaning about minor changes like this won't get you anywhere. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:08, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
::::It don't matter because the edits are going to be reverted anyway. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:09, 16 May 2014 (EDT)

== Why Daisy's Main Page artwork is still Outdated? ==

: Daisy's artwork was updated way back in 2011 (Mario Kart 7) to Match the current Renders of the rest of the characters. This artwork has a solo version (Without the car) that has been used in tons of promotionals and most recently , in MP10 that was released just yesterday. So Why Daisy's artwork is still MP8'S While , Mario , Luigi , Peach and even Toadette have their MP10 Artwork now?--[[User:Swiftie Luma|Swiftie Luma]] ([[User talk:Swiftie Luma|talk]]) 13:36, 12 March 2015 (EDT)--[[User:Swiftie Luma|Swiftie Luma]] ([[User talk:Swiftie Luma|talk]]) 13:36, 12 March 2015 (EDT)

== Princess Daisy was NEVER voiced by Kate Flemming with proof ==

It was actually Jessica Chisum who originally voiced Daisy
She was credited for her. Sources
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0276320/?ref_=nm_knf_i1

http://toposwopetalent.com/talent/7604/jessica-chisum/ {{unsigned|WaluigiWarrior}}

: It was corrected in the [[List of Mario Tennis (Nintendo 64) staff]] page, like two years ago. Good thing that you updated this in the "Portrayals" section recently.  - {{User:Infinite8/sig}} 03:46, 9 June 2017 (EDT)

==MKA:GP DX==
The section for Daisy in [[Mario Kart Arcade GP DX]] is missing. Can someone add it? <span style="color:green">[[User:B ron 3000|'''B ron''']] [[User talk: B ron 3000|'''3000''']]</span> [[File:MP9 Luigi Icon.png|x35px]]  22:22, 6 August 2017 (EDT)

==Hey i found a grammar error and Daisy doesn't deserve that can someone please edit it==

http://i67.tinypic.com/2nw0umt.png

see it should say "where there is" not "where is"
please edit this daisy deserves proper grammar on her page

14:16, 17 October 2017 (EDT)[[User:Celastrina|Celastrina]] ([[User talk:Celastrina|talk]]) 14:16, 17 October 2017 (EDT)celastrina
:Fixed it. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 14:18, 17 October 2017 (EDT)

::With all due respect, there was nothing stopping you from editing it yourself. That's what wikis are for...anyone can edit. You could have fixed it yourself, just so you know. Also, with further respect, is saying things like "deserves proper grammar" even necessary? It doesn't seem to achieve anything. [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 15:36, 17 October 2017 (EDT)
:::The page is protected against non-autoconfirmed users. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2017 (EDT)
::::Oh, OK. Still doesn't explain the "deserves proper grammar" part. [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 10:17, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
:::::Don't all the pages on the wiki deserve proper grammar? They're clearly a Daisy fan. Nothin'  wrong with that. [[User:UhHuhAlrightDaisy|UhHuhAlrightDaisy]] ([[User talk:UhHuhAlrightDaisy|talk]]) 10:37, 18 October 2017 (EDT)

== Where did this came from? ==

In the personality section, it says "Daisy is portrayed as willing to put friendships and other interests aside when it comes to sports and competitions; she also hates losing and trains hard to win. She likes to go shopping and dine at fine restaurants but gladly passes up such enjoyments to train, instead."

Althought I know for sure the first part is partially true (various of her losing animations in sports games shows her angry at losing), I cant remember where the rest of the info came from. I dont remember any in-game statement of she liking to dine at restaurants and even less of giving up on it for training. {{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}} 08:20, 26 January 2018 (EST)
:One of the Olympic games. From the official profiles sub-page:
===Flag Description (Wii U version)===
====Daisy====
*The peppy princess of Sarasaland is having a blast at the Olympic Games! In her downtime, she plans to chow down at fine restaurants and maybe get a little shopping in with Peach.
:And there you have it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 08:42, 26 January 2018 (EST)
::Oh, thanks for the info! Didnt know that.{{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}

== information We Don't have. ==

There's some Offical info on a Different Which has info about Princess Daisy's Relationships (Mainly about Luigi) That We Don't have. am i allowed To Put The Wiki's Link Here or is that only For Wikis that are Related To this one Like Donkey Kong Wiki and SmashWiki? {{User|LUIGIRULES71}} 23:57, 3 February 2018 (EST)

:What's the link? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:45, 4 February 2018 (EST)
::To The Wiki? {{User|LUIGIRULES71}} 04:35, 4 February 2018 (EST)
:::Unless you're referring to a different link, yes. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:06, 4 February 2018 (EST)
::::Here. http://we-are-daisy.wikia.com/wiki/Daisy%27s_Relationships {{User|LUIGIRULES71}} 07:49, 4 February 2018 (EST)
:::::That is a fan wiki and is not a reliable source of information, though much of it is derived from in-game content and descriptions, and any information like that can simply be added to the article, so linking/referencing this is unnecessary anyway.

:::::And you don't need to sign your name three times. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:29, 4 February 2018 (EST)

:::Oh Really? i Thought it Was interesting Because it had information about The Nintendo World Store in 2013 Where Luigi Was asked about Daisy. {{|LUIGIRULES71}} [[User:LUIGIRULES71|LUIGIRULES71]] ([[User talk:LUIGIRULES71|talk]]) 19:59, 5 February 2018 (EST)

==How many games Daisy has appeared in doesn't matter==
Statements such as "With the frequent release of ''Mario'' installments, Daisy has been in over 60 video games so far, the most of any female character besides [[Princess Peach]]." in the intro are meaningless without any further context. Daisy having the second most appearances in video games for a female character is not an important statement to make, since this statement ultimately conflates that her playable character roster role in many small subseries has any sort of meaningful legacy and impact as video games as a whole-this statement in the intro does make a comparison with other female characters in the video games in the first place-when arguably Daisy's appearances as part of a character roster in a Mario spin-off does not. The only reason Peach has this statement is because she's an iconic, recognizable video game icon who has the history behind her to justify statements of her appearances in video game titles. You can essentially make the same statement with Donkey Kong is the most playable gorilla, Yoshi is the most playable dinosaur, etc; all which are technically accurate, but nothing noteworthy in an article. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:00, 16 March 2018 (EDT)

I think it's worth mentioning, because Daisy has not just appeared in just a lot of games, she has appeared in a variety of them. This includes being playable in large blockbuster titles such as Smash Bros and Mario Kart and Mario Party etc. for years, and she complements Peach like Luigi does Mario, offering a different personality. --[[User:Memoryman3|Memoryman3]] ([[User talk:Memoryman3|talk]]) 10:59, 14 February 2019 (EST)

==Remove the Peach is Daisy's cousin part in the wiki==
A lot of controversy has happened regarding Peach and Daisy due to Prima's misinformation of Daisy being Peach's cousin being in their books. Oddly, this information has been stuck on the wiki without ever being verified, but I have took time to purchase one of these books. The page number is 29 from the Double Dash strategy book, BUT... the first page of this strategy guide says as follows "The first page has a disclaimer: "the publisher makes no warranty, either expressed or implied, as to the *ACCURACY*, effectiveness, or completeness of the material in THIS book; nor ... assume liability for damages, ..., that may result from using information this book." Basically, they're saying that misinformation can appear in the book and they will not be held accountable for them. So I think it's best if the misinformation would be removed to prevent further confusion.

If you need picture proof, you can find it here: https://twitter.com/taddlelegacy/status/1011749866509295616
[[User:Ilovecrt|Ilovecrt]] ([[User talk:Ilovecrt|talk]]) 19:22, 26 June 2018 (EDT)
:While true they got it wrong, we still make a note of it...because they got it wrong. Wiki article even says that this hasn't been confirmed, but should still be noted regardless. Thanks for providing a reference for this, though, it was asking for one! {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:27, 26 June 2018 (EDT)
::Anyways, Nintendo Power has proven worse in this sort of regard anyways (NSMB guide, anyone?), so don't act like Prima's the ultimate evil or whatever. I am ''sick'' of people doing that. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:34, 26 June 2018 (EDT)
:::What's wrong with the NSMB guide? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:39, 26 June 2018 (EDT)
::::No idea I didn't see this until now, but it started a long string of misnaming "Sledge Bro" as "Sumo Bro" among other stupid mistakes. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:02, 8 March 2019 (EST)

== Regarding the Princess Daisy promo picture for ''Super Mario Party'' ==
Yeah, I think that we are in a predicament here in terms of the newest promo artwork picture that just surfaced involving Daisy for ''Super Mario Party''. Although the wiki's policy says that we aren't to change the infobox picture to the latest "standard" picture of said character until the game is released, would an exception be placed here (because in this one, Daisy is also winking; and in my honest opinion, the one for ''Mario Party 10'' is still worth having active in the infobox because both of her eyes are open). Other than that, I still ''do'' believe this qualifies to be placed in the main article itself when the time comes, especially in the Personality section, perhaps. --M. C. - [[User:MeritC|Profile]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 12:45, 14 September 2018 (EDT)
:No need to change it right now. New picture can remain in the Gallery for the time being. Though, tbh, the ''Mario Party'' section could probably be reworked. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:24, 14 September 2018 (EDT)
::Uh, I was referring to ''when'' the ''Super Mario Party'' game itself gets released early next month; ''that's'' when we have to decide on if the current infobox picture still stays, or if the majority opinion says it needs to be changed. --M. C. - [[User:MeritC|Profile]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 12:35, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
:I don't see how a wink negates it being good new main art when the previous one is from 2011. It's way too old, so when the game comes out, we should really replace it with this new one. [[User:UhHuhAlrightDaisy|UhHuhAlrightDaisy]] ([[User talk:UhHuhAlrightDaisy|talk]]) 18:06, 14 September 2018 (EDT)
::The thing is that the one we've got now it still a great "standard picture" in terms of representing Daisy herself, so I still think an exception should be made in this case in terms of having that be kept on the article. If anything, though, when the time comes after <i>Super Mario Party</i> gets released, the respective art for Daisy needs to be put someone on the article page itself (I'm still thinking it definitely qualifies for the "Gallery" preview section here). --M. C. - [[User:MeritC|Profile]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 18:26, 3 October 2018 (EDT)
:::I don't see why this is a problem. It's a wink. If anything, it shows her character more. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:32, 3 October 2018 (EDT)
::::@Alex95 and UhHuhAlrightDaisy - I rest my case; upon closer inspection it seems that this said picture is <i>way</i> better than her other "standard" one for the infobox. And I see that someone has just changed it already, infobox wise. But I still think the other picture still qualifies for the gallery preview section; will check into that momentarily. --M. C. - [[User:MeritC|Profile]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 21:21, 4 October 2018 (EDT)

== Smash Bros Ultimate ==

Since Smash Bros. came out, I think the Powers and Abilities section probably needs revising - since we have confirmation that the powers she displayed needed to be approved from the Mario IP team. Daisy was shown to float using her dress in that game. Also, can we remove the hurt-box altering thing? It's so trivial and negligible that it doesn't affect how she plays at all.  --[[User:Memoryman3|Memoryman3]] ([[User talk:Memoryman3|talk]]) 15:16, 13 February 2019 (EST)
:Mario IP team? And the differing hurtboxes should stay, as it's one of the few differences she had between her and Peach. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:18, 13 February 2019 (EST)
Yes. There's an IP team that oversees the character handling and more, for all games a character appears in. It has been mentioned in several interviews, from the Mario and Rabbids team, to Alphadream's lack of original characters in some Mario games, to Camelot talking about how they weren't free to portray Waluigi in any way they like, and even the [http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/07/feature_talking_super_smash_bros_ultimate_with_nintendos_bill_trinen_and_nate_bihldorff Smash Bros team]. As for the hurtbox thing, it's so trivial that it doesn't affect gameplay 99.9% of the time. It's just a result of the differing animations which I already covered in my last revision. --[[User:Memoryman3|Memoryman3]] ([[User talk:Memoryman3|talk]]) 10:54, 14 February 2019 (EST)

== Luigi's Mansion 3 ==

Hello, I was just seeing this page about Daisy and when I scrolled to the list of appearances I saw something very strange, it says that Daisy appear as an artwork for Luigi's Mansion 3 and I was like "WHAT?" I never heard anything about Daisy been referenced in any way in Luigi's Mansion 3. I search this on google and I found nothing, I also went in the gallery and this artwork wasnt there, that makes me think that this might be fake because why this was just labeled in this list in the end of the page, instead of doing a proper paragraph? Princess Daisy is underappreciated character that I personally like very much, if she was referenced in Luigi's Mansion 3 this would be a major thing that needs to be written in this page, so anyone can check about this?
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:If anything, the artwork would be in the Paranormal Productions area, where there's references to other series like Punch-Out and Metroid. But I'm not sure. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:56, July 17, 2020 (EDT)
::From the source that I found for the Daisy appearance (https://mobile.twitter.com/MarioBrothBlog/status/1229877802729660417/photo/1) this is as much of an appearance for Daisy as it is for Wario, Waluigi and Donkey Kong... I really don't think it should count. [[User:Exodecai|Exodecai]]