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==Merge Count Down and Ring-a-Ding as "watch (boss)"==
==Merge Count Down and Ring-a-Ding as "watch (boss)"==
{{Settled TPP}}
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{{Proposal outcome|passed|1-8-5|merge as "Count Down"}}
See above. These are two parts of the same "watch" boss/object, and so, like [[Talk:cake (boss)#Decide how to cut the cake|cake]] and [[Talk:Megasmilax#Axing a Smilax|Smilax]], they ought to occupy the same space.
See above. These are two parts of the same "watch" boss/object, and so, like [[Talk:cake (boss)#Decide how to cut the cake|cake]] and [[Talk:Megasmilax#Axing a Smilax|Smilax]], they ought to occupy the same space.


'''Proposer''': {{User|LinkTheLefty}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|LinkTheLefty}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>July 18, 2024, 23:59 GMT</s> <s>Extended to July 25, 2024, 23:59 GMT</s> Extended to August 1, 2024, 23:59 GMT
'''Deadline''': July 18, 2023, 23:59 GMT
 
===Time for a merge!===
===Time for a merge!===
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Count me in.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Count me in.
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#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Secondary option.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Secondary option.
#{{User|Arend}} See comments.
#{{User|Arend}} See comments.
#{{User|Pseudo}} Per Arend's commments. <strike>(Second choice)</strike> EDIT: Camwoodstock and DrippingYellow's votes have convinced me that this is probably the better of the two options, matching Exor from the same game.
#{{User|Pseudo}} Per Arend's commments.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} A second too soon.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} A second too soon.
#{{User|Blinker}} I'm down. Per, the comments.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} This makes the most sense to us. We merge boss body parts before--see [[Exor]] and his eyes and <s>Neosquid</s> mouth--but "watch" feels bordering on conjecture, as despite Technically™ being from the game itself, the full boss itself is almost never called just "watch" outside of a few status boxes. Count Down is the name more people are going to be familiar with, ergo, we should prioritize that.
#{{User|DrippingYellow}} The remake basically confirms that Count Down is the whole clock, not part of it: the clock itself shakes when the player damages Count Down, and the glossary places the identification arrow for Count Down below the hourglass. The remake also shows that the Ring-a-Dings, though both attached to the clock, are separate entities that talk to each other, though I would personally rather they be merged here due to their hand-in-hand connection with Count Down.
#{{User|Nightwicked Bowser}} My preferred choice.


===Time to clock out!===
===Time to clock out!===
#{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} Nope. To me, watch is just a generic name and not its actual name.
#{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} Nope. To me, watch is just a generic name and not its actual name.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per the comments, it seems reasonable to consider Count Down the name of the boss overall.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per the comments, it seems reasonable to consider Count Down the name of the boss overall.
#{{User|Pseudo}} Per Jdtendo's comments.
#{{User|DrBaskerville}} Per all.
#{{User|DrBaskerville}} Per all.
#{{User|Shoey}} Per all.
#{{User|DryBonesBandit}} Per all.
<strike>#{{User|Pseudo}} Per Jdtendo's comments.</strike>


===Comments===
===Comments===
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Just so we're all on the same page: first option merges Ring-a-Ding and Count Down as "watch (boss)", second option merges Ring-a-Ding and Count Down as "Count Down", and third option keeps Count Down and Ring-a-Ding split. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:45, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
Just so we're all on the same page: first option merges Ring-a-Ding and Count Down as "watch (boss)", second option merges Ring-a-Ding and Count Down as "Count Down", and third option keeps Count Down and Ring-a-Ding split. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:45, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
Do we have internal filenames for Count Down in the Nintendo Switch version of the game, whether it refers to just the hands or the entire body? I feel that would help a lot too. {{User:Arend/sig}} 09:31, July 6, 2024 (EDT)
:Good question. In the <tt>Data/StreamingAssets/aa/Switch/d_assets_</tt> folder, we have <tt>cg_data-character-p1561_mevius.bundle</tt> and <tt>cg_data-character-p1562_ringring.bundle</tt> files, and the former contains the clock sans bells and the latter is just the bell. Note, also, that there exists <tt>cg_data-character-p1517_strawberry.bundle</tt> (top two cake layers), <tt>cg_data-character-p1518_raspberry.bundle</tt> (third/bottom caker layer), <tt>cg_data-character-p1536_tsubomi.bundle</tt> (Smilax bud), <tt>cg_data-character-p1537_queenflower.bundle</tt> (Megasmilax/parts), <tt>cg_data-character-p1557_caribre.bundle</tt> (Exor sword and parts), <tt>cg_data-character-p1558_righteye.bundle</tt> and <tt>cg_data-character-p1560_mouth.bundle</tt> (battle data?). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:25, July 6, 2024 (EDT)

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