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Well then. There has been a bit of a disagreement on whether or not we should resize the sprites in the Mystery Suits table, even resulting in a borderline [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Costume_Mario&oldid=1887731 edit war] (no fingers pointed at anyone). The advantages of not resizing the sprites is that they are more accurate and consistent to, say, ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]''. However, I can say that I can ''barely'' see them in their current size, especially with good old [[Necky the Fox|Necky]] towering over them all. Right now, I would rather resize them slightly, but I'm going to wait to see what you guys think first. | Well then. There has been a bit of a disagreement on whether or not we should resize the sprites in the Mystery Suits table, even resulting in a borderline [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Costume_Mario&oldid=1887731 edit war] (no fingers pointed at anyone). The advantages of not resizing the sprites is that they are more accurate and consistent to, say, ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]''. However, I can say that I can ''barely'' see them in their current size, especially with good old [[Necky the Fox|Necky]] towering over them all. Right now, I would rather resize them slightly, but I'm going to wait to see what you guys think first. | ||
So this bit I'm rewriting, courtesy of Walkazo's suggestions.. This is what the costumes currently look like; | |||
{| class="unsortable" border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=3 style="border-collapse:collapse" | |||
|-style="background: #ABC;" | |||
|bgcolor=silver|[[File:Chibi Robo.PNG|center]] | |||
|} | |||
As you can tell, the background is the wrong colour and it is hard to see. Below are a few possibilities provided by, again, Walkazo. (I had to mash 'em together) | |||
{| border="1" style="float;border-collapse:collapse;background:black;color:white" cellspacing="2px" cellpadding="3px" valign=center align=center | |||
|- | |||
!1x | |||
!2x size | |||
!3x size | |||
!4x size | |||
!100px | |||
|- | |||
|style=background:#6B8CFF|[[File:SMM Sheik.png|center]] | |||
|style=background:#6B8CFF|[[File:SMM Sheik.png|center|30px]] | |||
|style=background:#6B8CFF|[[File:SMM Sheik.png|center|45px]] | |||
|style=background:#6B8CFF|[[File:SMM Sheik.png|center|60px]] | |||
|style=background:black|[[File:SMM Sheik.png|center|100px]] | |||
|} | |||
Now, 100px and 4X is too big. Black is also a bad colour to use, as it still blends in with some characters. The natural size and maybe 2X is, in my opinion, too small. But I think that 3X the size is ''just right'', along with a sky blue background, seen in [[SMB]]. Those who have voted "big" will be informed that this means 100px, and I have added a "Leave it alone" and a "3X" option. Thanks for reading. | |||
'''Proposer''': {{User|Pyro Guy}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Pyro Guy}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': September 28, 2015, 23:59 GMT | '''Deadline''': September 28, 2015, 23:59 GMT | ||
==== | ====Keep the size, change the background.==== | ||
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} I have trouble with my vision (it's about -5.00 in my left eye, which is unable to read the large '''E''' in eye exams, to get the idea of how bad my vision actually is; my right eye has refractive amblyopia on the other hand.) and I can see the sprites perfectly fine. Also, what size do you want them to be? I'll oppose 100px size sprites, simply because they're too huge for small sprites. The reason we leave them this size is the same reason we don't artificially increase the size of 8-bit screenshots or sprites in the wiki; it's because it's not the actual size of the image. We shrink images in order for them not only to actually display them in the page, but to lower the loading times as well. What does making it large does? The main issue with these sprites is not because of their size, but their relatively low contrast they have to the background compared to other sprites, due to a lack of a black outline, like any 8-bit sprite, not because they're small. We don't enlarge any other sprite in this wiki when we display them on their respective pages, neither should we make them large because people can't "see" them. | #<s>{{User|Baby Luigi}} I have trouble with my vision (it's about -5.00 in my left eye, which is unable to read the large '''E''' in eye exams, to get the idea of how bad my vision actually is; my right eye has refractive amblyopia on the other hand.) and I can see the sprites perfectly fine. Also, what size do you want them to be? I'll oppose 100px size sprites, simply because they're too huge for small sprites. The reason we leave them this size is the same reason we don't artificially increase the size of 8-bit screenshots or sprites in the wiki; it's because it's not the actual size of the image. We shrink images in order for them not only to actually display them in the page, but to lower the loading times as well. What does making it large does? The main issue with these sprites is not because of their size, but their relatively low contrast they have to the background compared to other sprites, due to a lack of a black outline, like any 8-bit sprite, not because they're small. We don't enlarge any other sprite in this wiki when we display them on their respective pages, neither should we make them large because people can't "see" them.</s> | ||
#{{User|Roy Koopa}} Big = Blurry. Blurry = Bad. | #{{User|Roy Koopa}} Big = Blurry. Blurry = Bad. | ||
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per Baby Luigi. | #{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per Baby Luigi. | ||
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per Baby Luigi on the consistency across the wiki. | #{{User|Yoshi876}} Per Baby Luigi on the consistency across the wiki. | ||
==== | ====100px, change the background.==== | ||
#{{User|Mariobro101}}I do understand why people would argue how the images should stay the same, but, like {{User|FlamingJumpCat}} & {{User|Corrin}}, I think it should be slightly bigger so you can see all of the details on the sprite without it being blurry as much. Also, when I did edit it yesterday, I put it at 100px, & then I realized that they were too big, so then they were changed back. But, testing out smaller sizes, like I said before, it works well. | #{{User|Mariobro101}}I do understand why people would argue how the images should stay the same, but, like {{User|FlamingJumpCat}} & {{User|Corrin}}, I think it should be slightly bigger so you can see all of the details on the sprite without it being blurry as much. Also, when I did edit it yesterday, I put it at 100px, & then I realized that they were too big, so then they were changed back. But, testing out smaller sizes, like I said before, it works well. | ||
#{{User| | #{{User|ChromStrikes}} I don't get how the bigger ones are blurry? They're literally sharp pixels, there's no blurring in the images at all. | ||
#{{User|Metalex123}} Per all. | #{{User|Metalex123}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|Aokage}} Per all. | #{{User|Aokage}} Per all. | ||
====3X the size, change the background.==== | |||
#{{User|The Pyro Guy}} Per Walkazo in the comments and my proposal. | |||
#{{User|PowerKamek}} Per proposal and Walkazo in comments. | |||
#{{User|FlamingJumpCat}}As I said in the previous discussion, he problem I had with them was that some sprites are barely noticable,Chibi-Robo for example. And I understand that the wiki is meant to be the most reliable native source, but it should also be where people go if they want to clearly see the sprites in all their glory, and not have to zoom in to have a blurry picture or put the sprites in a editor and make them bigger, so I propose to give them an approximate 42px code: Example http://imgur.com/EuCBUeH 13:33, 14 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per all. | |||
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} This is a good compromise. | |||
#{{User|The Super Mario Super User}} Better idea, per all. | |||
#{{User|Corrin}}As I said in the comments, the silver background has got to go. I'm not against 4X the size, but 3X the size is a '''''way''''' better compromise. | |||
#{{User|Tails777}} Per all. | |||
#{{User|Toadbrigade5}} Per all | |||
====Leave it alone.==== | |||
====Comments==== | ====Comments==== | ||
