Editing Talk:Chill Bully

==Chill Bully?==
Since the in-game mission title just calls it a Bully, and this is supported by at least one Japanese guide, should the name of the article be changed to "Bully (Snowman's Land)"? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:15, 5 May 2015 (EDT)
:The Nintendo Power Player's Guide actually uses both interchangeably, but since in-game "Bully" complies with [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable_sources_for_naming|Naming]]... [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:00, 8 May 2015 (EDT)
::Are we sure "Bully" isn't just being used as a shortened form of "Chill Bully" or a generic blanket term for Bullies in general? This feels like moving Koopa Troopa to just "Koopa" or something... [[User:Binarystep|Binarystep]] ([[User talk:Binarystep|talk]]) 01:13, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
:::Why would Big Bully be directly named in a level title but not this one (considering the act of "chilling the Bully" is a clear contrast to "boiling the Big Bully" courses earlier)? That, and [http://www.hit-japan.com/book7/P1360725.JPG at least one Japanese guide] generically uses the Bully term to refer to this Bully, suggesting that the Chill Bully is mainly an odd Nintendo Power invention. [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable sources for naming|Naming]] makes this simple: go with what the game calls it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:30, 9 May 2015 (EDT)

==Name?==
Honestly, this probably should go under "Chill Bully." The game calls it "the Bully" as a generic name, exactly like how it refers to the Whomp King simply as "Whomp," Unagi as "the Eel", and Dorrie as "Swimming Beast in the Cavern." {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} 10:20, 19 July 2017
:I'm in support of it. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 21:22, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
::In support of what? The current name or what I suggested? {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} 10:26, 19 July 2017
:::I support the name "Chill Bully" in place of the current name. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 21:36, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
::::Nintendo Power calls it Chill Bully, so I'm in favor of that. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:48, 9 October 2017 (EDT)
::::I've always liked Chill Bully better. Besides, aren't there other Bullies in Snowman's Land besides this one? If so, it should at least be changed to something like '''Bully (Ice)'''. Does this need a proposal?
::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:50, 9 October 2017 (EDT)
:::::No, there aren't other Bullies. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:54, 9 October 2017 (EDT)

==Move back to Chill Bully==
{{TPP}}

OK, I'm going to try and be as nice as possible here. Anyways, this was moved to "Bully" with an identifier because the game simply refers to it as a Bully. However, it refers to many other things by generic names in mission titles, like [[Chip Off Whomp's Block]], [[Can the Eel Come Out to Play?]], [[Li'l Penguin Lost]], [[Go on a Ghost Hunt]], [[In the Talons of the Big Bird]], [[Swimming Beast in the Cavern]], and [[Pluck the Piranha Flower]]. "Chill Bully" was the name given specifically to this unique Bully by the Player's Guide, and as such, it seems to be the "specific" name.

'''Proposer:''' Doc von Schmeltwick<br>
'''Deadline:''' November 8, 2017, 23:59 (GMT)

===Support===
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per proposal.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per proposal.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Per [[MarioWiki_talk:Naming#Make_an_exception_to_source_priority_for_articles_with_identical_names|this]] proposal.
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Let's make it official via proposal. Per all.
#{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} Per all.
#{{User|Alex95}} - Per all.
#{{User|7feetunder}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Camwood777}} - Let's be cool about this, guys. <font size="1">...what? I can't come up with funny reasons that aren't just the expected "per all"s ''all'' the dang time...</font>
#{{User|Niiue}} Per all.

===Oppose===

===Comments===
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 ::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:50, 9 October 2017 (EDT)
 :::::No, there aren't other Bullies. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:54, 9 October 2017 (EDT)
-::::::He was probably thinking of [[Chief Chilly Challenge]], which does have generic Bullies. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:01, 28 October 2017 (EDT)
-:"Chill Bully" appears on the leaderboard in Mario Golf 64 as well so there actually is a game source for it in addition to Nintendo Power. Obviously this has already been moved by now, just thought I'd point this out for future reference should the issue come up again. [[User:SuperDragonRosalina|SuperDragonRosalina]] ([[User talk:SuperDragonRosalina|talk]]) 15:57, 9 November 2018 (EST)
 ==Move back to Chill Bully==
-{{Settled TPP}}
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-{{Proposal outcome|passed|12-0|Move back to Chill Bully}}
 OK, I'm going to try and be as nice as possible here. Anyways, this was moved to "Bully" with an identifier because the game simply refers to it as a Bully. However, it refers to many other things by generic names in mission titles, like [[Chip Off Whomp's Block]], [[Can the Eel Come Out to Play?]], [[Li'l Penguin Lost]], [[Go on a Ghost Hunt]], [[In the Talons of the Big Bird]], [[Swimming Beast in the Cavern]], and [[Pluck the Piranha Flower]]. "Chill Bully" was the name given specifically to this unique Bully by the Player's Guide, and as such, it seems to be the "specific" name.
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 #{{User|Camwood777}} - Let's be cool about this, guys. <font size="1">...what? I can't come up with funny reasons that aren't just the expected "per all"s ''all'' the dang time...</font>
 #{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
-#{{User|Lcrossmk8}} He is just a stupid ice Bully. That's all that is special about him, and that is all that will ever be special about him. He's JUST a random enemy, for crap's sake! :)
-#{{User|LuigiMaster123}} - Per all.
-#{{User|Bwburke94}} - Per all. Taking a page from Wikipedia's book, it's better to avoid parenthetical disambiguation when we can.
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 ===Comments===
-Considering [[MarioWiki talk:Naming#Make an exception to source priority for articles with identical names|the proposal that just passed]], does this even need a proposal? [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 01:46, 27 October 2017 (EDT)
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-:It hadn't passed when I made it ;) (also I voted against that one, so, uh, yeah.) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:49, 27 October 2017 (EDT)
-::Fair enough. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 01:54, 27 October 2017 (EDT)