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I don't think this is called a Cheep-Chomp. It probably is a [[Big Bertha (fish)]] or a [[Boss Bass]]. It does have one tooth and some shoot [[Baby Cheep]]s just like the two other big fish. The only difference is the color. I think this is too similiar to be a separate specie. I'll leave it for now until someone finds an official name.--[[User Talk:Spike|Spike]][[Image:Spike_sheild_badge.PNG]]

:I believe this is the official name (and as such is a seperate enemy). If someone has the Player's Guide it would be very helpful (as all the enemies in the game are listed in it). -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

::Huh, yeah you are right. According to this [http://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb&param=03&c=1&id=6530 site] it is named "Cheep-Chomp".[[User Talk:Spike|Spike]][[Image:Spike_sheild_badge.PNG]]

If these are Cheep-Chomps, then what are the aquatic Chomps that bite you for one damage when you fall in the water in [[Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door]]? {{User:Dry Paratroopa/sig}}

:[[Nibbles]]. -- {{User|Son of Suns}}

It says in the article they appear in new Super Mario bros Wii.I can't find them anywhere in New Super Mario Bros Wii.--[[User:Swooper888|Swooper888]] 20:38, 25 December 2009 (EST)

Never mind I found them--[[User:Swooper888|Swooper888]] 00:08, 26 December 2009 (EST)

== smaller ones ==

I remember encountering smaller versions of Cheep-Chomps? What game are they in and what are they called? {{User:Toad'ShyGuy/sig}}

==Question==
If Cheep Chomp is a Cheep Cheep, what is that small purple Cheep Cheep? A PORCUPUFFER? --[[User:WhiteYoshi2014|WhiteYoshi2014]] ([[User talk:WhiteYoshi2014|talk]]) 20:43, 1 July 2014 (EDT) "Yoshi Ranger strikes again! Remember kids, only you can prevent burnt Marios."

==Cheep Chomp = Bubba?==
So, as I was searching the Internet for any Japanese names of the enemies that didn't have theirs mentioned here yet, I came across this interesting discovery: Cheep Chomp and [[Bubba]] have the same Japanese name, バクバク (bakubaku) which is onomatopoeia for chomping. It appears that "Bubba" was only a localisation of some kind for Cheep Chomp, which has since ''Super Mario 64'' gone through design changes. The behavior of these two is also similar.

What should be done with this? Merge the two pages or keep them separate with the mention of the possible connection? I mean, I'm not making the proposal yet, still deciding on that. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 05:43, 14 October 2014 (EDT)

:I'd seek a merge since they also practically have the same function/main attack, but a proposal would be best since concensus might instead be that they don't look [[Para-Beetle#Names in other languages|similar]] [[Parabuzzy#Names in other languages|enough]] (although this isn't as big a difference as [[Boom Boom#Names in other languages|some]] [[Bunbun#Names in other languages|others]]). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:01, 14 October 2014 (EDT)

There's something else I forgot to mention: There's also a boss going by a similar name. That boss's English name? [[Bessie Bass]].

So now it's not just "Cheep Chomp = Bubba?", it's "Boss Bass and Big Bertha = Cheep Chomp = Bubba?" That won't be easy to swallow if I make the proposal. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 06:11, 17 October 2014 (EDT)
:According to Japanese Wikipedia, Boss Bass and Big Bertha are "Kyodai Pukupuku" or "Giant Pukupuku" (巨大プクプク), while Bessie Bass is "Big Bakubaku" (ビッグバクバク) - and it also describes Bakubaku as both Bubba and Cheep Chomp, as well as the version of Boss Bass from ''Yoshi's Island DS''. So from this, it seems like Kyodai Pukupuku was its original name, and then it was changed to Bakubaku at some point. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:38, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
:Also, the [[Bub (enemy)|Bub]] enemy from ''Super Mario 64'' is indeed a Cheep Cheep like in the Japanese version and [[Cheep Cheep Chase|their appearance]] in ''Mario Party 3'', which further explains why their designs were "replaced" in ''Super Mario 64 DS''. At the very least, I think that deserves a merge considering they ''were'' called Cheep Cheeps in the English version of the latter game. (I've also checked in [http://honndana.sakura.ne.jp/mario/index.html this extensive ''Mario'' series dictionary], and it reaches the [http://honndana.sakura.ne.jp/mario/dr.cgi?key=509 same] [http://honndana.sakura.ne.jp/mario/dr.cgi?key=2190 conclusion] as the above.) [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:30, 21 October 2014 (EDT)

== Merge Big Bertha, Boss Bass, and Bubba with Cheep Chomp ==

{{TPP}}

That's quite a mouthful, isn't it? Well, it just so transpired that all these enemy characters (more or less) went under the same name in Japan, they're all hungry fish of similar shape and size, and the former three have been dropped out of recent games in favor of the latter. Cheep Chomp is like a unifier of older designs to begin with, so barring some attachment to the original localized names, this makes sense. Speaking of which...

"''They lose their identity if this happens!''"

This is already the case with Big Bertha and Boss Bass's designs being so similar in the first place, as well as Bubba being 'replaced' with a Big Bertha acting more like a Boss Bass in ''Super Mario 64 DS''. For simplicity's sake, placing them all under the same moniker as intended eliminates unnecessary confusion.

"''But Big Bertha and Boss Bass are different genders!''"

I don't think those names are an absolute to go by, and even then, the difference has mainly been extrapolated over their appearance together in one game. The behavior associated with them in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' alone is used to try to ascertain unverified (or possible) appearances. "Cheep Chomp" is more inclusive.

"''Bubba looks different enough!''"

See [http://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Bub_%28enemy%29 Bub].

'''Proposer''': {{User|LinkTheLefty}}<br>
'''Deadline''': January 21, 2015, 23:59 GMT.

===Support===
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Per proposal.

===Oppose===
#{{User|Time Turner}} Big Bertha houses the [[Baby Cheep]]s (SM64DS nonwithstanding), which is a behavior limited solely to that species. I'm uncertain about the other two, but I think that alone is enough for, at least, Big Bertha to be separate.

===Comments===
:Incidentally, in the comments of that Bub proposal, I mentioned I would to limit this to just Big Bertha and Bubba since they occupied the same "slot" in ''Super Mario 64'' (''DS''), but then we'd have to go with Bubba over Big Bertha since it actually shows up in game text, which would cause disparagy. That's part of the reason I think this route, while more encompassing, leads to less convolution. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:34, 7 January 2015 (EST)
/''Super Mario 64 DS