Editing Talk:Cat (parent)

==Name==
It's name is Oyaneko? -- [[User:Bowser64|Bowser64]] ('''[[User Talk:Bowser64|Talk -]]''' '''[[User:Bowser64/Sandbox|Sandbox]]''') 11:54, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
:It's the official Japanese name. [[User:Ma-sansunsun|Ma-sansunsun]] found it and others in the "Super Mario 3D World + Fury World Perfect Guide", which appears to be an official guidebook for the game. - [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] ([[User talk:0blivion|talk]]) 12:28, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
::Famitsu's "Perfect Guide" seems to have been made without Nintendo's involvement. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:35, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
:::Would these names not be counted as official, then? Now I'm not sure if we should keep them up or not. I think they're still a better substitute than the conjectural names. [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] ([[User talk:0blivion|talk]]) 12:57, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
::::Well, in at least [[Talk:Lantern Ghost|one other case]], the unofficial name was outright removed and scan references were deleted. For this article, I think we can instead use the [[Special:Diff/3188497|Japanese Twitter name]]. I guess we can keep the other names but mark them as conjecture until a better source comes along? (Or I suppose someone can look into the [[Talk:Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury#Conjectural names|internal names]] sometime.) [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:54, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
:::::Effectively, I'm not sure if we have updated the naming policy to account for the official sites and Twitter accounts as source for names - these sources are directly controlled by Nintendo so they should be in the same place of the manuals. If we can't find the specific term indicating that the guide was written in collaboration with Nintendo, I guess we should consider giving priority to the Twitter account to be more on the safe side.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:44, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
::::::Sorry, I didn't know about the lack of Nintendo's involvement. Though I'm not sure about using the Twitter name, since as I said it seems to be describing it in generic terms (it doesn't just call it 大きなネコ (''ookina neko'', big cat) but it extends to 泣いている大きなネコ (''naiteiru ookina neko'', crying big cat)). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:28, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
I have an update. [[Special:Diff/3211744#Non-Kōshiki Japanese guides|I]] suspected earlier that "<tt>NekoParent</tt>" was its internal filename, but this was confirmed recently by {{User|Bazooka Mario}}. In fact, this reconfirms a similarity to the names in the "Perfect Guide" (though "fury" seems to be "disaster"). "Neko Parent" may still technically be considered another language due to only half-translating the Japanese, but given that the half-English portion can be reasonably assumed to be more easily understood by the wiki readers and the fact that this is a more verifiable source for us, I motion to change the article title to that. Additionally, we now have a non-conjectural filename source for Fury Cat - "<tt>NekoDisaster</tt>". "Disaster Neko" would be my suggestion for the new article title since that's also decidedly better than the cited Japanese name ("''Kyōbō ni natta neko''"). There is ''Neko Kago'', which is apparently labeled "<tt>DoorLock</tt>" and seems to be a "catified" version of a treasure box. Since the door/chest part seems like either a remnant of an earlier design or a result of asset reuse, I would leave it as Neko Kago since the source looks okay enough. Any objections? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:45, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
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 ::::::Sorry, I didn't know about the lack of Nintendo's involvement. Though I'm not sure about using the Twitter name, since as I said it seems to be describing it in generic terms (it doesn't just call it 大きなネコ (''ookina neko'', big cat) but it extends to 泣いている大きなネコ (''naiteiru ookina neko'', crying big cat)). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:28, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
 I have an update. [[Special:Diff/3211744#Non-Kōshiki Japanese guides|I]] suspected earlier that "<tt>NekoParent</tt>" was its internal filename, but this was confirmed recently by {{User|Bazooka Mario}}. In fact, this reconfirms a similarity to the names in the "Perfect Guide" (though "fury" seems to be "disaster"). "Neko Parent" may still technically be considered another language due to only half-translating the Japanese, but given that the half-English portion can be reasonably assumed to be more easily understood by the wiki readers and the fact that this is a more verifiable source for us, I motion to change the article title to that. Additionally, we now have a non-conjectural filename source for Fury Cat - "<tt>NekoDisaster</tt>". "Disaster Neko" would be my suggestion for the new article title since that's also decidedly better than the cited Japanese name ("''Kyōbō ni natta neko''"). There is ''Neko Kago'', which is apparently labeled "<tt>DoorLock</tt>" and seems to be a "catified" version of a treasure box. Since the door/chest part seems like either a remnant of an earlier design or a result of asset reuse, I would leave it as Neko Kago since the source looks okay enough. Any objections? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:45, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
-==Play Nintendo==
-[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Z-oGuT88A Play Nintendo] called it "cat" in their recent video. [[User:Spectrogram|Spectrogram]] ([[User talk:Spectrogram|talk]]) 11:32, May 6, 2023 (EDT)
-: The page'd have to be Cat (3D World) or something considering how many cat pages we have. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 11:28, November 12, 2023 (EST)
-::I guess it could be "Cat (''Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury'')" or, to be less of a mouthful, "Cat (''Bowser's Fury'')". Third option: we make this the main "Cat" article and move the disambiguation page instead. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:05, March 30, 2024 (EDT)