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| Depsite the other ''Fire Emblem'' characters having canonical surnames, we don't use them. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 05:27, January 17, 2020 (EST) | | Depsite the other ''Fire Emblem'' characters having canonical surnames, we don't use them. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 05:27, January 17, 2020 (EST) |
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| :::::I'll ask Fire Emblem Wiki people directly and see what's up, but yeah, that does help :) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:44, January 17, 2020 (EST) | | :::::I'll ask Fire Emblem Wiki people directly and see what's up, but yeah, that does help :) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:44, January 17, 2020 (EST) |
| ::::::If it helps, I played every routes of Three Houses, and there's not mention in-game where he/she is called "Byleth Eisner", it's only by the name "Byleth" or the name the player give to the character. Eisner is Jeralt's last name (Byleth's father). {{User:LudwigVon/sig}} | | ::::::If it helps, I played every routes of Three Houses, and there's not mention in-game where he/she is called "Byleth Eisner", it's only by the name "Byleth" or the name the player give to the character. Eisner is Jeralt's last name (Byleth's father). {{User:LudwigVon/sig}} |
| :::::::Yeah, Fire Emblem Wiki tells me it's Jeralt's last name, so it'd be Byleth's as well through association. | | :::::::Yeah, Fire Emblem Wiki tells me it's Jeralt's late name, so it'd be Byleth's as well through association. |
| :::::::As for every other Fire Emblem character, none of the other names are canonical afaik. Only Marth has ever been given one, and that was in the tv animation. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:55, January 17, 2020 (EST) | | :::::::As for every other Fire Emblem character, none of the other names are canonical afaik. Only Marth has ever been given one, and that was in the tv animation. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:55, January 17, 2020 (EST) |
| ::::::::Support for moving. {{User:JoeRunner/sig}} 18:14, January 17, 2020 (EST)
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| :::::::::Regarding the ''Three Houses'' roster page, something of interest is how the game handles full names - according to [[tcrf:Fire Emblem: Three Houses#Unseen Full Names|TCRF]], playable characters and major NPCs have each part of their name in separate strings, even if this is not seen during normal gameplay. What's relevant is that, despite some pieces like "von" being reused, Eisner is exclusively coded for Jeralt. This shows that as far as the developers are concerned, the avatar's name is entirely player choice (note that spaces are allowed), with just Byleth being the default label. Factor in that the origin of Eisner is (according to brief research) an {{wp|Surname#Occupational surname|occupational surname}} (Byleth was classed as a commoner, not a noble, and becomes an academy professor early in the story, unlike Jeralt), and as a medieval-style fantasy, ''Fire Emblem'' may not be entirely operating on {{wp|Surname#Modern era|modern}} naming conventions. I'd say that if "Byleth Eisner" doesn't at least show up in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5USF9-BtoY Wave 4] or [[smashwiki:List of tips (SSBU)|''Ultimate'' tips]], the article title should definitely just be Byleth. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:40, January 18, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::::::::Can I just move the page to Byleth?, because it doesnt say Eisner anywhere in the presentation or on the official Smash Ultimate website. {{user|FireyYoshi}}
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| :::::::::::I also support to move this page to "Byleth". {{User:Ninja Squid/sig}}
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| ::::::::::::Support. We don't call "Mario" "Mario Mario", now do we?. [[User:Flogger|Flogger]] ([[User talk:Flogger|talk]]) 13:43, January 19, 2020 (EST)
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| :::::::::::::I support the move. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:55, January 19, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::::::::::::Just moved the page. {{user|FireyYoshi}}
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| :::::::::::::::I'm late to this discussion, but Three Houses characters are the first characters in the Fire Emblem series to have last names in the first place. If you've heard Marth being referred to as "Lowell", that's from the OVA series they released decades ago. It's not canon. The game never uses Byleth's last name in-game because it's deliberately evasive about everything when it comes to them, even when it has no real reason to be. They have a canon age and birthday that has nothing to do with the birthday you give them in-game, yet their profile doesn't even update itself to reflect this. Jeralt's last name is Eisner and he's not an ironworker, so Byleth would have inherited it. In other words, Eisner is Jeralt's last name, and it must be an inherited name, so Byleth's last name is Eisner. There's no real reason not to mention it on the page. [[User:GM 3826|GM 3826]] ([[User talk:GM 3826|talk]]) 07:55, January 20, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::::::::::::::I suggested waiting for the DLC, but until it's directly shown in official capacity, a redirect is fine enough. Besides, last names are not used for every character in ''Three Houses'' - I can point to certain members of the Church of Seiros, for instance, and Byleth's connection to the organization. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:07, January 20, 2020 (EST)
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| What Byleth say during his Star K.O. (both male and female) ?
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| [[Special:Contributions/90.14.5.214|90.14.5.214]] 14:41, February 1, 2020 (EST)
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