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So, there's an enemy that originates from ''The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past'' that would appear to be a reference to Buzzy Beetle. Check out [https://glitterberri.com/the-men-who-made-zelda/ this link] - the relevant portion has a screenshot regarding "[[zeldawiki:Terrorpin|Terrorpin]]s", sourced from page 141 of (first part of) the Shogakukan Guide. It got rearranged in that link somehow, but in the actual guide, it's accompanied with the screenshot of the Chain Chomp above and a fire bar below - overt ''Mario'' references, as it mentions. And indeed, the caption does in fact highlight this reference, but the translator must not have understood the reference to ''Mario'' enemies, because it was mistakenly taken to be the literal onomatopoeia. What it actually says is:「ノコノコでも、パタパタでもなくてパメット。」(''That's neither a Nokonoko nor a Patapata, but a Pamet.'') It other words, it states that it's not a Koopa Troopa or a Koopa Paratroopa, but stops short of outright calling it a Buzzy Beetle. Some kind of allusion was deliberate. Now, Japanese ''A Link to the Past'' was doing this thing where a few alternate names were being used for ''Mario'' creatures (e.g. Chain Chomp was called Kelvin - which didn't stick around - and fire bar was called Guru Guru Bar - which did), so that makes it hard to tell if these were literally supposed to be ''Zelda''-ified Buzzy Beetles under a different name, or if they were variants, or some other type of relative. Also note, ''Zelda'' Spinies, which first appear in ''Link's Awakening'', have similar "flippable" behavior. So that begs the question, should it have its own article like the other ''Mario'' elements in ''Zelda'', or could this be safely covered in this article? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:42, July 21, 2023 (EDT) | So, there's an enemy that originates from ''The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past'' that would appear to be a reference to Buzzy Beetle. Check out [https://glitterberri.com/the-men-who-made-zelda/ this link] - the relevant portion has a screenshot regarding "[[zeldawiki:Terrorpin|Terrorpin]]s", sourced from page 141 of (first part of) the Shogakukan Guide. It got rearranged in that link somehow, but in the actual guide, it's accompanied with the screenshot of the Chain Chomp above and a fire bar below - overt ''Mario'' references, as it mentions. And indeed, the caption does in fact highlight this reference, but the translator must not have understood the reference to ''Mario'' enemies, because it was mistakenly taken to be the literal onomatopoeia. What it actually says is:「ノコノコでも、パタパタでもなくてパメット。」(''That's neither a Nokonoko nor a Patapata, but a Pamet.'') It other words, it states that it's not a Koopa Troopa or a Koopa Paratroopa, but stops short of outright calling it a Buzzy Beetle. Some kind of allusion was deliberate. Now, Japanese ''A Link to the Past'' was doing this thing where a few alternate names were being used for ''Mario'' creatures (e.g. Chain Chomp was called Kelvin - which didn't stick around - and fire bar was called Guru Guru Bar - which did), so that makes it hard to tell if these were literally supposed to be ''Zelda''-ified Buzzy Beetles under a different name, or if they were variants, or some other type of relative. Also note, ''Zelda'' Spinies, which first appear in ''Link's Awakening'', have similar "flippable" behavior. So that begs the question, should it have its own article like the other ''Mario'' elements in ''Zelda'', or could this be safely covered in this article? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:42, July 21, 2023 (EDT) | ||
:I always thought Turtles/Shell Spinner/Terrorpin was based on Buzzy from the name. Since they keep a distinct design well into later games, I think it should stay as a separate entity until further notice. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:14, July 21, 2023 (EDT) | :I always thought Turtles/Shell Spinner/Terrorpin was based on Buzzy from the name. Since they keep a distinct design well into later games, I think it should stay as a separate entity until further notice. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:14, July 21, 2023 (EDT) | ||
