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In line with the not-really-all-that-recent-but-still-on-my-mind proposal regarding [[Grab Block]]s and [[Talk:Grab_Block#Merge_White_Block_with_Grab_Block_2|their difference]] from [[White Block]]s, is there any satisfactory indication that the bumpers on this page are the same? The ones in NSMB have a different Japanese name, and they all have different visual designs and preferred environments, from underwater cell bubbles to space graveyard meat to inner tubes. If the White Block proposal is any guide, these are not the same object and need different pages (even though they'd probably be stubby and unintuitive). I'm asking largely to gauge the consensus about splits/merges like this, because the NSMB and SMM ones work pretty much identically but aren't confirmed to be the same and have different names, while the meat is even more of a stretch but could still be considered "a bumper". [[User:WilliamFrog|WilliamFrog]] ([[User talk:WilliamFrog|talk]]) 01:19, January 28, 2024 (EST) | In line with the not-really-all-that-recent-but-still-on-my-mind proposal regarding [[Grab Block]]s and [[Talk:Grab_Block#Merge_White_Block_with_Grab_Block_2|their difference]] from [[White Block]]s, is there any satisfactory indication that the bumpers on this page are the same? The ones in NSMB have a different Japanese name, and they all have different visual designs and preferred environments, from underwater cell bubbles to space graveyard meat to inner tubes. If the White Block proposal is any guide, these are not the same object and need different pages (even though they'd probably be stubby and unintuitive). I'm asking largely to gauge the consensus about splits/merges like this, because the NSMB and SMM ones work pretty much identically but aren't confirmed to be the same and have different names, while the meat is even more of a stretch but could still be considered "a bumper". [[User:WilliamFrog|WilliamFrog]] ([[User talk:WilliamFrog|talk]]) 01:19, January 28, 2024 (EST) | ||
:Personally, I think it is fine for objects of the same function to share an article if they are not meaningfully differentiated from each other in primary sources. Having different designs is less important since many objects will be visually tweaked to match the environment they occur in or the general art directions of the games they appear in. (For example, there are a million [[lift]]s.) With the texts currently available online (i.e. not the Shogakukan Guidebook for SMG, which may prove valuable) the bumper and meat from Super Mario Galaxy aren't even mentioned in any of the Japanese source material and that has generally been my reference for differentiating an "object" from "just part of the environment". Is it really beneficially for one or both of them to get their own dedicated articles, or is more helpful for readers to learn about them here, with objects that share the same function? I'm inclined to think the latter. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 16:24, January 28, 2024 (EST) | :Personally, I think it is fine for objects of the same function to share an article if they are not meaningfully differentiated from each other in primary sources. Having different designs is less important since many objects will be visually tweaked to match the environment they occur in or the general art directions of the games they appear in. (For example, there are a million [[lift]]s.) With the texts currently available online (i.e. not the Shogakukan Guidebook for SMG, which may prove valuable) the bumper and meat from Super Mario Galaxy aren't even mentioned in any of the Japanese source material and that has generally been my reference for differentiating an "object" from "just part of the environment". Is it really beneficially for one or both of them to get their own dedicated articles, or is more helpful for readers to learn about them here, with objects that share the same function? I'm inclined to think the latter. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 16:24, January 28, 2024 (EST) | ||