Editing Talk:Bowser's Muscle Car

==Official name==
Is this the official name for this? {{User|Yoshi876}}

I'm not quite sure. I'll add the conjecture box just in case.{{User:Dry Bowser rules!/sig}} 22:49, 2 December 2013 (EST)

== Endless Road ==

I was curious as to whether or not the road the battle takes place on is endless, so I started the battle in [[Bowser's Highway Showdown]], but refrained form kicking any bombs at him so the battle would keep going for a while. I discovered that for a while, the road has obstacles and gimmicks, like a ditch cut through the middle of the road with enough space on the edges to keep the Bowser Mobile above the ditch. But after a while I noticed the gimmicks diminishing until there were almost none at all. I can conclude that after a while, the road starts looping through the same section, which consists of one long, plain stretch with the only thing of note being a small jump in the middle. Having concluded that the road is not generated randomly and can therefore be fully documented, should I add the full layout of the road as well as the fact that it starts looping? I won't be able to do it until this weekend because I don't remember the full road and can't play until then. I'll also do the road for the second battle.<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:42, 16 November 2016 (EST)
:Nobody's answering, so I guess I'll assume it's a good plan. If we're going to be the ultimate Mario database, we need all the detail we can get. I'll put it into its own section, marked '''Battle''' or '''Battle Layout'''. I'll also take  a couple screenshots of the second Bowser Mobile, one from the front when he first drives up and one from the back, during the fight.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 13:59, 18 November 2016 (EST)
::Sounds good. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:02, 18 November 2016 (EST)
:::Done. I also got a pic of Bowser defeated.
:::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 20:30, 18 November 2016 (EST)

== Images ==

This article needs more images. Could we get images of:
*Bowser defeated
*The second version of the Bowser Mobile
*The second battle
*The remains of the Bowser Mobile at [[The Great Tower of Bowser Land]]
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:47, 16 November 2016 (EST)
:I have a pic of the remains I could upload that I saved to Miiverse a while back. [https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADV0Z_IuEX4Q Would this be good enough?] {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:49, 16 November 2016 (EST)
::Yeah, that's good. I like how Mario's standing on top of it, signifying how he conquered it.
::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:53, 16 November 2016 (EST)
:::Uploaded and included! I'll upload a bigger and better version once I get around to it. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:28, 16 November 2016 (EST)

::::Nice one.

::::{{User:Shokora/sig}} 20:29, 16 November 2016 (EST)

== Fireballs ==

[[Boomerang]]s thrown by [[Boomerang Mario]] can hurt it. What about [[fireball]]s thrown by [[Fire Mario]]? None appear in the level, but someone could still get to the battle with one from another level.<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 22:37, 22 November 2016 (EST)
:I'm not sure, I will have to check. {{User:The RPG Gamer/sig}} 22:39, 22 November 2016 (EST)
::I have confirmed that fireballs can indeed destroy it. Every five hits, he takes damage as if he was hit with a bomb, so I multiply that by nine to get... 45 fireballs to defeat it.
::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 15:32, 27 November 2016 (EST)
:::That's the case with just about any enemy/boss. They can be damaged by fireballs, but it'll take more attacks for one solid "hit" to land. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:43, 27 November 2016 (EST)
::::Yeah, but it's a bad plan to just assume that fireballs can hurt it. You should always check this stuff. Also, we would still need to know exactly how many hits it took.
::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:15, 27 November 2016 (EST)

== "Name" ==
Are we sure that this is the name of the vehicle? It sounds like it's referring to the area you fight Bowser in, instead. Did somebody mess up? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 21:06, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
:Yeah, I'm not buying this either. "KoopaChaseLv2" sounds more like a 2nd level where you chase Bowser, which is exactly what the level is, rather than intended to be the name of the vehicle. It could also potentially refer to the combination of Bowser and the car, which would be the boss itself. I'm curious if anything internally refers to The Great Tower of Bowser Land as "KoopaChaseLv3", which would debunk the name. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 21:24, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
::Rest assured, I'm not just working off filenames and can confirm via Switch-Toolbox that <tt>KoopaChase</tt> is the model for the first car and <tt>KoopaChaseLv2</tt> is the model for the second car. In fact, "Lv2" seems to be in general use for the object name of a revisited boss (for example, the first/blue Hisstocrat is <tt>TentackHead</tt> and the second/pink one is <tt>TentackHeadLv2</tt>). Additionally, levels are in a separate <tt>StageData</tt> folder, not <tt>ObjectData</tt>. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:50, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
:::I agree. It sounds less like the name of the vehicle. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:53, July 3, 2019 (EDT)
::::Then I don't know what to tell you because that's just what the names of the models are. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:59, July 3, 2019 (EDT)
:::::Out of curiosity, what are the mention in the Prima guide? If generic, i'd prefer to use the internal filenames over the generic descriptor, even if it sounds weird. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:09, July 3, 2019 (EDT)
::::::It's just called Bowser's "car" and has no other name. My guess on "Koopa Chase" is that it was meant to evoke the Koopa Clown (Car). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:39, July 3, 2019 (EDT)

== Name again ==
Late to this, but I'm not necessarily sure if "Koopa Chase" is supposed to be the actual name of the car? It sounds more like just a temporary model name for the vehicle's purpose, because you chase Koopa (Bowser) during the fight. I highly doubt it's intended to be the name of the car itself. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 03:15, October 8, 2019 (EDT)

:As prior established above, the name was explicitly given to the model of the car specifically in-game, and we're going with that because (to my knowledge) it's not referred to by any particular name anywhere else. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 03:43, October 8, 2019 (EDT)

== Name take 3 ==

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A recently revealed LEGO set calls this "Bowser's Muscle Car". Any objections to a move? --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 11:58, November 15, 2023 (EST)
:I support moving. [[User:1468z|1468z]] ([[User talk:1468z|talk]]) 12:45, November 15, 2023 (EST)
::Move it. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 12:58, November 15, 2023 (EST)
:::Dewitt. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:13, November 15, 2023 (EST)
::::I see no reason not to move. -[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 13:36, November 15, 2023 (EST)
:::::Pretty clear-cut, I'd say. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:51, November 15, 2023 (EST)
::::::Considering the "chase" in the file name is simply referring to the structure of the battle, absolutely. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:24, November 15, 2023 (EST)
:::::::Move it. An official, public English name takes precedence over an internal filename. {{User:Jdtendo/sig}} 14:58, November 16, 2023 (EST)
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 == Name take 3 ==
+{{talk}}
 A recently revealed LEGO set calls this "Bowser's Muscle Car". Any objections to a move? --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 11:58, November 15, 2023 (EST)
 :I support moving. [[User:1468z|1468z]] ([[User talk:1468z|talk]]) 12:45, November 15, 2023 (EST)
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 ::::::Considering the "chase" in the file name is simply referring to the structure of the battle, absolutely. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:24, November 15, 2023 (EST)
 :::::::Move it. An official, public English name takes precedence over an internal filename. {{User:Jdtendo/sig}} 14:58, November 16, 2023 (EST)
-::::::::As said by that one [[WarioWare: Move It!|''WarioWare'' game]], Move It! --[[User:EleCyon|EleCyon]] ([[User talk:EleCyon|talk]]) 17:34, November 16, 2023 (EST)
-== Name take 4 ==
-Video description [https://play.nintendo.com/media/videos/bowser-gets-bounced-lego-super-mario/ on Play Nintendo] simply refers to it as "Muscle Car", and it seems to be the actual name of the vehicle and "Bowser's" part just being for clarification. [[User:Axii|Axii]] ([[User talk:Axii|talk]]) 14:32, September 16, 2024 (EDT)
-:What about all the foreign names? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 04:02, September 20, 2024 (EDT)
-:: Yyyyyyeaaaah, the foreign names make it clear that it's Bowser's car. Even the file name indicates the car specifically belongs to Bowser. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 11:06, October 10, 2024 (EDT)
-:: I'd say mention Muscle Car as an alternative name too. But keep the name as Bowser's Muscle Car though. --[[User:CyonOfGaia|CyonOfGaia]] ([[User talk:CyonOfGaia|talk]]) 18:33, December 10, 2024 (EST)
-:::Added Muscle Car in the opening paragraph, it is also already a redirect. Closing this question unless new evidence comes up.{{User:LadySophie17/sig}} 19:46, December 10, 2024 (EST)