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== Create page for {{fake link|Cat Enemies (Bowser's Fury)}} == | == Create page for {{fake link|Cat Enemies (Bowser's Fury)}} == | ||
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I've been reading the discussion around the topic, although they are recognized as cat counterparts of the normal SM3DW enemies, their only difference is an addition of cat ears and fur, so I think it would be best to create a specific page for these enemies in general and thanks to this group them into a single differentiated article or make Each Enemy It's Own page, the name of this page is simple {{fake link|Cat Enemies (Bowser's Fury)}} | I've been reading the discussion around the topic, although they are recognized as cat counterparts of the normal SM3DW enemies, their only difference is an addition of cat ears and fur, so I think it would be best to create a specific page for these enemies in general and thanks to this group them into a single differentiated article or make Each Enemy It's Own page, the name of this page is simple {{fake link|Cat Enemies (Bowser's Fury)}} | ||
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#{{User|Arend}} Per proposal. (Also, can we split the Bowser's Fury Cat Goomba from [[Cat Goomba|the ''3D World'' one]], while we're at it?) | #{{User|Arend}} Per proposal. (Also, can we split the Bowser's Fury Cat Goomba from [[Cat Goomba|the ''3D World'' one]], while we're at it?) | ||
#{{User|Rykitu}} Per all. | #{{User|Rykitu}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|Hewer}} Actually, this makes sense. Why shouldn't we split variants with different designs and different names, and that are officially identified as separate on Mario Portal? A similar case would be [[Raving Piranha Plant]], or [[Talk:Hyrule Circuit#Create pages for the Zelda elements, take II|this proposal]] that gave us the likes of [[Deku Baba]] and [[ | #{{User|Hewer}} Actually, this makes sense. Why shouldn't we split variants with different designs and different names, and that are officially identified as separate on Mario Portal? (I'd actually oppose splitting the two Cat Goombas based on how Mario Portal presents it.) A similar case would be [[Raving Piranha Plant]], or [[Talk:Hyrule Circuit#Create pages for the Zelda elements, take II|this proposal]] that gave us the likes of [[Deku Baba]] and [[Cash]], or Mario Maker's [[Jelectro]]s. Oh, and let's not forget [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/69#Split articles for the alternate-named reskins from All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros.|Pakkun OkaP]]. | ||
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Per all. Either these should be split, or we should do a ton of sweeping merges for [[Tail Bob-omb|the]] [[Tail Boo|utter]] [[Tail Bullet Bill|deluge]] [[Tail Thwomp|of]] [[Big Tail Goomba|tanuki]] [[Tail Goomba|tailed]] [[Tail Bowser|enemies]] from ''3D Land''. | #{{User|Camwoodstock}} Per all. Either these should be split, or we should do a ton of sweeping merges for [[Tail Bob-omb|the]] [[Tail Boo|utter]] [[Tail Bullet Bill|deluge]] [[Tail Thwomp|of]] [[Big Tail Goomba|tanuki]] [[Tail Goomba|tailed]] [[Tail Bowser|enemies]] from ''3D Land''. | ||
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#{{user|PopitTart}} If Green Koopa Troopa and Red Koopa Troopa are stuck together despite being mechanically distinct, then theres absolutely no reason Cat Koopa Troopa should get its own page as a cosmetic reskin. Theres more justification to split the colors of Yoshi than the Cat variants. | #{{user|PopitTart}} If Green Koopa Troopa and Red Koopa Troopa are stuck together despite being mechanically distinct, then theres absolutely no reason Cat Koopa Troopa should get its own page as a cosmetic reskin. Theres more justification to split the colors of Yoshi than the Cat variants. | ||
#{{User|Tails777}} Per PopitTart. I'll admit, the support reasons are justifiable, but if we're already struggling to find a line with things like Koopa Troopas, Yoshis and Shy Guys, who have on-an-off functionality/statistical differences across multiple different games, these shouldn't be up for discussion just yet with their cosmetic differences. | #{{User|Tails777}} Per PopitTart. I'll admit, the support reasons are justifiable, but if we're already struggling to find a line with things like Koopa Troopas, Yoshis and Shy Guys, who have on-an-off functionality/statistical differences across multiple different games, these shouldn't be up for discussion just yet with their cosmetic differences. | ||
<s>#{{User|Arend}} Given that these have never been classified as a group, and that said group never even got the name "Cat Enemies", I would rather give each subject its own article instead. I would suggest retitling the proposed article to something like "List of cat variants of enemies in ''Bowser's Fury''", but that would cover nearly every enemy in the entire campaign, which would be redundant. (side note, the Cat Goomba from ''Bowser's Fury'' should NOT be merged with [[Cat Goomba|the ''3D World'' one]])</s> | <s>#{{User|Arend}} Given that these have never been classified as a group, and that said group never even got the name "Cat Enemies", I would rather give each subject its own article instead. I would suggest retitling the proposed article to something like "List of cat variants of enemies in ''Bowser's Fury''", but that would cover nearly every enemy in the entire campaign, which would be redundant. (side note, the Cat Goomba from ''Bowser's Fury'' should NOT be merged with [[Cat Goomba|the ''3D World'' one]])</s> | ||
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:::Nevermind that. The Mario vs Donkey Kong enemies eviemaybe brought up are a better example of what I was trying to say. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 16:12, March 8, 2025 (EST) | :::Nevermind that. The Mario vs Donkey Kong enemies eviemaybe brought up are a better example of what I was trying to say. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 16:12, March 8, 2025 (EST) | ||
::::Are they? I can still make the same counterarguments that they are generally the only instances of those enemies in the game and not named differently or identified separately, unlike these cats. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 16:46, March 8, 2025 (EST) | ::::Are they? I can still make the same counterarguments that they are generally the only instances of those enemies in the game and not named differently or identified separately, unlike these cats. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 16:46, March 8, 2025 (EST) | ||
{{@|PopitTart}} - Those aren't always mechanically distinct, though, and them being named differently from each other is also not consistent. [[File:SMB3 Koopa Troopa credits.png]] <- And who is this? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:51, March 8, 2025 (EST) | {{@|PopitTart}} - Those aren't always mechanically distinct, though, and them being named differently from each other is also not consistent. [[File:SMB3 Koopa Troopa credits.png]] <- And who is this? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:51, March 8, 2025 (EST) | ||
:Usually but-not-always mechanically distinct is still more than never mechanically distinct. And given the color usage elsewhere in ''SMB3'''s credits, that seems to be a Red Koopa.--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 15:38, March 8, 2025 (EST) | :Usually but-not-always mechanically distinct is still more than never mechanically distinct. And given the color usage elsewhere in ''SMB3'''s credits, that seems to be a Red Koopa.--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 15:38, March 8, 2025 (EST) | ||
::[[File:SMB3 Goomba tipped credits.png]] <- Considering ''this'' guy also in the credits, I'm not buying that | ::[[File:SMB3 Goomba tipped credits.png]] <- Considering ''this'' guy also in the credits, I'm not buying that. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:05, March 8, 2025 (EST) | ||
{{@|Camwoodstock}} all of those Tail enemies you link to are mechanically differentiated from their base forms. This is already consistent with how [[Cat Goomba]], [[Cat Bullet Bill]], and [[Meowser]] are covered. The Cat forms in ''Bowser's Fury'' which this proposal refers to are a different case.--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 16:34, March 8, 2025 (EST) | {{@|Camwoodstock}} all of those Tail enemies you link to are mechanically differentiated from their base forms. This is already consistent with how [[Cat Goomba]], [[Cat Bullet Bill]], and [[Meowser]] are covered. The Cat forms in ''Bowser's Fury'' which this proposal refers to are a different case.--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 16:34, March 8, 2025 (EST) | ||
