Editing Talk:Bomp

==What is this, anyway?==
Since it has pupils and stuff, is it an enemy?{{User:Knife/sig}} 19:04, 28 July 2007 (EDT)

:Well, a lot of things have eyes....like eveything in Double Dash....so not really. [[User:♥♪!?|♥♪!?]] 19:07, 28 July 2007 (EDT)

Who changed the name? -Mariosonic444
Their english name is Pushy Walls! Idiots!

:Do you have a source {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

:Did you know that one of the most efficient ways of getting banned from editing this website is to be rude to people? It's true! {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig}} 20:27, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

I dont care, its pretty idiotic to change the english name to the japenese, this also happened to Flimps, no, i dont have a source, but why would someone name it pushy walls in the first place? {{unsigned|Mariosonic444}}

they didn't unless you have a source that proves pushy wall is the English name we use the Japanese name same goes for flimp {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:I think Pushy Wall was a conjectural name, so we named the article like that until we found an official name, so we moved it and kept the name we first used for English speakers. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}

Look in Super Mario Galaxy 2 Game Guide. [[User:Mariosonic444]]
:Prima is a last ditch thing and we don't trust it too much. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}

::I've already checked that a number of times, and I never once found that they were given an official name within... 

{{User:Phoenix/sig}} 20:36, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

::it's not a last ditch thing, since it actually takes priority over non-english names ([[MarioWiki:Naming]]), but if Phoenix is right about the guide not providing an official name, then it doesn't really matter. they're pretty unreliable, anyway. [[User:Turboo|Turboo]] 20:41, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

:So wait, you don't care if your account is banned for being rude? {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig}} 20:32, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

:this wikis view on Prima is confusing {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
::It's not, really. Read any Prima guide yourself and you'll see what I mean. I mean, they listed Chain Chomps as enemies in Moonview Highway. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}

No it's still confusing to say that it is the official source and yet that the same time say your official Nintendo source is wrong when they rename enemies {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

:Try looking [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable Sources for Naming|here]] if you haven't already...

{{User:Phoenix/sig}} 20:56, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

The SMG2 Prima Game Guide didn't mention them. The SMG Prima Guide called them "''Sliding Stones''". {{User:Mario Bros.!/sig}}

:If you can scan the part of the guide that calls them that, than the name can be changed since that Prima guide would be official {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

I cant scan it but it says this: ''There are three Sliding Stones in the mountain's face that push Mario onto shrinking platforms.''{{User:Mario Bros.!/sig}}

Should we rename the images to sliding stones then?--[[User:Vommack|Vommack]] 12:16, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

Should we change the name to "Bomp"? I remember getting a scrap in Paper Mario: Sticker Star with one of these guys and it said "Bomp"... I think that's the official name for it. {{User|Smithuser}}

:That would only be the official name for ''Sticker Star''. The ''SM64'' and ''SMG'' appearances are all official names as "Sliding Stone". I think the best thing to do here is make a note of the other name in the intro (remember to bolden the word '''Bomp''' and create a redirect). Also, mention it in the relevant section.

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 06:42, 26 November 2012 (EST)

::Now, wait a moment. From what I'm understanding, Bomp is a name used in-game. That gives it way more priority over a Prima Guide name like Sliding Stone. Even if they were on the same level, Bomp is the more recent name, and each name was only used once (they are unnamed in-game in ''Super Mario 64'', with the Nintendo Power guide indirectly calling them "Pushy Walls"). -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User talk:1337star|Mailbox SP]])</sup> [[File:Frosty.png|25px|Happy Holidays!]] 18:54, 16 December 2012 (EST)

== Paper Mario: Sticker Star name ==

I'm reading the official guide to the game and it says that their names for this game are Bomps. Should this be included in the article anywhere? {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== ''Super Mario 64'' ==

For reference, ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' has a different (though similar) name for the ''Super Mario 64'' version and classifies it as an object rather than an enemy. It also groups the eyeless Tick Tock Clock wall together with the Whomp's Fortress wall, with both being represented in accompanying pictures. Bomp's appearance in ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'''s Throwback Galaxy indicates they're one and the same, however. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:58, 23 December 2017 (EST)
:Still, it could be a case like Dust Man and Bucketman, which you suggested we split both separate on the Bin discussion. "Bumper Thud" seems like a conglomeration of "Bumper" and Thwomp, with a similar situation for Tox Box. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:38, 23 December 2017 (EST)
::Splitting the Bin enemy further is just one solution to the multiple name issue I threw out there - if it splits from the Bin object as a single article instead of two, there is still a [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_47#The_Usage_of_Old_Names_in_Articles|precedent]] to use the original name on Game Boy ''Donkey Kong'' articles and the recent name on ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' articles. I do agree that Bomp seems to be in a similar situation to Tox Box, given the size and design difference as well. For what it's worth, though, the internal name for Tox Box in both ''Super Mario 64 DS'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy'' refers to it as "Onimasu" and not "Onimasukun" or "Onimasudon". [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:39, 24 December 2017 (EST)
:::<s>Still has more reason to have its own article than [[Junior (II)|Stinky Kong]].</s> [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:18, 25 December 2017 (EST)

== Picture from 64 DS ==
Those anyone have any pictures of Bomp's appearance in SM64 DS? [[User:I&#39;manumber1|I&#39;manumber1]] ([[User talk:I&#39;manumber1|talk]]) 19:12, September 14, 2021 (EDT)
:Nope, though the rom shouldn't be difficult to get and it should be easily emulatable. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 19:15, September 14, 2021 (EDT)

==Names==
These pushy things have stayed largely the same between games but have different Japanese names. I suggest using Pushy Walls for the Whomp's Fortress version, Moving Bars for Tick Tock Clock and SMG and SMG2 and Bomps starting with Sticker Star. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 20:35, September 9, 2024 (EDT)
:It looks like the current Japanese name started being used in SMG though. With that and the redesign, I think they probably had the Bomp name in mind by then, or at the very least were moving away from Moving Bars name. The article seems fine as is. I could be totally wrong here, but either way it doesn't make sense for this page to not use the Thwomp-based name for the enemies when discussing the game they started looking like Thwomps in. [[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 14:14, November 9, 2024 (EST)
::Additionally, the [https://www.nintendo.com/jp/character/mario/en/history/galaxy2/index.html Mario Portal] does consider the design from ''Super Mario Galaxy'' as a Bomp in the English version of the page. So I do believe the new name came alongside the redesign. Even if it didn't, the Mario Portal is definite proof that the change would've been retroactive. {{User:LadySophie17/sig}} 14:58, November 9, 2024 (EST)