Editing Talk:Bombite

== Falls within the scope our coverage? ==
As far as I can tell, there is nothing that directly states or implies that Bombites are based on/derived from Bob-ombs. Not Nintendo Power, not the Player's Guide, not The Legend of Zelda: Encyclopedia, not The Great Hyrule Encyclopedia, not the instruction manuals. It seems the wiki just assumes the connection exists based on the enemy's design. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 14:37, July 19, 2024 (EDT)
:To be honest, it's kinda weird that this article exists here anyway. It's a ''Zelda'' creature that basically never appeared in a single ''Mario'' title, and the only justification for why it gets to stay is... it only appears in ''Link's Awakening'' (which we allow an article here since it's regarded as a guest appearance, as it's riddled with actual ''Mario'' series cameos), and it kind of resembles a Bob-omb. But that makes one question why Tarin doesn't have an article, since he similarly resembles Mario.<br>The whole thing reminds me of the [[wikirby:Togezo|Togezo]] being covered on our [[Spiny]] article as if it's the same thing too, which I honestly find to be a stretch (though Doc at least gave some justification [[Talk:King Bob-omb#Trade & Battle: Card Hero|here]]). {{User:Arend/sig}} 16:07, July 19, 2024 (EDT)
::Given all the ''Mario'' characters and enemies in ''Link's Awakening'', it's frankly puzzling that Nintendo made these store brand knockoffs in the first place instead of just putting actual Bob-ombs in the game. Either way, this article is unnecessary. It's a ''Zelda'' enemy, not a ''Mario'' enemy. Their blatant resemblance to Bob-ombs doesn't change that. If they appeared in an actual ''Mario'' game, that would justify having an article on them, but they don't. It warrants a mention in Bob-omb's "other appearances" section, and that's it. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 12:47, July 20, 2024 (EDT)
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 As far as I can tell, there is nothing that directly states or implies that Bombites are based on/derived from Bob-ombs. Not Nintendo Power, not the Player's Guide, not The Legend of Zelda: Encyclopedia, not The Great Hyrule Encyclopedia, not the instruction manuals. It seems the wiki just assumes the connection exists based on the enemy's design. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 14:37, July 19, 2024 (EDT)
 :To be honest, it's kinda weird that this article exists here anyway. It's a ''Zelda'' creature that basically never appeared in a single ''Mario'' title, and the only justification for why it gets to stay is... it only appears in ''Link's Awakening'' (which we allow an article here since it's regarded as a guest appearance, as it's riddled with actual ''Mario'' series cameos), and it kind of resembles a Bob-omb. But that makes one question why Tarin doesn't have an article, since he similarly resembles Mario.<br>The whole thing reminds me of the [[wikirby:Togezo|Togezo]] being covered on our [[Spiny]] article as if it's the same thing too, which I honestly find to be a stretch (though Doc at least gave some justification [[Talk:King Bob-omb#Trade & Battle: Card Hero|here]]). {{User:Arend/sig}} 16:07, July 19, 2024 (EDT)
 ::Given all the ''Mario'' characters and enemies in ''Link's Awakening'', it's frankly puzzling that Nintendo made these store brand knockoffs in the first place instead of just putting actual Bob-ombs in the game. Either way, this article is unnecessary. It's a ''Zelda'' enemy, not a ''Mario'' enemy. Their blatant resemblance to Bob-ombs doesn't change that. If they appeared in an actual ''Mario'' game, that would justify having an article on them, but they don't. It warrants a mention in Bob-omb's "other appearances" section, and that's it. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 12:47, July 20, 2024 (EDT)
-:::Later games ''did'' include Bob-ombs using these guys' basic behavior, though. At the very least, it should redirect to the "other appearances" section of Bob-omb's page rather than being deleted outright. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:01, July 20, 2024 (EDT)
-::::I support merge and redirect to Bob-omb. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:25, July 20, 2024 (EDT)
-:::::This is just speculation, but I wonder if this wasn't intended to be another case of renaming Bob-ombs for no reason when moving them to a new franchise, like the rename from "Bob" to "Bomb-hei". In any case, I also support the merge+redirect. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 14:27, July 20, 2024 (EDT)
-:Well, I just happened to be scrolling through [[tcrf:Development:The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (Game Boy)/Entities#Old Enemy Bank Data|this TCRF page]], and as it turns out, the developers ID'd them as「爆弾兵」(''Bakudan Hei'', Bomb Trooper). That sounds very much derived from「ボム兵」(''Bomu Hei'', Bob-omb). I think it's safe to deem them as a variant. Reopening this discussion in light of that overlooked info. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:22, October 14, 2024 (EDT)