Editing Talk:Bomb seed

===Merge with [[Feed and Seed]]===
{{TPP}}
I don't think Bomb Seed is very notable, seeing as it is only featured in one minigame. Should we create articles for [[Shy_Guy_Showdown|Paint Gun]] or [[Shuffleboard_Showdown|Poker Chips]]? I think not. We should just have it in the minigame article, just with other minigame-exclusive items.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Yoshiwaker}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>August 26, 2011, 23:59 GMT</s> '''Extended''': September 2, 2011, 23:59 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|Yoshiwaker}} - Per proposal, and the fact that it is the collectible does not make it much, if any, more notable.
#{{User|Reddragon19k}} I support this one!
#{{User|Toad85}} If both articles had more beef, then I would oppose. But since both are practically stubs, I third this.
#{{User|Supremo78}} After reading something in the comments, it made me support. Per all.

====Oppose====
#{{User|DKPetey99}} Bomb Seeds are notable items that appear in the minigame. Merging an item with a minigame is like merging a minor character with a video game. I think Bomb Seeds are notable enough to have its own page.
#{{User|DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr.}} They are notable for having a description and for being a Boss Trophy.
#{{User|MarioMaster720}} Per All?
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} Per the user with the long username.

====Comments====
Toad85: Do you know what a stub is? A stub is an article that lacks sufficient information. They are not necessarily short articles. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}

'''@DKPetey99:''' So you think we should have Poker Chip, Ink Gun, Pen, etc. articles too? As far as I know, this is the only minigame-exclusive item that has an article, therefore, this should be merged for consistency.

And '''@DKDKBBJ:''' we don't have an article for Jagged Leaf or Winner's Balloon. Plus, it's notable for having a description? Literally every single thing in the world has a description, long or short. {{User:Yoshiwaker/sig}}

@Yoshiwaker: Bomb Seeds appear in a minigame and as a figuring. Winner's Balloon and Jagged Leaf don't appear in a minigame. That's like merging [[Bullet Blitzer]] to its minigame. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}} 08:27, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
:Then we should merge it too. I see no reason to have that article either. And Jagged leaf is one of Piranha Plant's leaves, and I'm pretty sure the Winner's Balloon is the one you're hanging from when you fight it. It being a figurine and an item in a minigame only makes it notable enough to be in each one's respective article. {{User:Yoshiwaker/sig}}

'''@Supremo:''' We don't have articles for Boss Trophies; they're on the [[List of Collectibles from Mario Party DS]] page. {{User:Yoshiwaker/sig}}
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 ===Merge with [[Feed and Seed]]===
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|no consensus|7-6}}
 I don't think Bomb Seed is very notable, seeing as it is only featured in one minigame. Should we create articles for [[Shy_Guy_Showdown|Paint Gun]] or [[Shuffleboard_Showdown|Poker Chips]]? I think not. We should just have it in the minigame article, just with other minigame-exclusive items.
 '''Proposer''': {{User|Yoshiwaker}}<br>
-'''Deadline''': <s>August 26, 2011, 23:59 GMT</s> '''Extended''': <s>September 2, 2011, 23:59 GMT</s>, <s>September 9, 2011, 23:59 GMT</s>, September 16, 2011, 23:59 GMT
+'''Deadline''': <s>August 26, 2011, 23:59 GMT</s> '''Extended''': September 2, 2011, 23:59 GMT
 ====Support====
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 #{{User|Toad85}} If both articles had more beef, then I would oppose. But since both are practically stubs, I third this.
 #{{User|Supremo78}} After reading something in the comments, it made me support. Per all.
-#{{User|Bop1996}} After examining the article, most, if not all, of the information on Bomb Seed is redundant with Feed and Seed, and therefore a merge would make sense and would be helpful.
-#{{User|Lakituthequick}} This is the only collectible from [[Mario Party DS|MPDS]] to have an article, minus the enemy/allied characters, so support.
-#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per above.
 ====Oppose====
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 #{{User|MarioMaster720}} Per All?
 #{{User|Bowser's luma}} Per the user with the long username.
-#{{User|New Super Yoshi}} Per All.
-#{{User|yoshiyoshiyoshi}} Per All.
 ====Comments====
 Toad85: Do you know what a stub is? A stub is an article that lacks sufficient information. They are not necessarily short articles. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
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 '''@Supremo:''' We don't have articles for Boss Trophies; they're on the [[List of Collectibles from Mario Party DS]] page. {{User:Yoshiwaker/sig}}
-===Talk Page Proposal===
-How is this proposal settled? There is no consensus. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 20:29, 17 November 2011 (EST)
-:Proposals can only be extended 4 times so this one losses by default {{User|Raven Effect}}
-==Merge ''Mario Party DS'' boss item articles to respective minigame pages==
-{{settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|4-0-0-0|Merge both}}
-I was looking for an example of a proposal outcome template for my own failed template, and came across this wonderful relic of 2010s-era Mario Wiki. The bomb seeds from [[Feed and Seed]], along with the [[Magic switch|magic switches]] from [[Hexoskeleton]], have the dubious honor of occupying their own page. Even in 2011, as you can see from the previous proposal, people were very split on this page's individuality. The reasons given in defense of this page were:
-# It's a notable item in a minigame.
-# It has a boss trophy and a description.
-Already shaky reasons by modern wiki standards, but when you take into consideration the [[List_of_Mario_Party_DS_collectibles#Boss_Trophies|sheer amount of boss trophies]] that ''don't'' have pages, including Toadette's Timpano and Winner's Pen that have similar uses in their respective boss fights... yeah.
-This proposal will ''not'' include the [[Megamorph Belt]], since that has actual plot relevance, and would clutter up the options present here; I plan of making another proposal for it.
-'''Proposer''': {{User|DrippingYellow}}<br>
-'''Deadline''': <s>December 13, 2023, 23:59 GMT</s> Extended to December 20, 2023 at 23:59 GMT
-===Merge both Bomb seed & Magic switch===
-#{{User|DrippingYellow}} Per proposal.
-#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Per proposal.
-#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per proposal.
-#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Per Proposal.
-===Merge only Bomb seed===
-===Merge only Magic switch===
-===Do nothing===
-===Comments===
-What sets these items apart would probably be a nongeneric name and a gameplay function. "Bomb Seed" and "Magic Switch" are a little more specific (unlike "Kamek's Brown Book" and "Winner's Balloon") and have a gameplay function (unlike "Jagged Leaf" and "Electromagnetic Generator"). It's probably why those were created and not the others, and a few users defended it, but the arguments might not hold up today. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:42, December 1, 2023 (EST)