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| !Deceased & Undead | | !Deceased & Undead |
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| |colspan="4" align=center |post credit situation<br /><small>(to avoid problems in determining Sammer's Kingdom, Kristi, Luvbi ect.)</small>
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| You could set up a proposal on [[MarioWiki:Proposals]] if you really want to go through with this. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} | | You could set up a proposal on [[MarioWiki:Proposals]] if you really want to go through with this. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} |
| :I made [[MarioWiki:Proposals#definitions of undead and deceased]] [[User:Pokemon|Pokemon]] ([[User talk:Pokemon|talk]]) 02:28, July 30, 2020 (EDT) | | :I made [[MarioWiki:Proposals#definitions of undead and deceased]] [[User:Pokemon|Pokemon]] ([[User talk:Pokemon|talk]]) 02:28, July 30, 2020 (EDT) |
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| There doesn't need to be a proposal for including both categories. You ''can'' have overlaps. Some [[:Category:Deceased Characters|deceased characters]] can appear undead (e.g. Bob-omb and Wrinkly), some do not (e.g. King Croacus); simple. Wrinkly has had both categories for years now. What the category page is saying is that we shouldn't treat ''all'' undead characters (like the ones that start out undead by default) as "deceased". The sentence just needs to be clarified a bit more.
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| If there's something that could use discussion, it would be how the "Deceased Characters" category alone can be broadened (e.g. to include Olly and Olivia or not), but the overlap part is clear-cut. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 03:03, July 30, 2020 (EDT)
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| :I totally agree with you, nevertheless the regulation apparently exists "The category is mainly supposed to be used for characters who are already dead"<br />It is also important to me when the death is implied and when it is not (even it's obvious), so that it is fixed and no longer discussed about each individual case, let alone an edit war has to be carried out [[User:Pokemon|Pokemon]] ([[User talk:Pokemon|talk]]) 03:37, July 30, 2020 (EDT)
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