Editing Talk:Bob-omb

==I was wondering...==
I was wondering, should Bob-Ombs be considered robots? Also what about [[Bullet Bills]]? -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]

Bob-ombs are bombs and not robots. They are both not robots. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]]<tt>&middot;</tt></small>) '''Paper Jorge''' was here at... 20:08, 13 September 2006 (EDT)

:Please note that, according to Goombella, we don't even know if [[Bill Blasters]] are alive or inanimate objects. So Bob-ombs and Bullet Bills could be living creatures. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

I think in ''[[Mario Party Advance]]'' you encounter a Bullet Bill which can speak and you challenge him to a race for a deul mini-game, also they show some level of intelligence in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'' as they utilise a Super Scope ([[Sniper Bill]]), not sure about Bill Blasters though. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]

:I don't think Bill Blasters are alive they are just canons that are probably controlled. {{User:Paper Jorge/sig}}

Likely. {{User:3dejong/sig|controlled from the inside? Eeew.}}

Lets just leave it to "we don't know". Now... whats behind a Shy Guys mask?{{User:Knife/sig}} 23:03, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Bob-ombs are more like toys- they have a twisty thing and everything. And as for what's behind a Shy Guys mask, well they obviously don't wants us to know or else they'd show us. And some people have asked me what's behind a Snifits mask which is plain stupid, because Snifits are Shy Guys with gas masks (that shoot bullets... wonder if they've got a gun behind their masks?).{{User|M&L}} January 2012
:another mask of couse {{unsigned|Mariominer}}

==Brawl==
What prrof is there of Bob-ombs reappearing in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. {{unsigned|YoshiFan}} 
:the proof is that the game is released...[[File:Green_lightsaber.jpg|35px]][[User: CatJedi|CatJedi's been here....]][[User talk:CatJedi|..]] [http://whiskerpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Whiskerpedia_Wiki carryin' on 3dejong's comment tradition......] [[File:Jedikirby_2.gif|35px|I'm trying to slice CatJedi's sig!]]

:and also, that it's in the game which has been released!{{User:CatJedi/sig}}

== SMB3 ==

Someone should add an SMB3 section to this. [[User:Thanos6|Thanos6]] 01:38, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Then why don't YOU do it?{{User|M&L}}

== Mario vs. Donkey Kong ==

We're missing that game's info, aren't we? This is the second article where I post this. {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}

== Blue Ring ==

Should we add about there ring below the fuse witch was gray but in recent appearences its blue {{unsigned|Dry Bob-omb}}

:The change in colour should be stated in the section on the game appearance where it first became blue (just like other changes in appearance should be pointed out in the relevant sections), but I don't think it deserves any particular emphasis as it's just a minor detail and few enemies have kept their original looks anyway.--[[User:Vellidragon|vellidragon]] 10:08, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

Where exactly are Bob-ombs in M&L:SS? I would think...maybe in...caves, probably. Come to think of it, it appears in several spots, right? {{User:Pink Boozooka/sig}}


== Bomb-omb? ==
Where have they been called that? {{User|Magikrazy51}}

I dunno, but I bet someone at Nintendo called one that and everyone thought it was a good idea... but they have "Bob" in their names?!{{User|M&L}} January 8, 2012
:cause they go BOM-OMB {{unsigned|Mariominer}}

== SMB3 has SMW-style Bob-Ombs... ==

They're located in the tank level of World 8. They act and look like their Super Mario World counterparts, even exploding after a while by themselves. [[User:Liftfreak77|Liftfreak77]]  <small>([[User talk:Liftfreak77|Want to stop by and say hello?]]</small>|<small>[[Special:Contributions/Liftfreak77|What I've done?]])</small> 14:38, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

== Playable? ==

Which game has a playable Bob-omb? [[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 22:33, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
None of them do, unless one of the Mario Party's I'm forgetting does [[User:Harryg|Harryg]] ([[User talk:Harryg|talk]]) 16:27, 1 April 2013 (EDT)
Nothing does.  [[User:Goombob|Goombob]] [[File:NewMicroGoomba.png]] 11:00, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:Yes, a minigame in new super mario bros features a red, blue, yellow, or green bob-omb trying to not explode, you play as it dodging fireballs, lava, and a gray bowser statue. Toadbrigade5(Apologies for not loging in)

== I'm Confused..., ==

In the enemy box it says that they first appeared in [[Super Mario Bros. 3]] but in the article, it says that they first appeared in [[Super Mario Bros. 2]]. {{unsigned|YoshiAwsumness}}

== Quote change ==

I noticed the current quote is referring to the [[Bob-omb Buddy]] in ''SMG2'' rather than a regular Bob-omb. Is there a quote we can change it to that is more relevant? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:59, 8 October 2017 (EDT)
:The wording still applies to a normal Bob-omb. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:17, 29 January 2018 (EST)

==Quote==
{{talk}}
Can the quote be changed to {{quote|Nobody's life should be all work, right? I need free time to make my mark in the world. BOOM!|Bob-omb|Paper Mario}}
? While this doesn't say that much about them, the current one says nothing. At least this one has the explosion theme, but the current one is just Bob-ombs calling for help. --[[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 14:11, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
:I agree that this is probably a more appropriate quote, but just to clarify, is this said by a random Bob-omb or the partner (aka Bobby)? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:58, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
::This is from the first PM... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:14, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
:::You're right, my mistake. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:45, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
::::It's said by a Bob-omb in the room where Bombette was trapped by the Koopa Bros. (the same room you recruit her). So, can I change it? --[[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 18:11, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
:::::I think it's more suitable than the current one. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:56, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
::::::Ok, I'll do it --[[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 19:18, July 26, 2020 (EDT)

While the current quote isn't too bad, I have an idea for a good quote for the top of the page: {{quote2|We do our jobs, and when we're done, there's always another Bob-omb there to take our place. All any of us can hope for is to make an impact.|Bob-omb|Paper Mario: The Origami King}}. <br>This comes from one of the Bob-ombs boarding Bowser's airship, and I think this quote describes the general role of Bob-ombs quite well. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 12:09, June 3, 2021 (EDT)
::There's nothing really inherent in their design that indicates that they do it for fun like the other quote suggests, so I'd be for it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:54, December 13, 2021 (EST)

==Split SMB2 version from the rest of the page?==
As listed on the page, the Japanese version of the Bob-omb from Super Mario Bros. 2 is called "Bobu" in Japan, differentiating it from "Bomuhei", the name used for the enemy ever since. From what I've found, the two are treated as completely separate enemies in Japan, and it seems like the English name for the SMB2 enemy was used to refer to the SMB3 enemy as well, and it stuck. Would that justify splitting the SMB2 enemy into a page like "Bob-omb (Super Mario Bros. 2)" or something?

Apparently there's something in the Japanese manual for Mario 3 that makes note of the connection between the two enemies, but otherwise, they're treated as totally separate entities despite the similarities. Pretty much everything else I've found indicates that "Bob-ombs" as we know them are treated as first appearing in Mario 3 in Japanese sources, apparently the Smash Bros. Melee trophy listing them as having first appeared in Mario 2 was also altered in localization and lists Super Mario World as their first appearance instead in Japan. I'm on the fence about whether splitting them would be a good idea, as I think there's a pretty solid case for both sides, but I wanted to know what other people think. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 01:09, December 13, 2021 (EST)
:[[User talk:LinkTheLefty/Archive 7#Japanese Bob-omb|Doc]] and [[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick/Archive 3#Re:Japanese Bob-omb|I]] discussed this, and I think we agree that the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' info essentially killed that idea. At the time of its initial release, ''Super Mario USA'' would not be released in Japan for years. The Japanese manual clearly alludes to the enemy being from ''Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic'' in the untranslated third sentence, which was understandably simplified in the English version with the same name previously used in the western ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' to get the same point across. Outside of the ''Mario'' rebrand, both appearances are fairly identical, especially with the keyless ones exploding on their own after several seconds. Note that ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' seems to be a little more shy than ''Super Mario World'' would later be about borrowing ''Doki Doki Panic'' elements, as Lava Lotus also seems to be based on Panser. Additionally, even though several source books generally have a few minor issues, [[User talk:Mister Wu/30th Anniversary Books Related Questions/Archive 1#Super Mario Pia|we know of at least one that also considers them one and the same]]. ''Super Smash Bros.'' series trophies were never strictly about listing the debut in Japanese, by the way, but rather listing whichever appearances were deemed notable, which is why there are perceived errors in the English version (''Melee'' for example stripped it down to one, giving the wrong impression). Consider also that it wasn't until ''for Wii U'' that any trophies acknowledged ''Doki Doki Panic'', and Nintendo has a (frankly outdated) way of segregating game chronology by region instead of worldwide overall, so believing that the Japanese (''Mario'') debut was ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' is technically correct by some standards. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 03:17, December 13, 2021 (EST)
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 ==Quote==
+{{talk}}
 Can the quote be changed to {{quote|Nobody's life should be all work, right? I need free time to make my mark in the world. BOOM!|Bob-omb|Paper Mario}}
 ? While this doesn't say that much about them, the current one says nothing. At least this one has the explosion theme, but the current one is just Bob-ombs calling for help. --[[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 14:11, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
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 ::::::Ok, I'll do it --[[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 19:18, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
-While the current quote isn't too bad, I have an idea for a good quote for the top of the page: {{quote|We do our jobs, and when we're done, there's always another Bob-omb there to take our place. All any of us can hope for is to make an impact.|Bob-omb|Paper Mario: The Origami King}}. <br>This comes from one of the Bob-ombs boarding Bowser's airship, and I think this quote describes the general role of Bob-ombs quite well. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 12:09, June 3, 2021 (EDT)
+While the current quote isn't too bad, I have an idea for a good quote for the top of the page: {{quote2|We do our jobs, and when we're done, there's always another Bob-omb there to take our place. All any of us can hope for is to make an impact.|Bob-omb|Paper Mario: The Origami King}}. <br>This comes from one of the Bob-ombs boarding Bowser's airship, and I think this quote describes the general role of Bob-ombs quite well. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 12:09, June 3, 2021 (EDT)
 ::There's nothing really inherent in their design that indicates that they do it for fun like the other quote suggests, so I'd be for it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:54, December 13, 2021 (EST)
-:::I think this is better than the current one, personally. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:34, January 17, 2022 (EST)
-::::I would support changing it to this quote as well, as I feel it does a better job of acting as a general description of Bob-ombs that the current quote. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 20:44, January 17, 2022 (EST)
-With the Super Mario RPG remake out, an even better quote has come along: "Watch out. I'm gonna explode. It'll hurt." - their Thought Peek quote (which in the original game was "Ouch! Hey, watch it!"){{User:Swallow/sig}} 20:40, November 22, 2023 (EST)
-:Eh, I still think the TOK one is better. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:07, November 22, 2023 (EST)
-::I like the brevity of the Super Mario RPG one. {{User:Mario/sig}} 02:57, November 23, 2023 (EST)
 ==Split SMB2 version from the rest of the page?==
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 Apparently there's something in the Japanese manual for Mario 3 that makes note of the connection between the two enemies, but otherwise, they're treated as totally separate entities despite the similarities. Pretty much everything else I've found indicates that "Bob-ombs" as we know them are treated as first appearing in Mario 3 in Japanese sources, apparently the Smash Bros. Melee trophy listing them as having first appeared in Mario 2 was also altered in localization and lists Super Mario World as their first appearance instead in Japan. I'm on the fence about whether splitting them would be a good idea, as I think there's a pretty solid case for both sides, but I wanted to know what other people think. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 01:09, December 13, 2021 (EST)
 :[[User talk:LinkTheLefty/Archive 7#Japanese Bob-omb|Doc]] and [[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick/Archive 3#Re:Japanese Bob-omb|I]] discussed this, and I think we agree that the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' info essentially killed that idea. At the time of its initial release, ''Super Mario USA'' would not be released in Japan for years. The Japanese manual clearly alludes to the enemy being from ''Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic'' in the untranslated third sentence, which was understandably simplified in the English version with the same name previously used in the western ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' to get the same point across. Outside of the ''Mario'' rebrand, both appearances are fairly identical, especially with the keyless ones exploding on their own after several seconds. Note that ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' seems to be a little more shy than ''Super Mario World'' would later be about borrowing ''Doki Doki Panic'' elements, as Lava Lotus also seems to be based on Panser. Additionally, even though several source books generally have a few minor issues, [[User talk:Mister Wu/30th Anniversary Books Related Questions/Archive 1#Super Mario Pia|we know of at least one that also considers them one and the same]]. ''Super Smash Bros.'' series trophies were never strictly about listing the debut in Japanese, by the way, but rather listing whichever appearances were deemed notable, which is why there are perceived errors in the English version (''Melee'' for example stripped it down to one, giving the wrong impression). Consider also that it wasn't until ''for Wii U'' that any trophies acknowledged ''Doki Doki Panic'', and Nintendo has a (frankly outdated) way of segregating game chronology by region instead of worldwide overall, so believing that the Japanese (''Mario'') debut was ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' is technically correct by some standards. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 03:17, December 13, 2021 (EST)
-::Fair enough, I was pretty unsure which way to go for this one due to the presence of that manual tidbit. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 18:29, December 13, 2021 (EST)
-== Uhhhh...What? ==
-Look at 1.1.14. It says "Super Mario Maker SUBSERIES". Why does it say that, when we don't split Super Mario (series) into subseries? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:35, March 26, 2024 (CST)