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:[[User talk:LinkTheLefty/Archive 7#Japanese Bob-omb|Doc]] and [[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick/Archive 3#Re:Japanese Bob-omb|I]] discussed this, and I think we agree that the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' info essentially killed that idea. At the time of its initial release, ''Super Mario USA'' would not be released in Japan for years. The Japanese manual clearly alludes to the enemy being from ''Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic'' in the untranslated third sentence, which was understandably simplified in the English version with the same name previously used in the western ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' to get the same point across. Outside of the ''Mario'' rebrand, both appearances are fairly identical, especially with the keyless ones exploding on their own after several seconds. Note that ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' seems to be a little more shy than ''Super Mario World'' would later be about borrowing ''Doki Doki Panic'' elements, as Lava Lotus also seems to be based on Panser. Additionally, even though several source books generally have a few minor issues, [[User talk:Mister Wu/30th Anniversary Books Related Questions/Archive 1#Super Mario Pia|we know of at least one that also considers them one and the same]]. ''Super Smash Bros.'' series trophies were never strictly about listing the debut in Japanese, by the way, but rather listing whichever appearances were deemed notable, which is why there are perceived errors in the English version (''Melee'' for example stripped it down to one, giving the wrong impression). Consider also that it wasn't until ''for Wii U'' that any trophies acknowledged ''Doki Doki Panic'', and Nintendo has a (frankly outdated) way of segregating game chronology by region instead of worldwide overall, so believing that the Japanese (''Mario'') debut was ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' is technically correct by some standards. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 03:17, December 13, 2021 (EST) | :[[User talk:LinkTheLefty/Archive 7#Japanese Bob-omb|Doc]] and [[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick/Archive 3#Re:Japanese Bob-omb|I]] discussed this, and I think we agree that the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' info essentially killed that idea. At the time of its initial release, ''Super Mario USA'' would not be released in Japan for years. The Japanese manual clearly alludes to the enemy being from ''Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic'' in the untranslated third sentence, which was understandably simplified in the English version with the same name previously used in the western ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' to get the same point across. Outside of the ''Mario'' rebrand, both appearances are fairly identical, especially with the keyless ones exploding on their own after several seconds. Note that ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' seems to be a little more shy than ''Super Mario World'' would later be about borrowing ''Doki Doki Panic'' elements, as Lava Lotus also seems to be based on Panser. Additionally, even though several source books generally have a few minor issues, [[User talk:Mister Wu/30th Anniversary Books Related Questions/Archive 1#Super Mario Pia|we know of at least one that also considers them one and the same]]. ''Super Smash Bros.'' series trophies were never strictly about listing the debut in Japanese, by the way, but rather listing whichever appearances were deemed notable, which is why there are perceived errors in the English version (''Melee'' for example stripped it down to one, giving the wrong impression). Consider also that it wasn't until ''for Wii U'' that any trophies acknowledged ''Doki Doki Panic'', and Nintendo has a (frankly outdated) way of segregating game chronology by region instead of worldwide overall, so believing that the Japanese (''Mario'') debut was ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' is technically correct by some standards. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 03:17, December 13, 2021 (EST) | ||
::Fair enough, I was pretty unsure which way to go for this one due to the presence of that manual tidbit. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 18:29, December 13, 2021 (EST) | ::Fair enough, I was pretty unsure which way to go for this one due to the presence of that manual tidbit. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 18:29, December 13, 2021 (EST) | ||