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== Prune "sports" information ==
== Prune "sports" information ==
{{settled TPP}}
{{TPP}}
{{proposal outcome|failed|3-0-5|Do not prune "sports" information}}
In the "sports" games (''Kart'', ''Baseball'', etc), these are treated as interchangeable with any other colored Shy Guy they share the game with. Different stats in baseball? Every other Shy Guy color has different stats as well. Different item in ''Tour''? Same goes for all the others. We already removed "miscellaneous" information from [[White Shy Guy]] and [[Red Boo]], so it makes sense to do the same here. The subjects here might be "black Shy Guys," but they aren't the elite-coded "Black Shy Guys," so to speak.
In the "sports" games (''Kart'', ''Baseball'', etc), these are treated as interchangeable with any other colored Shy Guy they share the game with. Different stats in baseball? Every other Shy Guy color has different stats as well. Different item in ''Tour''? Same goes for all the others. We already removed "miscellaneous" information from [[White Shy Guy]] and [[Red Boo]], so it makes sense to do the same here. The subjects here might be "black Shy Guys," but they aren't the elite-coded "Black Shy Guys," so to speak, and we don't split every other color that acts the same (Blue, Pink, etc; these are just as non-notable in those shared-role appearances).


The only real exception here is ''Tennis Aces'', but since it's giant I think it would do better on the [[Mega Guy]] page (where it already is).
The only real exception here is ''Tennis Aces'', but since it's giant I think it would do better on the [[Mega Guy]] page (where it already is).


'''Proposer''': {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>September 21, 2024, 23:59 (GMT)</s> Extended to September 28, 2024, 23:59 (GMT)
'''Deadline''': September 21, 2024, 23:59 (GMT)


===Support - and remove ''Tennis Aces''===
===Support - and remove ''Tennis Aces''===
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per
#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Per proposal.
#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Tails777}} I will continue to stand by my preferred stance of splitting colored variants. But where the wiki currently stands on that matter, I'd rather remain consistent with the current method at least.
#{{User|Blinker}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Blinker}} Per proposal.
<s>{{User|Tails777}} I will continue to stand by my preferred stance of splitting colored variants. But where the wiki currently stands on that matter, I'd rather remain consistent with the current method at least.</s>


===Support - but keep ''Tennis Aces''===
===Support - but keep ''Tennis Aces''===
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#{{User|Waluigi Time}} If we have a page for something we might as well cover all of the relevant information. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts and all that.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} If we have a page for something we might as well cover all of the relevant information. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts and all that.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per Waluigi Time, especially in the comments.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per Waluigi Time, especially in the comments.
#{{User|DryBonesBandit}} Per WT.
#{{User|Pseudo}} Per Waluigi Time.
#{{User|Shy Guy on Wheels}} Per Waluigi Time.


===Comments===
===Comments===
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{{@|Waluigi Time}} - Thoughts on [[White Shy Guy]] and [[Red Boo]], then? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:17, September 7, 2024 (EDT)
{{@|Waluigi Time}} - Thoughts on [[White Shy Guy]] and [[Red Boo]], then? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:17, September 7, 2024 (EDT)
:I would support overturning those proposals. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 21:53, September 7, 2024 (EDT)
:I would support overturning those proposals. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 21:53, September 7, 2024 (EDT)
::Well, while I disagree on that being the proper path forward, I'm happy to see that you are consistent with your beliefs. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:00, September 8, 2024 (EDT)
I disagree that any random Shy Guy that is black should be considered the same as the elite-coded (or at least specialized) "Black Shy Guys" codified in ''Yoshi's Story'' and ''Paper Mario''. Otherwise, for consistency, we'd need articles for every random red, blue, pink, yellow, green, orange, ''et cetera'' Shy Guys, and that's far too much, especially since they're usually interchangeable and have differed between SMB2 and its enhanced reissues anyway. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:05, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
:Couldn't it be compared to our coverage of winged and big enemies in Mario Maker, where they only get articles if they were also in other games? {{User:Hewer/sig}} 08:35, September 23, 2024 (EDT)
::I suppose, and how generic creatures only get sections in prose on their articles (if they get articles at all) if they affect gameplay in some notable capacity. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:46, September 23, 2024 (EDT)

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