Editing Talk:Big Piranha Plant

Are you sure this is called the Super Piranha Plant?<br>[[User:Confused|<span style="color:Red;">I</span>]] [[User talk:Confused|<span style="color:Blue;">am</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Confused|<span style="color:Green;">Confused</span>]] 12:08, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

:I am pretty sure it was officially listed as such in the official NSMB player's guide. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

I think it is called that on the official nintendo site.--[[User:Luigibros2|Luigibros2]] 00:12, 22 November 2007 (EST)

On the NSMB World 2-3 link, it links to "Giant" and not "Super". --[[User:Big-bang|Big-bang]]

I though the MKDD Piranha from Dry Dry Desert was called '''Quicksand Piranha'''... {{User:Vini64/sig}}

Does anyone know this Piranha Plant's japanese name? -[[User:FourPaperHeroes|<span style="color:green">'''Four'''</span> <span style="color:grey">'''Paper'''</span>]] [[User talk:FourPaperHeroes|<span style="color:green">'''Heroes'''</span>]] [[File:FourPaperHeroes.jpg|35px]] 07:26, 2 February 2011 (EST)


==Split?==
Should the Piranha Plant from ''Mario Kart Double Dash'' really remain merged with this article? I mean look at them, they look and behave completely different from one another and there seems to be no evidence or reason as to why they're merged, even on the article itself its mentioned that part is conjectural. So should there be a proposal for a split or is there a manual or something somewhere that mentions these two are indeed one and the same? -[[User:FourPaperHeroes|<span style="color:green">'''Four'''</span> <span style="color:grey">'''Paper'''</span>]] [[User talk:FourPaperHeroes|<span style="color:green">'''Heroes'''</span>]] [[File:FourPaperHeroes.jpg|35px]] 22:18, 24 November 2011 (EST)

I kinda agree with Four Paper Heroes. If someone knows their japenese name, we should split, as they are very different. {{User:ThePremiumYoshi/sig}} 18:10, 3 December 2011 (EST)

one should vamoose out of the other one's article. {{user:CatJedi/sig}}

==TPP: Merge Piranhacus Giganticus with Big Piranha Plant==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|red|don't merge 1-4}}
I already commented about this [[Talk: Piranhacus Giganticus|here]] a long while ago, and now I'm proposing the merging of these articles for three reasons. First, while Piranhacus Gigantici and Big Piranha Plants are found in pipes and out of them, respectively, the regular Piranha Plants have been seen in both forms, and those two forms are same species. Second, both giant Piranhas have the same Japanese name, でかパックンフラワー (Deka Pakkunfurawā), meaning "Huge Piranha Flower", so the two forms are considered the same species in Japan. Third, the name Piranhacus Giganticus hasn't been used since ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', I believe, and since Big Piranha Plant has been recently used more often and officially, it outrules Piranhacus Giganticus by this wiki's [[MarioWiki:Naming|naming policies]].

'''Proposer:''' {{User|SmokedChili}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' June 21, 2014, 23:59 GMT

===Merge the pages===
#{{User|SmokedChili}} Per proposal.

===Don't do it===
#{{User|Stonehill}} There ''is'' actually a difference between the two. The first is that they obviously have different names. The second is that Piranhacus Gigantici are actually Big Piranha Plants that spawn from pipes. In addition, ''normal'' Big Piranha Plants don't spawn out of pipes, at least that's what I've seen in recent games. Therefore, we should treat them separately.
#{{User|Vommack}} Per Stonehill.
#{{User|Koopakoolklub}} Piranicus Gigantici are waaay huger than Big Piranha Plants.
#{{User|Ghost Jam}} I feel that we have enough evidence of the differences that they should stay separate.

===Comments===
I'm fairly sure that Giganticus was what was used in NSMBU, which would be about as recent as it gets.--[[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 13:13, 8 June 2014 (EDT)

Piranhacus Giganticus appears in ''Super Mario 64'', where they clearly do NOT spawn from pipes. They just grow, throw a fireball, and shrink. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:18, 9 June 2014 (EDT)
:Yeah, about that: How accurate is this wiki when it says they're called "Venus Fire Traps" in English in that game? Because the closest source I can think of would be a guide. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 10:39, 10 June 2014 (EDT)
::Wait, why are they called Piranhacus Giganticus AND [[Big Fire Piranha Plant]]? Weird, isn't it? {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:23, 11 June 2014 (EDT)
:::Well anyway, if they're called Piranhacus Gigantici in SM64, that'd actually help my argument. That means we have the huge Piranhas out of pipes going by names "Piranhacus Giganticus" and "Big Piranha Plant", thus there's no true specification or split between the two. And since the latter has slowly become more common name in official material, I think we should have all huge Piranha -related info in one article instead of making unnecessary splits because of objects with same common original name having minor differences between them. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 16:17, 13 June 2014 (EDT)
::::Even though I opposed in this proposal, I do have the feeling that SmokedChili actually brought up a good point. Maybe Piranhacus Gigantici were misnomers in games prior to ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'', but this could become another dispute like 3D World Toad. <font face="Stencil">{{color-link|User:Stonehill|#5f9ea0|STONE-HILL!!!}}</font> <sub>'''''[[User talk:Stonehill|At last, the rock fell.]]'''''</sub> 22:57, 21 June 2014 (EDT)

==another split==
I think we should have another split. this time with super Mario odyssey in this game ''big piranha plants'' shoot poison at the player it should have it's own page called ''big poison piranha plant'' who agrees? 
the Yoshi co. 12.46 pm
:We'll wait until ''Odyssey'' gets released to see if there is an official name first. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:53, 25 July 2017 (EDT)
ok alex. the Yoshi co. 12.54 pm.