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==Split Big Lantern Ghost and Mega Kantera== | ==Split Big Lantern Ghost and Mega Kantera== | ||
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Ok, this is different from Raphael the Raven and Giant Raven as these one are different eachother and unlike both the Giant Raven and Raphael the Raven, they have some differences eachother. The one from Paper Mario's Japanese name is Big Kantera-Kun while the one from Yoshi's New Island's Japanese name is Mega Kantera. There are physical differences too, as the one from Paper Mario has a bandage, is roughly the same size as the [[Tetu Kantera|mettalic Lantern Ghost]], and has a different Lantern. | Ok, this is different from Raphael the Raven and Giant Raven as these one are different eachother and unlike both the Giant Raven and Raphael the Raven, they have some differences eachother. The one from Paper Mario's Japanese name is Big Kantera-Kun while the one from Yoshi's New Island's Japanese name is Mega Kantera. There are physical differences too, as the one from Paper Mario has a bandage, is roughly the same size as the [[Tetu Kantera|mettalic Lantern Ghost]], and has a different Lantern. | ||
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==Remerge Mega Kantera with Big Lantern Ghost, or split Big/Giant Shy Guy from Mega Guy== | ==Remerge Mega Kantera with Big Lantern Ghost, or split Big/Giant Shy Guy from Mega Guy== | ||
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I think enough time has passed to readdress the split of Mega Kantera from Big Lantern Ghost. One of the key reasons for the split is because of different Japanese names; however, as [[#Oppose|mentioned]], differently-sized enemy variants are known to be inconsistent (not only just in terms of naming, but also in regards to the actual size itself; for instance, compare a big enemy in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' games). Additionally, we have incongruent treatment for Big/Giant Shy Guy, which is considered the same as Mega Guy. If Mega Kantera (メガカンテラ, ''Mega Kantera'') remains split from Big Lantern Ghost (ビッグカンテラくん, ''Biggu Kantera-kun''), then it's only logical to also split Big/Giant Shy Guy (ビッグヘイホー, ''Biggu Heihō'') from Mega [Shy] Guy (メガヘイホー, ''Mega Heihō''). However, the only set of big enemies that the wiki distinguishes from the same enemy of similar size are the enlarged boss enemies from the ''Yoshi's Island'' series, which generally have more differences than just their increased size such as appearance, moveset, etc. Furthermore, several lines of dialog refer to it as "the" or "a" Big Lantern Ghost in ''Paper Mario'', implying that there is more than one of it, and like the giant Raven in ''Yoshi's New Island'', only one of it shows up in the game. Therefore, the ''Yoshi's New Island'' appearance is likely a reinterpretation of the same enemy, with the Japanese renaming the "''Big''" enemy to a "''Mega''" enemy because "''Big''" enemies are, for the most part, established to be bosses in the ''Yoshi's Island'' series. | I think enough time has passed to readdress the split of Mega Kantera from Big Lantern Ghost. One of the key reasons for the split is because of different Japanese names; however, as [[#Oppose|mentioned]], differently-sized enemy variants are known to be inconsistent (not only just in terms of naming, but also in regards to the actual size itself; for instance, compare a big enemy in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' games). Additionally, we have incongruent treatment for Big/Giant Shy Guy, which is considered the same as Mega Guy. If Mega Kantera (メガカンテラ, ''Mega Kantera'') remains split from Big Lantern Ghost (ビッグカンテラくん, ''Biggu Kantera-kun''), then it's only logical to also split Big/Giant Shy Guy (ビッグヘイホー, ''Biggu Heihō'') from Mega [Shy] Guy (メガヘイホー, ''Mega Heihō''). However, the only set of big enemies that the wiki distinguishes from the same enemy of similar size are the enlarged boss enemies from the ''Yoshi's Island'' series, which generally have more differences than just their increased size such as appearance, moveset, etc. Furthermore, several lines of dialog refer to it as "the" or "a" Big Lantern Ghost in ''Paper Mario'', implying that there is more than one of it, and like the giant Raven in ''Yoshi's New Island'', only one of it shows up in the game. Therefore, the ''Yoshi's New Island'' appearance is likely a reinterpretation of the same enemy, with the Japanese renaming the "''Big''" enemy to a "''Mega''" enemy because "''Big''" enemies are, for the most part, established to be bosses in the ''Yoshi's Island'' series. | ||