Editing Talk:Big Chain Chomp

== Do what the above section header indicates and merge to [[Chomp Shark]] ==

See above. "Biggu" in the context of this franchise is almost exclusively used for large enemies and bosses in the ''Yoshi'' games. And while it doesn't act really like Chomp Shark, it is worth noting that [[Blindfold Boo]] also doesn't act like its SMW2 originator; in fact, that acts like Chomp Shark! Anyways, aside from JP name, these have similar nonstandard eye position, are of the chainless "Chomp" variety, and their position in the glossary does not indicate that in considers it a "new" enemy (those being [[Walruss]] and the [[Starfish]]). It's certainly not the same thing as what it's merged with now, at any rate.

== Merge Chomp Shark with this article ==

I was going to wait until the [[Talk:Big Chomp and Little Chomp#Merge this article with the Mario Party 3 section of the Chain Chomp article|Big Chomp and Little Chomp proposal]] was over before doing this as two of its options involve these articles, but that proposal is currently stagnating and doesn't actually have a clear consensus, so I'm doing this now <s>because I'm impatient</s> to help push it forward. The Japanese names of Chomp Shark and Big Chain Chomp are ''Biggu Wanwan'' and ''Deka Wanwan'' respectively, which generally mean the same thing - "Big Chain Chomp". Chomp Shark has a separate article because of its unique behavior in the ''Yoshi's Island'' series and non-generic English name (English ''YI'' flowering up the names being par for the course), but then the above proposal got the ''Super Princess Peach'' one added to the article solely because it had the same Japanese name, despite not sharing its unique behavior or English name. (Note that ''SPP'''s English translation kinda sucks; see "[[Petey Piranha#Super Princess Peach|Boss P. Plant]]", "[[Volcano Lotus#Super Princess Peach|Volcano Plant]]", and "[[Spike Top#Super Princess Peach|Mecha-Spike Top]]".) So if Chomp Shark isn't defined by its behavior, then what does define it? The answer: nothing. They're both giant Chomps, with the only distinguishing factor with how we're handling them now being the Japanese name, which is inconsistent with how we handle other giant enemy variants, whose names tend to vary even in Japanese. Therefore, I don't see a reason to keep them split.

#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} I've always felt like this is mainly a holdover of the archaic "Chain Chomp=/=Chomp" distinction. And while I'm aware that the ''Yoshi's Island'' series usually pegs "''Biggu''" as something more transformative than the usual giant enemies, I think that's the keyword - "transformative". Chomp Shark is just a regular enemy instead of one of Kamek's various transformed bosses, which is where I think most if not all of the distinction lays. And as I've mentioned [[Talk:Chomp Shark#Big Chain Chomp|here]], it seems they were [[tcrf:Proto:Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island/ys romX 0#World 3|originally]] to be known as「きょだいワンワン」 (''Kyodai Wanwan'', Giant Chain Chomp), which incidentally made it to at least [https://archive.org/details/nintendo-magazine-system-uk-43-april-1996/page/66/mode/2up one] preview and is still used to refer to Incoming Chomps [[Watch Out Below!#Names in other languages|here]]. That would've fit it much more in line with the typical "''Kyodai''/''Deka''" terms. I'm against the alternative because I still agree with the above proposal's assessment that it's not a "new" enemy.

#{{User|Arend}} [[Talk:Big Chomp and Little Chomp#Comments|I had already stated before]] that I find Chomp Shark not quite distinct enough to be its own article - maybe if it got a Japanese name that isn't just "Big Chain Chomp" or anything related to size, as we have [[Big Goomba]] and Giant Goomba share an article, which also tend to have differing Japanese names like Kyodai Kuribo and Deka Kuribo.

====Move the ''SPP'' section of Chomp Shark back here====

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