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| :I'd surmise that appearing in more than one game (remember, they're counting the e-reader level) is enough to fulfill the conditions for a recurring boss. [[User:Lord Grammaticus|Lord Grammaticus]] ([[User talk:Lord Grammaticus|talk]]) 08:41, 7 January 2014 (EST) | | :I'd surmise that appearing in more than one game (remember, they're counting the e-reader level) is enough to fulfill the conditions for a recurring boss. [[User:Lord Grammaticus|Lord Grammaticus]] ([[User talk:Lord Grammaticus|talk]]) 08:41, 7 January 2014 (EST) |
| ::Ok, but that is only one extra level. [[File:Yoshis Story Bobomb.png|35px]][[User: RandomDSplayer|RandomDS]][[User Talk: RandomDSplayer|player]][[File:Yoshis Story Bobomb.png|35px]] 18:49, 10 January 2014 (EST)
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| == Should be merged with Big Boo... ==
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| How is this enemy any different from regular Big Boos? Big Boos were just called "The Big Boo" back then, it doesn't mean it's an individual, it's just a naming quirk (see "The Big Boo" in SMRPG). It's just a Big Boo that you have to fight, it's no different from the other ones aside from that. It's certainly not named differently. They were ALL called "The Big Boo", which was fine back then as you only ever met one at a time, so you could argue it was the same one each time. Not so much anymore. [[User:Fizzle|Fizzle]] ([[User talk:Fizzle|talk]]) 12:12, 18 January 2014 (EST)
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| :Yeah, all of those NES/SNES/N64 game manuals refer to enemies as if they're individual. Making a separate pag because of an obvious stylistic choice is pretty dumb. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 08:38, 19 January 2014 (EST)
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| ==Merge The Big Boo (boss) with Big Boo==
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| {{Settled TPP}}
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| {{Proposal outcome|failed|2-6|do not merge}}
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| There isn't really any reason to keep this separated from the general Big Boo article. As noted above, generic Big Boos are also called "The Big Boos" both in-game and in [http://proplayers.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Super_Mario_World_-_1991_-_Nintendo1.pdf the manual], which has various enemy descriptions that alternate between singular and plural, individual and species. It also has the same Japanese name as Big Boos. As for its behavior, what about it? ''Super Mario World'' has enemies that can behave in different ways, sometimes without any difference in appearance, like Monty Moles which either charge towards Mario or walk forward while hopping.
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| '''Proposer:''' {{User|SmokedChili}}<br>
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| '''Deadline:''' November 9, 2015, 23:59
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| ===Merge===
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| #{{User|SmokedChili}} Per proposal.
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| #{{User|Time Turner}} Considering the prevalence of larger-than-normal Boos in later titles and the very minimal difference in ability, I'm inclined to merge it.
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| ===Keep split===
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| #{{User|LudwigVon}} I think it's better to let this split, because they have different behavior in the game. Also, Big Boo is bluish and The Big Boo (boss) is more white. The Big Boo also appear in a different game (Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3). For me, it make good reasons to let this split.
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| #{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per Bazooka Mario in the comments.
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| #{{User|Marshal Dan Troop}} Considering the difference between this Big Boo and regular Big Boos I think we should keep this article split.
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| #{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all, including Bazooka Mario in the comments.
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| #{{User|BabyLuigi64}} Per all opposers and Bazooka Mario's comment.
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| #{{User|Bazooka Mario}} Didn't expect my concerns to garner support. After waiting for a while for a counterargument, I'm gonna just cast my vote now. Per all and me.
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| ===Comments===
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| This Big Boo doesn't freeze and hide when Mario looks at it, and it can also be defeated by throwing blocks at it. Mario and Luigi can also pass through it. Behavioral differences, sure, but you fight only one Big Boo and in a very specific spot in the game. I'm inclined toward keeping them split just on these notable differing traits. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:45, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ==Should this be moved to "The Big Boo"?==
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| That is what the guide calls it after all. It's an official distinction. At the very least, it should be moved to "Big Boo (Donut Secret House)" {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} 01:28, 1 August 2017 (CT)
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| :The guide calls it both "The Big Boo" and "Big Boo", so the name itself is fine. The identifier should still be changed as there have since been Big Boo bosses in ''Yoshi's Safari'', ''Mario's Pinball Land'', etc. Unless the article is changed to include the other bosses, I'm thinking "Big Boo (''Super Mario World'' boss)" or "Big Boo (Donut Secret House boss)" (due the non-boss Big Boo also present in the course). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 02:55, 1 August 2017 (EDT)
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| ==Italian name==
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| From which source did you get the Italian name? In the Italian manual the name is in English.--[[User:Sonic98|Sonic98]] ([[User talk:Sonic98|talk]]) 07:40, 27 September 2018 (EDT)
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| :Looks like it was added in [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Big_Boo_(boss)&diff=1138507&oldid=1138495 2011] by a user who unfortunately isn't active anymore. From what I've found, it looks like "Re Boo" is the Italian name for the Big Boos in Super Mario 64, which used to be covered on this page when that name was added. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 08:53, 27 September 2018 (EDT)
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| == State of this article ==
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| I'm curious as to why the enemy Big Boo gets the part in the main article while this gets anecdotally tacked on as a separate page. What gives the enemy more merit than the boss to be on the main Big Boo page? Sure, Big Boos appear commonly as enemies in later games....but in the ''Super Mario'' series, Big Boos reappeared as bosses before they did as enemies. And not even as a differently-acting enemy, SMA4 came out long before NSMBW. Heck, in the ''Mario'' franchise as a whole, a singular boss Big Boo appeared first next in ''Yoshi's Safari''. What I'm saying ultimately amounts to why is the enemy given more priority than the boss for SMW? It appears more in the game? That's to be expected given the role, so that really doesn't work. Really, though, they're differently-acting versions of the same thing with the ''same name''. And that thing about the different colors also isn't true, the boss is more transparent but uses the same palette. I think they can share the main article, just in different paragraphs. Admittedly, there aren't a lot of cases where an enemy appears as a differently-acting boss in this franchise (the only other examples I can think of offhand is Prince Froggy who at least has a different English name, with Mask Gate's situation being comparable), but I think this should work. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:04, November 20, 2019 (EST)
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| :It makes perfect sense to me, the Big Boo article is for the species. As for whether they should share a page or not, I have no strong feelings either way at this time. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 19:18, November 20, 2019 (EST)
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| ::But the Big Boo article has multiple individuals on it (Safari, Pinball Land, Galaxy 2, Adventures, LMDM, TTYD, Party games...) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:23, November 20, 2019 (EST)
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| :::Nevermind, I misread your comment. Sorry for the misunderstanding. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 19:35, November 20, 2019 (EST)
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| ::::OK, minor detail amending, there actually was a single enemy Big Boo in SMA4. But there were two instances of a boss Big Boo, so it was still the more "important" version in that case, if we're going by "amount of each in game" as a metric for that. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:14, November 30, 2019 (EST)
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| :::::I think the pages should be merged. Why does this particular Big Boo get more special treatment than say, the one from [[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon]]? [[User:Polterpup|Polterpup]] ([[User talk:Polterpup|talk]]) 14:30, December 22, 2019 (EST)
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| ::::::The one from ''Dark Moon'' is far more generic than this one. But if I'm going to be honest, that one deserves its own page, too. In that case, this page should be renamed to specify that this is about the one from ''Super Mario World''. - [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]] ([[User talk:AwdryFan1997|talk]]) 13:09, January 8, 2021 (EST)
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| == Rename ==
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| It would be ten times easier if it would be called "The Big Boo" since basically all the links to this page still use that name. Moreover, it gets rid of the specification "(boss)" currently used and marks a bigger difference between [[Big Boo]]s and this boss. [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 14:50, January 5, 2021 (EST)
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| == Merge to [[Big Boo]] part Too ==
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| {{Settled TPP}}
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| {{Proposal outcome|passed|5-0|merge}}
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| 6 1/2 years ago, back when we had a separate page for the ''Paper Mario'' appearances of Big Boo, this page failed to merge, partially due to some false information. I'm gonna throw this out of the way right now, the alleged "color difference" is straight-up false; they use the same palette, with the boss being on the Mode 7 layer with translucency applied, causing it to [https://www.spriters-resource.com/snes/smarioworld/sheet/143265/#comments look] as though it changes shades depending on how transparent it's set to be. Anyways, with the seeming exception of ''Mario Mania'' (which also splits ''actual'' color variations), all guidebooks treat these two interchangeably, with the manual even implying all the Big Boos in the game are the same individual. Additionally, another point I brought up above: until ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'', Big Boos were almost exclusively used as bosses for quite a while in the ''Mario'' franchise (SM64, TTYD, MPL, etc), so why should the enemy have the priority? Especially in regards to SMA4, where this version outnumbers the generic enemy two to one?
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| Some of you may be wondering how I plan on dealing with the total difference in behavior. Short answer: same page, same section, separate paragraph. Easy!
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| '''Proposer''': {{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}}<br>
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| '''Deadline''': May 11, 2022, 23:59 GMT
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| ===Support===
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| #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per
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| #{{User|Somethingone}} Unlike [[King Boo (Super Mario Sunshine)|the drunkard king]], which has more than enough reason to be exempt from a merge, this guy is literally just a enlarged boo with the same name as the other big boos. Strongly support.
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| #{{User|Wikiboy10}} Yeah, I thought about this one on the Discord server. While the Big Boo bosses sometimes have an exclusive Japanese name, it is also sometimes shared with the Big Boo enemies, I feel it's one of those special cases where a subject has more than one Japanese name.
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| #{{User|LinkTheLefty}} With the boss identifier, this page really should've been all or nothing.
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| #{{User|SmokedChili}} Per all.
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| @Swallow Outside of the mention of "Big Blue Boo" in the trivia section, what source material in what language considers this guy a separate thing from normal Big Boos?{{unsigned|Somethingone}}
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| :I'm removing my vote for now since it was an assumption, but I'm still unsure which to do. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 07:43, April 27, 2022 (EDT)
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| Again, the reason this got split was due to pretty notable behavioral differences and a scripted event in one specific location, as well as a particular method for defeating. This is on top of other Big Boos that do appear in the game and act similar to normal Boos. Why it's more "notable" than Big Boos in ''Super Mario 64''? Well several Big Boos in that game don't have a boss-like event for it, no music, and they act similar to the Boos except it takes more hits to defeat. The palette part was generally an aside. Either way I can see whatever works so I'm not really in favor or oppose, I'm not entirely convinced either way. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}}
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