Editing Talk:5-Volt

===Merge 5-Volt into [[List of Implied Characters]]===
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|8-13}}
This is ridiculous. How is this noteworthy of an article if its only been implied and that the only thing seen of her is her shadow? I say merge into that. The image thing is near impossible and its stubbiness is hard to get rid of.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Booderdash}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>August 14, 2010 24:00 GMT</s><br>
'''Extended''': August 21, 2010 24:00

====Support====
#{{User|Booderdash}} Per me.
#{{User|Zero777}} I am Zero! Per Booderdash. Zero signing out.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} A silhouette is not a sufficient image for a character that is not naturally a silhouette (i.e. Dark characters in Super Paper Mario). Therefore, 5-Volt is not technically seen in-game and is thus an implied character. Per proposal.
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} Silhouette or not, she is still implied. Per all.
#{{User|Baby Mario Bloops}} - Silhouette doesn't proof that it is not implied. For example, Rosalina's family appeared in her storybook, yet they are implied.
#{{User|Mario jc}} Per all.
#{{User|Tomz123}} Per all.
#{{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}} Per all, especially Mario4Ever

====Oppose====
#{{User|Superboo922}} Per BPK497. But we should do something about it. Perhaps merge it into [[9-volt]]?
#{{User|Glowsquid}} She "appears" in more than one game and her sillouhette is seen at the Game Over screen of Touched!. When I made the Implied pages, it really was to get rid of off-hand mentions in flavor text that wouldn't matter again (ex:Old Man Skoo).
#{{User|Reversinator}} 5-Volt appears twice, in two separate games. One is with a silouhette of her, and another shows just her legs, but that proves that she isn't implied.
#{{User|Bloc Partier}} - Per all. She appears. She's ''not'' implied.
#{{User|GalacticPetey}} Per Glowsquid
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} Per all.
#{{User|FourPaperHeroes}} Per all.
#{{User|Grandy02}} Just because she isn't fully seen, she isn't just implied. She actually appears (we can't see ''all'' of her, but at least we see a ''part'' of her body at all), has a little role in 9-Volt's story and even has a few speaking lines. 5-Volt isn't less notable than other minor ''WarioWare'' characters.
#{{User|Edofenrir}} - She isn't just seen. The image on the article shows her ''talking'' directly to another character. Implied characters don't talk like that; If they do, they are not implied.
#{{User|Mr bones}} What? Implied? How can she be implied when she's seen??? A silhouette of her and her legs are seen. Per all!
#{{User|Its-a-me Yoshi!}} She's not implied. Per all.
#{{User|Fuzzipede27}} per all.
#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} Per all.
#{{User|Tomz123}} Per Glowsquid.

====Comments====
Where is she seen in the game? Since it says shes only a shadow so then we can't upload an image for it. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}

I hardly see a justification in people's reasons that a silouhette is not enough. I'd like to know ''why'' it doesn't count. Plus in another game we see 5-Volt, not silouhetted. It was just her legs, but that proves that she isn't just implied. {{unsigned|Reversinator}}
:In my vote, I said that a silhouette is not enough for characters that are not naturally silhouettes. If 9-Volt was a silhouette, it would be, since he would be a silhouette son of a silhouette. The same holds true for Dark characters in Super Paper Mario. Are you seriously considering uploading a pair of legs to represent 5-Volt in the article? By the way, make sure to sign your comment or something so I know to whom I am speaking. {{User|Mario4Ever}}

It doesn't matter if theres a picture of it. [[List of Implied Organizations]] also has pictures. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
:Organizations and characters are different. If somebody shows a logo for an organization, there's no chance it's real. But when you see a character, there's no chance that he/she's implied. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}

Reversinator's right. Also, that image shows the name of the organization, not the organization. But when I see a character, I mean, come on! If you see someone in real life, it means he/she exists 100 percent. But when you hear about someone there is maybe 90 percent he/she  exists! Right?{{User:Mr bones/sig}}

Everyone seems bent to insist that she is just an implied character, but I hardly think that this is true. She appears with a physical form in the game and she talks directly. I think that is enough to make her more than an implied character. I mean, imagine this: If there were a convenient lightbulb everywhere she appears, we would get to see her face, and nobody would question that she isn't an implied character. I don't think we should put someone on the list of implied characters just because the lightening is bad. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 14:52, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

@Supporters They just don't want to show her face! What of it? Also, Her '''legs''' were seen! It's just like the woman that you can never see her head in Tom & Jerry! Implied means mentioned! And 5 Volt was seen! Not mentioned! Okay, let's get another example, the villain in Inspector Gadget, the doctor that has a cat and they never show his face. But he's a main character! He's not implied!{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
:The difference is you actually see him interacting with other characters. {{User|Mario4Ever}}

One, she is unimportant. She basically just appears as a game over screen. The dogs and cats in Smooth Moves have more of an importance than her. She just has an article because shes a main characters mother. I mean the little alien guys in smooth moves deserve more of an article than her! Second, there is practicaly no detail of her, what she looks like, what her personatiy is, what shes like etc. Even enemies have more of a description than her. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
:She isn't unimportant. And so what if she's the main character's mother? She's still important! And like I said, she appears twice, both of which are notable. The dogs and cats aren't more important than her. She's an actual character, they're just dogs and cats (they dance, but that's beside the point). The aliens already have an article: {{fake link|Splork}}, and while they are a heck of a lot more notable, that doesn't make 5-Volt any less notable. And there is detail. We see her basic look and a little bit of personality (which is the same thing as what she's like). You're telling me that [[Drillbit Crab]], [[Love Bubble]], [[Zombie Shroom]] and [[Silky]] have more description than her? No way. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
::Yes she is. What does she basically do? Shes unimportant to the storylien. I meant BECAUSE shes the main chracter's mother you guys don't want to put her in implied. Main characters relatives can be put into implied. And so whats bad about the dogs and cats? They actually help Jimmy T. and Jimmy P. and the whole story revolves around them. Just because they're not human doesn't mean they're not important. They're actually more important than 5-volt because the story revolve around them. And the aliens don't have an article. So you're saying her basic look are legs? No, we can't see anything of her but her legs. And Drillbit crab and Love bubble actually has more description. It says how they attack, what their appearence is ,where they're at etc. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
:::You're derailing the discussion. Her significance to the storyline isn't relevant to this debate. The question is whether she is implied or not (which she isn't). - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 16:27, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::@ Baby Mario bloops Rosalinas family appears in a book. 5-Volt appears in a physical  form. -[[User:Its-a-me Yoshi!|Its-a-me Yoshi!]]

She is important to the storyline! And implied means mentioned! AND SHE WAS SEEN! I don't know about the cat's story, but they're not named! I mean, what are you gonna call'em? Cats appearing in smooth moves? But they were never merged in List of Implied Characters! About the aliens, I think Rever means [[Splunk]].{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
: By your logic, if we wrote an article on Mario's parents, they would not be implied because we see their arms at the end of Yoshi's Island, despite never being mentioned again. You call that being seen? {{User|Mario4Ever}}

@Mario4ever Actually there is an article about Mario's parents ([[Mama Mario]] and [[papa]]). And yes, if we see someone's legs, arms! It means he/she exists! It's not my logic! It's the real thing! THE real logic!{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
:Not to be rude, but do you know what implied means? Implied DOES NOT mean that something does not exist. {{User|Mario4Ever}}

Yes, Implied means hinted at existing. The parents were not hinted at existing, they're really seen.{{User:Mr bones/sig}}

== Human? ==

In the info box on the top-right of the page, it's stated that 5-Volt is human, but is she? The ''Mario'' and ''WarioWare'' settings have all sorts of interesting species, and 5-Volt's abilities of teleportation, astral projection, and general spookiness seem to allude to her being at least partially some kind of demon. As that's not outright stated, perhaps a simple "unknown" would be a better answer to this question? [[User:Twentydragon|Twentydragon]] ([[User talk:Twentydragon|talk]]) 02:23, September 13, 2021 (EDT)
:She's a cartoon mom so I doubt it. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 02:28, September 13, 2021 (EDT)
::Besides, Sneaky Gamer's description effectively calls it a fever dream. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:35, September 13, 2021 (EDT)
:::The cutscene after Anything Goes does show her with red eyes. [[User:ThisIsHowIAm|ThisIsHowIAm]] ([[User talk:ThisIsHowIAm|talk]]) 17:22, February 26, 2022 (EST)
::::Well, maybe she just gets really angry, and the demon form is to emphasize that? [[User:DrkLrdHmGree3856]] ([[User talk:DrkLrdHmGree3856|talk]]) 4:48,January 10, 2024.
== Move It ==
When will this get updated to include Warioware Move It? [[User:OngoingTalent13|OngoingTalent13]] ([[User talk:OngoingTalent13|talk]]) 20:06, November 29, 2023 (EST)
:Patience is a virtue. That said, I can get a rough draft going in a little bit. [[User:BMfan08|BMfan08]] ([[User talk:BMfan08|talk]]) 20:27, November 29, 2023 (EST)