Editing PipeProject talk:RPG items & badges

Since Badges were an issue for each game as well, I combined Yoshi Mastar's idea with this to create a good PipeProject. I'll create tables for badges to start, and keep adding Items alphabetically in the [[Items]] page (Yoshi Mastar created sections for these games). <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 01:38, 28 August 2006 (EDT)

==Clothing==
Technically not badges, this needs to go onto a separate page. [[Clothing]] affects HP & DEF in M&L: SS and all stats in M&L:PiT. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 02:23, 28 August 2006 (EDT)

:I'm missing the Location of the Oho Gear, and the Descriptions and Locations of the Heavy Slacks, Jeanie Jeans, Jeaniest Jeans, Light Slacks, and Safe Guard. Think you could help me out? =/ [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font>

::All right, it's all done, but I'm still missing those things listed above, and I don't have any descriptions for the PiT clothing. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 17:49, 29 August 2006 (EDT)

Update: I now have the descriptions for the Superstar Saga Clothing mentioned above, but I ''still'' need the locations. If anybody knows, please tell me or add it to the template. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 21:34, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

Go to www.gamefaqs.com. Click on GBA. Select M, and clcik on Superstar saga, on FAQs. You should find a guide for clothing, or look in a item FAQ.

I have looked on GameFAQs multiple times. I have also gone to Gamestop, IGN, Gamespy, Neoseeker, and Nintendo.com. I have looked through every FAQ in each, and every page of the Mario & Luigi forum in each. I have come up with no locations. If you would like to try, be my guest. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 21:43, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

That FAQ/Walkthrough doesn't show the locations of the Clothing. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 21:54, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

Look at them all!

I have.[[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 22:08, 31 August 2006 (EDT)
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:We cannot see your link. Also, while the Items FAQ has all the clothing, ''where they are found'' is missing. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 22:16, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

::I forgot you can't direct link. Also, can't you compile a complete list from multiple guides? (If I get M&L: SS, I am going to make a Clothing FAQ)
:I apologize! "Source" is the location, under In-Depth > Items > VIII Armor. CT is the castle shop and LF Little Fungitown's Shop. What an excellent find, Superchao. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 22:21, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

:May I have a few seconds of vanity? Okay, I'm done now. You're welcome.[[User:Superchao|Superchao]] 22:27, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

::Um... If one guy does items, the second bages, and the third clothing, there's nothing left.

:::Wait, wait, wait. Where is this FAQ? [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 11:04, 1 September 2006 (EDT)
:::OK. Go to www.gamefaqs.com. Search "Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga". Go to the game page and click on the second tab for Guides. Look for In-Depth FAQs, then the Items FAQ. In that sub-guide is a Armor (Clothing) Section at VIII and a Badge section at IX. It includes everything we need to know for the table. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 13:34, 1 September 2006 (EDT)

:::Ah, I see. It's the Walkthrough by Joon, correct? Nice find, however, look again. The locations I need are missing from the chart. D'oh! Good find, though. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 14:48, 1 September 2006 (EDT)
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OK, I'm confused. Comparing that Items FAQ to Clothing and Badges, it looks like an excellent, complete list has been made for both. So, what were we looking for in the first place? Also, the items will take awhile to list and create articles for each. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 14:00, 1 September 2006 (EDT)
:Ah yes, I see now. Still, that's a big improvement over the start of this PipeProject, though. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 15:57, 1 September 2006 (EDT)

::Yeah, we were looking for the locations of the five articles of clothing and two Badges mentioned above. But it is a big improvement. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 16:05, 1 September 2006 (EDT)

:::Which ones? [[User:Superchao|Superchao]] 16:05, 1 September 2006 (EDT)

::::Heavy Slacks, Jeanie Jeans, Jeaniest Jeans, Light Slacks, and Oho Gear. For Badges, we need Bros. Life and Bros. Respect. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 16:13, 1 September 2006 (EDT)

:::::Just locations? [[User:Superchao|Superchao]] 16:15, 1 September 2006 (EDT)

::::::Right. So far we only know that they're dropped by enemies. We need to know ''which'' enemies. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font>

:::::::Wow. I can't find it on Google. Or anywhere else.
==[[Badges]]==
I can fill in the tables if you want, Wayoshi. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 10:34, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
:You can help fill in the tables & create a Clothing page, which are accessories, but need to go onto a separate page. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 12:00, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
::Some clothes and badges in Superstar Saga have special effects like "Heavy-G", "Shroom Force", etc. Is there a need for another section to put these in? [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 13:12, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
:::Fantastic work on [[Clothing]], Monty. However, NO. Instead, put numbers like this: <sup>1</sup> (<nowiki><sup>1</sup></nowiki>) at the end on each effect and list those special effects at the end of the table instead. I'll be deleting those pages you made tomorrow after you've transferred the information. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 22:14, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
:::Oh, yes, sorry. If the special effects are [[:Category: Status ailments|Status ailments]], such as Heavy & Light G, they stand. Otherwise, use those notes. ;) <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 22:18, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
:Dang. Oh, well. Fix-up on the way. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 22:19, 28 August 2006 (EDT)

::Wait, I don't get it. Where do I put the <sup>1</sup>, <sup>2</sup>, etc?[[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 22:21, 28 August 2006 (EDT)
:::If the special affect is a ''status effect'', keep the article and link to it in the row from the [[Clothing]] page. Put it after the effect (I'll do an example in a minute). <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 22:24, 28 August 2006 (EDT)

==Template==
On the Clothing page, why was it necessary to list the special effects at the bottom? Wouldn't it be easier if they were just listed there? That way there would be less scrolling up and down to find out what that piece of clothing does. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 12:25, 29 August 2006 (EDT)
:No no no, that's not what I meant. For example, on the last listing, the special effect is "Randomizes gravity". Put a number after the sentence, then ''explain the effect'' at the bottom (switches each attack to Heavy, Light and Normal gravity). It's so the effect column doesn't grow too long (ie past one or at max two lines) and those who want an explanation can look at the bottom. I was rushed yesterday, but do you get it now? <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 12:59, 29 August 2006 (EDT)
::Oh, Okay, I think I've FINALLY got it, lol. I just wanted to know your reasoning beind it. I got it. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 16:03, 29 August 2006 (EDT)
:::Yes you do, exactly. Continue doing the rest of the clothes as such. :) <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 17:07, 29 August 2006 (EDT)

== Help? ==

What could I help with? [[User:Superchao|Superchao]] 17:50, 29 August 2006 (EDT)

:You'll have to ask Wayoshi. I don't really know. I think some of the Key Items from all the RPGs are lacking pages, however. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 22:18, 29 August 2006 (EDT)
:For a start, how about adding the names of items, red-linked or not, on [[Items]] page, following the precedent format. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 23:37, 29 August 2006 (EDT)

== Why me? ==

I keep getting inquiries on my talk page about when I'm going to do something or should you go ahead and do something. The fact is, while I am on often most of the time, ''this is not one of those times''. And besides that point, as part of a PipeProject, you're supposed to be working together, not wait around for the creator (which I am technically not of the whole project, Yoshi Mastar is) to say go ahead. Monty, work on those badges. Spike, leave some of the parts blank and I'll fill them in ''when I have time''. You don't need to ask me or anyone. That's what a wiki is all about, and we're one of them. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 18:18, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

Because I have no Idea how to use the dialog box, etc.--[[User:Spike|Spike]] 18:20, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

OK, I'll do that. Sorry for causing you so much trouble.--[[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 18:49, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

== M&L SS Missing Seven ==

Just to start a new section on the issue, [http://www.gamespot.com/gba/rpg/marioandluigi/show_msgs.html?topic_id=m-1-29662251 take a look at this]. Maybe it's unused badges in the English version like the PM ones, and the clothing is also missing... <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 16:25, 1 September 2006 (EDT)