Editing MarioWiki talk:Signatures

Going through the rules of this page, very few signatures conform to the rules, many signatures break several of the rules listed here, especially about the {{tem|sigbox}} limit. Shouldn't there be some kind of signature check? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:21, 18 June 2007 (EDT)
:Lol, just read the header. Good going. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:22, 18 June 2007 (EDT)
::These rules are stupid.{{User:HK-47/sig}}
:::Er... That was rash of me. I meant that several of these things seem very minor and silly. Just a few of them particularly.{{User:HK-47/sig}}
Hi {{User|Mario and Luigi Superstars Inside Time}}
== Five links rule ==

Does the five links rule apply to repeated links? When a user has two instances in his sig which link to the same page, do they count as one link or two links? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 13:22, 10 September 2007 (EDT)
:2 links. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 18:21, 10 September 2007 (EDT)

== dkpeety99 told me, ==

that ur only aloud 2 have one sig. where does it say that? other people have sigs galore! {{User:SUPERZ/Sig2}}

We should have a rule about that. I will be amending that into the policy.--{{User|Knife}} 14:25, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

== Rule 10 ==

I clicked on the link, (the one that said signature subpage) and it said "this wiki doesn't have a page for 'User:Superfiremario/Sig'." Can you help?
--{{User:Superfiremario/Sig}} 19:53, 24 May 2011 (EDT)
:I just searched for it in the search bar, and it showed up. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}
::I think it's "User:Superfiremario/sig", where "sig" is not capitalized. The search engine also does not differentiate between capitalized and noncapitalized letters, so that might be your problem. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}

==Signiature?==
How do I make a picture signature?


== I need to know how to make a perfect picture sig. ==

Mine was terrible, the pictures were too big, can someone help?
--[[User:Toadette and Koopa Bros. Lover|<span style="font-family:bold;color:purple">Toadette Rocks!</span>]] 07:39, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

:Make sure to size the pictures by having <code><nowiki>|35px]]</nowiki></code> after the file name. So something like <code><nowiki>[[File:Filename.png|35px]]</nowiki></code>. If you need further assistance with this, let me know and I'll run you through it on your talk page.

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 07:48, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

:I need help please.
--I need a new sig 07:51, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

:::'''For future reference:''' The <code><nowiki>|35px]]</nowiki></code> refers to the ''width'', and not the ''height''. Prefix it with an <code>x</code> like this <code><nowiki>|x35px]]</nowiki></code> for the height. This sets the height to max 35px, removes/do not make as a link and removes caption <code><nowiki>[[File:Example filename.svg|x35px|link=|]]</nowiki></code> --{{User:Nikenpelle/sig}} 10:45, February 24, 2024 (EST)

==Make the size of the sigbox longer==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|vetoed|This should be a full Proposal: TPP's are for merging, splitting or changing specific pages or groups of pages, not for making policy decisions.}}
I think that too many people are getting {{tem|Sigfix}} because of their signature's size. 
I feel that some of them want to be creative and need some room for it.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Gonzales Kart Inc.}} <br>
'''Deadline''': September 14, 2013, 23:59 GMT

===Support===

#{{User|Gonzales Kart Inc.}} Per...me

===Oppose===
#{{User|Megadardery}} No, the signature is already big enough, it shouldn't be that big.. I think the current size is already more than enough
#{{User|Tucayo}} - We aren't a sig showroom, what we have now is more than enough.
#{{User|Icemario11}} - Per Tucayo.
#{{User|UltraMario3000}} - Per all.
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per Tucayo.
#{{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}} M'afraid that the signature is supposed to identify the user in question, so it should not take too much space...

===Comments===

@Megadardery: It wouldn't be much bigger... besides, you give a lot of {{tem|Sigfix}} reminders anyway. {{User:MegaDigga3/sig}} 18:42, 1 September 2013 (EDT)

@Tucayo: It would only be longer. {{User:MegaDigga3/sig}} 18:46, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
:You should specify all the details in the proposal. "Increase the sigbox size" is way too broad. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 18:53, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
::You could change the title to 'Inserting the signature size limit' or something--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 19:10, 1 September 2013 (EDT)

It is already very big, and I already thought about making it smaller, but decided to wait a little before proposing it.--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 19:06, 1 September 2013 (EDT)

:Then ''everyone'' would get a sigfix. {{User:MegaDigga3/sig}} 19:10, 1 September 2013 (EDT)

::That's why I said ''"decided to wait a little before proposing it"''.--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 19:12, 1 September 2013 (EDT)

:::Really, I am actually proposing for people that don't have a sig yet. {{User:MegaDigga3/sig}} 19:19, 1 September 2013 (EDT)

::::If you visited SSBWiki before, you would see how tight is their rules, while I don't agree with the 'transcluded' rule (which means that you cannot use <nowiki>{</nowiki>{User:USER/sig}}) I love how they limit their signature height to 20px limit.--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 19:34, 1 September 2013 (EDT)

:::::Never been there, sorry {{User:MegaDigga3/sig}} 19:35, 1 September 2013 (EDT)

This really isn't something that can be decided by TPP, but if you want, you can re-launch it as a regular Proposal. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 17:38, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

== Signature Subpage link broken ==

Where it says "Your signature must be visible on your signature subpage", the link is to {{fake link|Special:Mypage/Sig}}, which is incorrect according to the top of the page (says it ''must'' be [[Special:Mypage/sig]]). {{User:Tag365/sig}} 09:22, 5 November 2013 (EST)
:Yeah, the link has a capital "Sig" instead of the lower case one. I'll bring this up to the admins, don't worry. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 12:09, 5 November 2013 (EST)

== Font ==

:''"Your signature must fit inside this box: [[File:Sigbox.svg]]."''
<div class="thumb tright" style="background:#F7F7F7">[[File:Sigbox.svg]]<br>
<font face="Arial">[[User:Another gossip-loving Toad|Another gossip-loving Toad]] ([[User talk:Another gossip-loving Toad|talk]])</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">[[User:Another gossip-loving Toad|Another gossip-loving Toad]] ([[User talk:Another gossip-loving Toad|talk]])</font><br>
<font face="Courier New">[[User:Another gossip-loving Toad|Another gossip-loving Toad]] ([[User talk:Another gossip-loving Toad|talk]])</font><br>
</div>
I don't think this works well, because the actual size of the signature depends on the fonts used.
#If your HTML code doesn't specify what font to use, then it is chosen according to your bowser's settings. People who choose "Courier New" as the default font of their bowser will see my signature breaking the rule, but others don't.
#If your HTML code specifies the fonts, it may not work on some computers that don't have them. For example, a person may use "Arial Narrow" to shorten the length of text, but if your computer doesn't have Arial Narrow, the text will be at normal length, and the rule may be broken.

--[[User:Another gossip-loving Toad|Another gossip-loving Toad]] ([[User talk:Another gossip-loving Toad|talk]]) 04:37, 18 November 2014 (EST)

== New rule suggestion ==

A rule to say your aren't allowed to hide links to pages under unrelated text [[User:Hiccup|li]][[User_talk:Hiccup|ke]] this. --[[User:Hiccup|Hiccup]] ([[User talk:Hiccup|talk]]) 08:56, 22 November 2015 (EST)
:No, that's really common practice and does no harm - unlike overly-large sigs and setting up the preferences wrong so that it just spits out the raw coding... like you just did, in fact, which just proves my point that we have enough trouble getting people to follow ''legit'' rules against distracting, sloppy eyesores: adding frivolous stipulations is the last thing we need to do. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 10:51, 22 November 2015 (EST)
::What?! I don't, and have never had a custom signature. What are you talking about? And that isn't constructive, calling my argument "frivolous" like that. --[[User:Hiccup|Hiccup]] ([[User talk:Hiccup|talk]]) 12:37, 22 November 2015 (EST)

"''setting up the preferences wrong so that it just spits out the raw coding... like you just did,''"

uh Walkazo, signing using the four tildes (<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>) will make the coding display like that. Can't really blame users for using the simplest and immediatly visible way to sign. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 12:43, 22 November 2015 (EST)
:That method of signing's the one presented in the toolbar at the top when you edit. Seems weird to give users the option and then chastise them for it. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
::It may be simple, but it works :) --[[User:Hiccup|<span style="color:#ff0000;">H</span><span style="color:#ff7f00;">i</span><span style="color:#ffff00;">c</span><span style="color:#00ff00;">c</span><span style="color:#00ffff;">u</span><span style="color:#0000ff;">p</span>]] ([[User talk:Hiccup|talk]]) 13:05, 22 November 2015 (EST)
:::Ugh, sorry, I forgot it does that instead of pasting straight <nowiki>[[User:X]]</nowiki> without the "(talk)" part (I could've ''sworn'' that's how it used to work...), and was instead {{tem|User}} being entered into the preferences without the "subst:nosubst" stuff (which ''everyone'' is always leaving out, so it's a major pet peeve of mine). That's what I get for editing in a hurry before work... - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 13:20, 22 November 2015 (EST)

==Broken Signature==

My signature is broken, help. --[[User:GrainedCargo192|&#39;&#39;&#39;&#91;&#91;File:Green Yoshi.PNG&#124;25px&#93;&#93; &#91;&#91;User:GrainedCargo192&#124;&#60;span style&#61;&#34;font-family:serif&#59;5:#f001&#34;&#62;♦GrainedCargo192♦&#60;/span&#62;&#93;&#93; &#91;&#91;File:SMWSMA2BooSprite.png&#124;25px&#93;&#93; &#39;&#39;&#39;]] ([[User talk:GrainedCargo192|talk]]) 00:32, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

== Forget signature ==

What do you do when a user forgets to sign on a talk page? [[File:Koops - PMTTYD.png|25px]][[User:Starclimber the NightWing|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#008000">Koops</span>]]''' ('''[[User talk:Starclimber the NightWing|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#008000">message</span>]]''') 12:56, 29 June 2018 (EDT)
:You would add {{tem|unsigned}} under their comment, with their name as a second parameter. For example: <code><nowiki>{{unsigned|Username}}</nowiki></code> {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:59, 29 June 2018 (EDT)

== Retired/inactive user has a rule-breaking signature ==

Time to finally bring it up. What should we do if a retired/inactive user has a rule-breaking signature, like the signature on the bottom which is too big? (And it's only one example of many) I can't give them a {{tem|sigfix}} because they are inactive and won't see it.

{{sigbox|VideoBoo}}

{{User:YoshiEgg1990/sig}} 15:16, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
:While the rule for image heights was added upon MarioWiki:Signatures's creation, there isn't much of a point of fixing these. There are a ''lot'' of inactive users, most with broken or rulebreaking sigs. If they return, they can be told to fix it. Otherwise, all they really affect are talk pages. Not much of an issue. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:26, 23 July 2018 (EDT)

== 35px height and line spacing under §7 ==

;§7 states:
 One or two small images may be used, both limited to 35 pixels in height. One animated gif may be used instead of two static images, although it is strongly discouraged. The images must not interfere with line spacing or collide with either of the lines above and below it, and if they are found to be too distracting, you will be asked to remove it. If you add your own image, it counts as one of your [[MarioWiki:Personal files|personal images]] and should be tagged with {{[[Template:Personal-file|personal-image]]|sig=yes}}.

It's the wording, <code>The images must not interfere with line spacing or collide with either of the lines above and below it, ...</code>, that I can't get to fit within the height limitation of 35px.
Font size is set to <code>font-size: 14px;</code>(15px on mobile) and <code>line-height: 1.5;</code>

In my book that gives me <code>14 * 1.5 = 21</code> to not interfere with other lines? I am wondering where the 35px comes in to play?

Maybe signatures should be rendered in a container with <code>overflow: hidden;</code>?
--{{User:Nikenpelle/sig}} 11:27, February 24, 2024 (EST)
:The part about "interfere with line spacing or collide with either of the lines" causing some confusion has been removed.[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Signatures&diff=4151147&oldid=3895248] However you can still bring up that the images on signatures are too big. I agree that the signature from Alex95[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User:Alex95/sig&diff=4151039&oldid=4150928] is distracting and impedes on discoverability/searchability but the sigbox was a bit of a compromise between readability and customization, and changing the rules to shrink the image to improve readability might invite opposition by those who use larger images. {{User:Mario/sig}} 13:58, April 27, 2024 (EDT)