Editing MarioWiki talk:Missions

"Something good may happen...30 missions." I don't like this &ndash; people just might do the missions for whatever that good thing is and then stop. This is supposed to promote collaboration for the wiki's minor, categorizing, and adding template edits that can be boring otherwise. I suggest we remove any "award" involved. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 17:11, 7 February 2007 (EST)

==Clarification==
Just to clarify, if Joe Blow gives me a mission and I feel I've completed said mission, then I just leave a message on Joe Blow's talk page? Or just change the mission status myself? -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]] 18:04, 8 February 2007 (EST)

Well, you have to ask him to check you off. I'm sure that the users that have assigned you missions right now are honest enough to check them without even asking. {{User:Knife/sig1|Sharp|OUCH!|Image:Group_focus_badge.PNG|Blue}}
:The user who assigned the mission must check it off. To make it less tedious, try doing all missions in a set first before contacting that user. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 18:07, 8 February 2007 (EST)

==New Style==
I'm thinking of changing this into a one page thing, instead of a bunch of users being assigned missions. I understand some users (who shall not be named) don't like the idea of asking another user in particular to do something. The requests should be a little more open.

If you cannot follow what I'm saying, think of the [[Trouble Center]] from PM. A person in need or trouble can post their problem on the page. Some random user can come along and commit to do it, like Mario, who could only do one thing at one time. The user who requested it can mark it as complete similar to mission pages. I'm thinking of calling this {{fakelink|MarioWiki:Trouble Center}}. The idea has evolved from challenges to missions to requests.

Now vote in a similar format to FAs and determine whether this should be done.

===MarioWiki:Trouble Center===
====Support====
#{{User:Knife/sig}}
#[[User: Ultimatetoad]] 
#[[User: Kelt]]
#{{User:Yoshi626/sig}}
#{{user:WarioLoaf/sig}} 22:22, 10 February 2007 (EST)
#[[Image:MayorPenguinPM.png]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span> {{{1|}}} I am so supporting.
#{{User:Wayoshi/sig}}
#[[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]]

====Oppose====


====Comments====
As long as I have something to do, I do'nt care
:Three things:
:1. What happens to everybody's mission page?
:2. Should every mission that's happening on every mission page be moved here?
:3. Are we still going to use the same table-style? --{{User:Yoshi626/sig}} 22:06, 10 February 2007 (EST)

:1. It can be deleted, as it is now a useless page. They will be deleted at a designated time so that people can do #2 below. Wayoshi decides the rest.
:2. It is up to the assiging user whether they want to move the mission to the trouble center page.
:3. I have no idea. Maybe we'll use a unique paper pin posted to a board thing.{{User:Knife/sig}}

I see a problem with this. The Missions offers, if anything, a nice little number for your userpage and maybe some friendly competition between users. The Trouble Center offered rewards. How are we going to make this work in a way that both makes sense and gives a person a reason to want to help? -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 22:37, 10 February 2007 (EST)

Well, not exactly like the Trouble Center, only based off it. A few things that will be changed to fit the wiki are:

#There is no reward, only a feeling of accomplishment and something to be proud of. Users can add however many missions they have done on their user page. The requests the user has done will also permanently stay on that page.
#You don't have to pay coins to back out of a request, you can simply just remove your name from that request. Also remember that a user can only sign up to do one request at a time. This means a user cannot just commit to do everything and not do them. Only one user can do one thing at a time.

{{User:Knife/sig}}

:Based off of it? I'm sorry, I think our current system works better. - [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 01:08, 11 February 2007 (EST)

But the main problem is "''I understand some users (who shall not be named) don't like the idea of asking another user in particular to do something.''" as stated above. Thats why we need one page. Do you recommend a change in the system? {{User:Knife/sig}}

After some thinking, I '''support''' this move. Think: A user wants something like a few images added to articles, but hasn't quite yet learned the proper syntax. He or she can post the trouble and have an experienced user do it. I see even more collaboration out of this than Missions, open to all. I'll create a little box for users to put on their pages to keep track of missions done. A feeling of accomplishment was originally the idea of a user's own reward. I only want Ghost Jam on board with us before we move foward. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 19:25, 11 February 2007 (EST)
:My only issue was people wanting rewards of some kind for the work. In this context, this change does make more sense. Hmmm. Alright, I'm in. -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 22:02, 11 February 2007 (EST)

== Reinstating Missions/Challenges ==

Before there was the Trouble Center, there were Challenges, later changed to Missions. Personally, I feel that these had the best effect on the wiki.

Challenges were set by users to other users. This was great because it allowed issues that the average wiki user saw to be solved while distributing the work among participating challengees. I had talked to Wayoshi at one point about maybe creating a mock rewards system for kicks, similar to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiMoney WikiMoney].

The Trouble Center had a different effect. People could ask for help on any old issue they so wished and it would be up to random users, who at this point had no real incentive to even visit the TC, to actually do the work. It ended up just being a huge backlog of problems, ranging from issues solved long ago to Troubles that covered multiple things.

I'd like to see about restarting the original Challenges/Missions system. I'd create a proposal, but I want non-timed feedback first. Thoughts? -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 20:32, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
:Meh. I fear some users will have a swelling ego because of the number of "Missions" they managed to finish. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 15:38, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
::While Blitz does have a point, I think it may still be a good idea. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 16:56, 20 October 2008 (EDT)