Editing MarioWiki talk:Blocking policy

Hey Guys you forgot to put up what is not to be done here like no hate speaches, profanity, attacking users and etc. Also a page like this is made to list of what is not to be done here like no offensive usernames. [[User:Super F22 Pilot|Super F22 Pilot]] 18:29, 4 December 2007 (EST)
:I believe that's covered in all of Section 2. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 19:00, 4 December 2007 (EST)

If it covers it then someone must show it by listing it.([[User:Super F22 Pilot|Super F22 Pilot]] 00:23, 5 December 2007 (EST))

== Attribution needed ==

Hi - a large portion of this policy contains content that was copied from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy an older version of the Wikipedia blocking policy]. It needs to be attributed accordingly on the page. Thanks, <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 17:28, 29 December 2010 (EST)

Actually, I just realized that Wikipedia is already attributed, but is in a hidden comment. This should be made visible. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 17:34, 29 December 2010 (EST)

== Typo ==

[[{{SUBJECTPAGENAME}}#See als|See als]]~~… {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

== Should there be some Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) ==

I think there should be several Frequently Asked Questions on the page for the Blocking Policy, such as:

"What happens if I evade an infinite ban by creating another account?"

or

"Can I be promoted to any form of admin even if I have been blocked in the past?"

Other questions may be included, of course.
[[User:Pdjr9000|Pdjr9000]] 15:03, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
:Neither of those are really frequently asked. All that happens when a sockpuppet is made to evade an infinite ban is that the sockpuppet gets deleted, and that doesn't happen very often in relation to other offenses because few users are brazen enough to think they can get away with it (which they can't), and I believe it's on another page, but when it is deemed necessary to promote someone to admin status, he or she gets it based on present performance rather than on past action. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}

Mario4, I think that Ban Evasion should be mentioned. Several users have evaded bans, such as Kaptain K.Rool. It should talk about what Ban Evasion is, which ways it can be done, and also what the consequences of Ban Evasion are. [[User:Pdjr9000|Pdjr9000]] 08:57, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
:That's more or less summed up in this sentence, which is already present: ''"Sockpuppets", or multiple accounts created by the same person, should be blocked permanently.'' I think the concept of ban evasion is one of common sense. If it isn't, the only time it comes up is when a sockpuppet is blocked for it, and if a user has a need to know what that means, he or she can ask an admin. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}

==Please provide Reason==
Is there any reason as to why sockpuppets should get their talkpages deleted, and vandals their userpages? [[User:Mr Man|Mr Man]] 09:43, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
:It saves space. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 11:05, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

== Sockpuppets ==

The first paragraph under the sub-heading for sockpuppets should really say "Sockpuppets (extra accounts created to violate the rules and policies of the wiki) are not allowed. They should be blocked infinitely when discovered and their talkpage should normally be deleted to save space.".[[User:Mr Man|Mr Man]] 11:50, 6 November 2011 (EST)
:I think it more or less says that, in different words. {{User:Marioguy1/sig}}

== Sockpuppets ==

When it says the last warning should be given to the user, point out that creating sockpuppets is only warnable by administrators for reasons only the proprietor knows.[[User:Mr Man|Mr Man]] 13:33, 11 November 2011 (EST)
:That isn't really necessary, as the entire page is addressed to the admins anyway, and normal users can't block other users. {{User:Bop1996/sig}}

== You are aware that... ==

An account created by a person who already has an account is only a sockpuppet if it was created to violate MarioWiki policy.[[User:Mr Man|Mr Man]] 11:12, 3 December 2011 (EST)

Not in our policy. [[User:Pokémon Trainer Red|Pokémon Trainer Red/Mario &amp; Luigi/Mario Bros.!]]

== help ==

help block me as this user and unblock meeper I did not understand mario wiki os my favorite thing please consider unblocking me.{{user|meeper}}

== IP Blocks Useless? ==

Are you sure IP blocks will stop vandalism? That Russian troll seems to have been changing his IP address and continuing to hail Yoshi as his "comrade" and even insulted an admin. {{unsigned|69.35.168.62}}

:<nowiki>*</nowiki>looks at anon suspiciously* just kidding. Though dynamic IP vandals are difficult to get rid of by just banning a single IP, range blocks can be used in extreme cases.

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 02:29, 15 May 2013 (EDT)

::I seen a policy page on Wikipedia entitled "Don't stuf beans up your nose", I wonder what would happen if MarioWiki had his page. {{unsigned|69.35.168.121}}

==Inappropriate usernames==
What are inappropriate usernames? [[User:Gizmocat444|Merry Christmas!]] ([[User talk:Gizmocat444|talk]]) 19:59, 24 December 2014 (EST)
:Swears, slurs, threats, spam, whatever. Use your imagination. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:15, 24 December 2014 (EST)

==Baby Mario==

I saw someone get blocked for editing the same thing over and over agian, is that going to happen to me? Because I edited [[Baby Mario]] about 7 times in a row yesterday. Plese reply. [[User:Mario Kart 7 Rules]] ([[User Talk:Mario Kart 7 Rules|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Mario Kart 7 Rules|edits]]) [[User:Mario Kart 7 Rules/sig]] 08:35, 25 February 2015 (EST)

== dead link ==

The two links that read "see below" on this page doesn't work. {{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}}  03:15, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

:Thanks for spotting those: they're fixed now.

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 17:03, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

== Account creation page question ==

Well, I am completely baffled.  So I can actually visit the [[Special:CreateAccount|account creation page]] (don't worry, I haven't been sockpuppeting), and I now see an extra parameter titled "Reason", and for the description it says "''Why you are creating another account''".  Why is this parameter even there if sockpuppeting is off-limits, and why can registered users visit the page anyway?  I don't plan on making another account; I'm just really confused as to why that's there. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}}
:I just visited it anonymously and the parameter is not there. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}}
::Also, what does it mean that blocked users can't log in?  That doesn't make sense and sounds like an error. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}}

== Blocking while not being ranked: 2257 ==

Hey, i was wondering how [[User:2257|2257]] was blocking vandals without being ranked. When did Porplemontage restricted blocking so that only patrollers, admins and bureaucrats can do so? And why? Just asking. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:11, 15 November 2018 (EST)
:I do not believe blocking has ever been available to users without ranks. During the time period where 2257 blocked users, he was an admin. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 08:14, 15 November 2018 (EST)
::How was his rank removed? I guess due to inactivity, right? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:15, 15 November 2018 (EST)
:::He was a bureaucrat, and he [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3A2257&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_tag_log=1 retired] and removed his rank. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 08:18, 15 November 2018 (EST)

== Restricted Blocking Privileges ==
How come only administrators and patrollers can block users? Is it because regular users might abuse blocking privileges?
Honestly, I feel like some blocked users have only spammed once and should've gotten a temporary block instead of an infinite block. [[User:Mari0fan100|Mari0fan100]] ([[User talk:Mari0fan100|talk]]) 12:20, 27 December 2018 (EST)
:I think it's because that if blocks weren't restricted, we would all block people for fun. Infinite bans are for vandal users. I at least think blocking an I.P. indefinitely is prohibited. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:50, 2 January 2019 (EST)
::Yeah, it's a trust thing. If regular users were given blocking powers, this site would be thrown into chaos. Users who sign up purely to vandalize will receive an indefinite block. Active users who made mistakes will be given warnings, followed by a 2 week -> 3 month -> indefinite ban (yes, we are sticking to that). IPs technically can be blocked indefinitely, but they shouldn't, since IPs can be used by multiple people. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:07, 2 January 2019 (EST)
::On RationalWiki, pretty much every single "regular" user (in that case, users who are here clearly not to vandalize or troll) are given block rights and we block each other for fun all the friggin time and it's fun as hell to reprimand other sysops jokefully with blocks. MarioWiki has a completely different userbase though, composed of mostly kids, so it's a bad idea in general to give every Tom, Dick, and Harry who stumbles on this wiki blocking rights. In addition, users who have spammed articles on the wiki clearly ain't here to contribute to the knowledge database and here to waste everyone's time, so I don't think an indefinite block for those types of people would lose any sort of meaningful thing for this wiki. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:32, 2 January 2019 (EST)
:::Simply put, giving every user blocking rights ''will'' cause problems. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:53, 2 January 2019 (EST)

== @sockpuppeting ==

well guess I'm through, but what if the whole same IP thing is family members?
{{unsigned|CappyThrow}}
:"Finally, siblings are often confused as being sockpuppets. To avoid this, users should acknowledge their siblings immediately upon creation, but admins can also try to avoid misunderstandings by looking at the editing patterns of the two accounts. If neither account has gotten in trouble and both are editing, it is likely different people, as there is no logical reason to divide one's edits between multiple accounts. Admins should still ask the users in question to confirm they are siblings, so that it is on record and will prevent other admins from becoming concerned and having to do their own investigations." This counts for families as well. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 6:05, 17 February 2019 (EST)

== What happens when... ==

What happens when, after my first (2-week) block, I commit a Level-1 offense that I never done before? Do I get a reminder, or does it lead to another (3-month) block? {{unsigned|LugiaLunala}}

:''"[I]f they start violating policies and/or breaking rules again, rather than receiving more warnings, they should simply be blocked again, this time for a longer duration."'' You may get an informal reminder first, but generally any rule-breaking (regardless of the action) following a {{tem|lastwarn}} leads to another block, not any more reminders or warnings. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:31, 20 February 2019 (EST)

== Unacceptable usernames ==

You said, "Bad usernames are not allowed. Admins can force a name change by blocking the original account and on the talk page, make the user create anew account". Why not instead make bureaucrats change the username instead, as you also said, "Bureaucrats can name usernames to something specific, like NoName01 or Null002"? [[User:LugiaLunala|Lugia]][[User talk:LugiaLunala|Lunala]]

:You missed the sentence in between, ''"However, if the name is bad enough, the user may simply be banned as a troll/vandal, and not invited to rejoin at all."'' which your second quote ("generic" btw, not the opposite "specific") refers to. The rename is done to hide the inappropriate username. In the first case, they're given another chance to come up with a different name for themselves; it's not up to us to give them a name for them. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:35, 5 March 2019 (EST)

::Also, when you said, "Usernames that are supposed to imposternate other users should get [[Template:Lastwarn|a last warning]] first, giving them a chance to change their username". Why not make the user with the inappropriate username change it directly rather than creating a new account? [[User:LugiaLunala|Lugia]][[User talk:LugiaLunala|Lunala]]

:::If you're referring to [[MarioWiki:Changing username]], it'd be much faster and easier for the user to just create another account. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:41, 11 March 2019 (EDT)

== Lenghts of blocking ==

Is the blocking order like this: 2 weeks, 1 month, 3 months, indefinite<br>Or like this: 2 weeks, 3 months, indefinite? Not that i necessarily care for HEROMARIO and Owencrazyboy9, but their second blocking has been 3 month instead of being their third blocking. Did the policy change? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:30, September 23, 2019 (EDT)

:''"However, this progression from two weeks through three months to a permaban is only a rule-of-thumb, and admins may choose to use longer or shorter blocks at any time."'' {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:39, September 23, 2019 (EDT)

== Spelling ==
I know this is '''''really''''' trivial, but it says “behaviour” instead of “behavior”.
[[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] ([[User talk:Grandet Omate|talk]]) 04:20, October 8, 2020 (EDT)

== Would usernames of celebrities be banned? ==

Usernames of people or events that are controversial (because they were mass shooters, murder victims or whatnot) should be banned, but would usernames of harmless celebrities (such as [[wikipedia:Terry Fox|Terry Fox]] or [[wikipedia:Lionel Messi|Lionel Messi]]) be allowed? {{User:Remembered Old Buddy/sig}} 08:52, January 14, 2024 (EST)
:Seems like a bit of a gray area to me. Said "harmless" celebrity may always go on to do something controversial, and even dead celebrities aren't safe from posthumous indictments. Like, if the wiki had a user named "KanyeWestRulez" created before Kanye made those questionable statements, would that user be forced to change their name? {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 09:30, January 14, 2024 (EST)

== Threats of harm and violence ==

According to the section titled "Automatic permanent blocks", I think it might be a good idea to put in a policy on threats of harm and violence. There has been incidents that users have dealt with in the past that consists of intimidating behavior, including threats that may consist to inflict physical or bodily harm upon another person. For example, imagine if someone made threats by wanting to shoot someone else with a firearm or trigger any other act of violence. That definitely qualifies for an immediate indefinite block from the Wiki with no warnings issued. It all states clear that people are rather angry or have a history of mental health issues, wanting to provoke others into these such credible threats.

There has also been very rare times where users have even made death threats against the President of the United States and other known government leaders across the globe. This should also make the list as a reciprocal violation that leads to an immediate indefinite block.

Everyone's safety is what needs to be secure. Mario Wiki is not an environment where any page turns into a satire scene where psychopaths feel bloodlust for vengeance, wanting to hurt others. [[User:VideoGamePhenomHD|VideoGamePhenomHD]] ([[User talk:VideoGamePhenomHD|talk]]) 13:18, May 28, 2024 (EDT)

== How do people tell if an IP address is dynamic or static? ==

Is there a specific pattern to identify or something? {{User:Remembered Old Buddy/sig}} 18:55, September 10, 2024 (EDT)