Editing MarioWiki talk:BJAODN

==(First topic)==
They say that nothing is perfect, but this certainly is a strong contender. {{User:Plumber/Pignature}} 20:33, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
:Is there any rule for sorting this? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:35, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
::No. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 14:40, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
:::We should add the World 2-1 (NSMB)-article. It's simply "world 2-1". ;) --[[User:PaperStriker|PaperStriker]] 16:06, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
::Wouldn't alphabetical sorting do the job? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:43, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
:::Yep, but I'm too lazy to alphabetize the whole thing. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 18:52, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Er, [[MarioWiki:BJAODN#Koopaling]] isn't an error.  Look up "intercourse".{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 13:56, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
:Indeed. No typo, a badly chosen term at the most. I removed it. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 14:10, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
::I reverted your edits. Yes, it's a badly choosen word - That's even the whole freakin' point! While it is technically coorect, you can't deny it sound odd considering the context. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 15:10, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
:::Ok, the context... I don't find it funny, but some surely will, so I guess it can stay. Discussing what's funny and what's not is the worst we could do, after all. (Still, Sir Grodus' note calling it a "typo" is useless in my opinion - I mean, it ''isn't'' a typo.) {{User:Time Q/sig}} 15:19, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
::::Maybe, but he's right about the "Sick" part. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 15:29, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
:::::Another suggestion: [[Donkey Kong Plus]] So games are male now!? {{User:PaperStriker/sig}}
::::::That simply looks like written by a non-native speaker of English. Any kind of objects may be of male of female grammatical gender in a lot of languages, mind you. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:16, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
:::::::True. If we put that here, we can put almost any grammatical mistake. And that's not the point of this page, I think. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:38, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
::::::Toadette's one is also weird. Unhappy is a perfect word, that method of talking is called Litotes. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 09:56, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
==Quote==
My  quote is about the '''tag''' with the spelling error on [[Toadette]] page.  (I know unhappy was spelled right.) [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 15:52, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
:If you're quoted wrong anywhere, feel free to remove it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:55, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Really sweet! [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 16:01, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

== Life Shroom ==

The text sounds strange... but I don't understand a single word of it. I have played Paper Mario and can confirm that only Life Shroom is a Life Shroom. (and Pirate Goomba is a...) - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:11, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
:I think it was trying to say that you can use the "useless flora" to cook Life Shrooms as items. I don't have Paper Mario so i dunno if it's possible. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 16:33, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
::Whatever, "useless flora" is just too good to be not on this page. ;) {{User:Time Q/sig}} 16:38, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

What's bad about the Luigi one? It doesn't sound bad to me. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 18:32, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
:Weeeell, it's worded rather stupidly "Luigi hates King Boo a lot". --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 18:46, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
::Okay. It's not that funny, though, but that's my opinion. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} The torpedo ted one was funny...

==Organization==

If we are going to do this, let's do it right. How does everyone feel about splitting the page into two sections: Articles and Proposals. Move everything to it's proper place and alphabetize. Objections? -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 20:19, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
:Weeelll, that how they did it at Wikipedia (They separated it between weird thing seen the sandbox, April Fool Jokes and article vandalism), but currently, there's only three (rather short) proposals worth archiving, and  separating BJAODN in different section would perhaps be giving it too much importance. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 07:00, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

I kinda agree with Blitzwing. But you COULD make different sections on this page; split apart the Articles and Proposals. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}
:So your position is that we are both right. Thanks, DP, that's real helpful. -_- -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 12:00, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

==Buzzy Beetle shell==
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Tutankoopa use Buzzy Beetle shells as weapons in Paper Mario?--[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 09:28, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
:Yes, he did. The article could actually be created. Though in the state it was first, it's of course nonsense. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:21, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

==Baby on Wii==
Credit goes to me for finding it, Blitzwing for nominating it as BJAODN worthy, and Plumber for adding it. {{User: Master Lucario/sig}}

Wait, where can I find this? [[User:SomeRandomNintendoFan|SomeRandomNintendoFan]] ([[User talk:SomeRandomNintendoFan|talk]]) 19:43, December 30, 2021 (EST)

==The archive is open for anyone to edit, as long as the added content answers one golden criteria: It must be funny.==

I have two promblems with that sentence. Firstly, everyone has opinions on what is funny. The article currently says that, but that doesn't really help much by just saying it. Plus, it says it's free for editing, doesn't this mean people are able to add new stuff. Like muh Gorge joke? [[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]]
:Only stuff that was actually once put into an article is allowed. And I don't think it would make sense to define "funny". That's why it says there shall not be an edit war because of discrepancies of what is funny or not. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 09:42, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
::About your second point, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BEANS this Wikipedia essays] explains why I odmitted to add that rather obvious piece of information. And your first point doesn't makes sense, the rules themsleves says that "funny" can't be defined, so why are you whining about it? --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 11:34, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

== Samantha Mathis? ==

The article is neither a bad joke nor deleted nor nonsense. It's only short. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:55, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
:Eh, try to check it back, there's something you missed. Hint: It's in '''bold'''. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 16:01, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
::I bet 9,999,999 Mushroom Kingdom Coins <small></SuperStar Saga reference></small> it was written by someone who doesn't speak English natively. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:35, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
:::Yup. Especially since most job titles in English are genderless, it's easy to put that wrong. But I don't wanna discuss the validity or the funniness of this entry :P {{User:Time Q/sig}} 17:10, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

== Beezo ==

I really don't see anything wrong with it, other than the weird Waluigi picture.--[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 08:21, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

I think the picture was for the Baby Waluigi one. {{User:MegaMario9910/sig}}

Yeah, I fixed it now. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} I don't see anything wrong with Beezo either, really. The only thing that seems bad is the latter formatting...
:The thnin with Beezo is that the wording is '''completly''' screwed up ("They have wings on their back: Capable of flying". Did any of you actually read it :|? --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 11:44, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

== Sir Grodus ==

It's a simple misuse of the apostrophe:
<blockquote>It is a chance that the fish are Sir Grodus'</blockquote>
It should be this instead:
<blockquote>It is a chance that the fish are Sir Grodus'<b>s</b></blockquote>
Meaning "There is a chance that the fish are belonging to Sir Grodus".

I didn't find that notable for BJAODN. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:26, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
:I know that guy meant that the fish are belonging to Sir Grodus, but it's still a pretty WTF'ish mistake. Well, at least I know that another user was WTF-ed by it. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 16:41, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
::Are you sure that's even a mistake? I always thought that if it ends in 's', there is no reason to put another 's' after the apostraphe. - [[User:Score under|Score under]] 16:52, 3 November 2008 (EST) My name is Score_Under. With an underscore, you silly wiki.

== Urgh...gving me headaches ==

Do we really need to blabber SO much on a deleted nonsense page? seriously... {{unsigned|Negative Squad}}
:On wut? The page itself or the talkpage? --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 17:27, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

::...Why yes, we DO need to blabber on a deketed nonsense talkpage if blabbering is needed to decide what goes in the article.[[User:GreenKoopa|GreenKoopa]] - [[User talk:GreenKoopa|Comments or questions?]]

== Personal comments ==

I think we should only allow personal comments on the page that were directly related to the listed page. Such as discussed on the talk page on that specific article, or in edit summaries on that page. If everyone gives in their opinion here, then (sorry) the page will get too long. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 12:31, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
:Yeah. We could also allow comments explaining the jokes/error. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 12:36, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
::I agree. With both of your points. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 14:43, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

== How About This Picture ==

[[Image:Aussie_Coins.jpg]] I found it under Uncatorigized Images-[[User:Nerdy Guy]]
:It's a personal image that was shown to the user "Coincollector". Judging by the user name and the contents of the image, I don't think that ever was intended for the wiki. It's neither a bad joke nor deleted nor nonsense. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:56, 15 August 2008 (EDT)

==Isaac Newton==
Can I add [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Isaac_Newton&diff=469509&oldid=469459|this] to the BJAODN? {{User:Princess Grapes Butterfly/sig}}
:Well, it's pretty much an inexperienced user making an edit, and not reading the rules, so I guess no. {{User:Super-Yoshi/sig}}
:He copy it for Wikipedia. And I think that considered spam since its from another website. [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Ambidextria]]
:Nevermind Blitzwing added it. [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Ambidextria]]

==Why is Beezo Here?==
I thought it was a enemy, Not a joke. I mean why is the entire article here? --{{User:Nerdy Guy/sig|Beezo}}
:It's incredibly badly written. Try to work out this paragraph:
<blockquote>Beezos attack by flying towards Mario or one of his friends using their pitchfork and then get within contact towards the character. They normally appear in packs as they proceed to attack the character that was played by the player. Beezos in packs endlessly appear on the screen; they won’t leave the character alone until the character leaves the current level the player is currently playing in.</blockquote>
:- {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:11, 31 October 2008 (EDT)

== Nitro Honey Syrup ==

I Found this.

[...]Although Nitro Honey Syrup was never produced, recipes for it could apparently be found in the Ratooey [[Businessman]]'s [[briefcase]]. Although it is, by normalcy, powerful enough to perform miraculous acts such as even raising the dead, '''Eat your heart out, Mrs. Butterworth.'''[...]

Can we add it? --{{User:Nerdy Guy/sig|LOL, that was in the players guide.}}
:Yah. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 17:21, 31 October 2008 (EDT)

== Fourth Wall ==
I found this.

[...] When Bowser's Aerial Castle plunges into the ocean, Bowser hits the screen, cracking it, '''literally breaking the fourth wall!''' [...] [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Ambidextria]]
:That's not dumb, it's just poorly-worded (But true). --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 07:08, 3 November 2008 (EST)

Lolz. [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Ambidextria]]

I found another one

== The Sweet Stuff ==
'''Aboard the Sweet Stuff'''
*This is the tutorial

[[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Ambidextria]]

What's funny/pathetic about this one is this was actually the entire contents of the page. {{User:Phoenix Rider/sig}} 17:43, 4 November 2008 (EST)

== Luigi ==

[...] Toad had really good terms with Luigi for a very long time. He gives him special items in Luigi's Mansion. '''Luigi and Toadette are actually secretly dating.'''[...] --{{User:Nerdy Guy/sig|Should we add it?}}
:What a nonsense. Add it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 17:31, 4 November 2008 (EST)

== King Boo ==

[...]Apparently wearing a small crown is enough to make you king, but ones from Burger King aren't enough to make your girlfriend call you her majesty. I suppose that's another story.[...] 

Can we add it?--{{User:Nerdy Guy/sig|I keep finding these}}

:Yeah, if you keep finding these just add it, don't ask us! {{User:Paper Jorge/sig}}

== Baby Birdo ==

Hmmm..she looks extremely similar to her older self, so.. can I add my pic? {{User:Birdoshi/sig}} n_n
:No, because we only allow stuff that was actually on the articles. There's a reason for why I replaced ''your picture'' with ''the one that was actually on the article'' --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 06:36, 7 November 2008 (EST)

T,T ... Oh.... ;_;  {{User:Birdoshi/sig}}

== Courtyard ==

[...][[Luigi]] entered the Courtyard after defeating the evil '''phantasm''' [[Bogmire]].[...]

What's wrong with this? {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig}} 12:26, 30 December 2008 (EST)

:No idea. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:14, 31 December 2008 (EST)

The correct word is "phantom". "Phantasm" is both a series of horror flicks and was briefly one of the New Teen Titans. [[User:The Great Gonzales|The Great Gonzales]] 16:27, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Actually, "phantasm" can mean a "phantom" or an "apparition," so the word is correct. -- {{User|Son of Suns}}

Notice the [[Ghostly Galaxy#Foreign Names|Spanish and French names of Ghostly Galaxy]]. {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig}} 16:58, 3 January 2009 (EST)

== Krazy Kremland ==

[...]Along with being rundown another negative feature about this B-class amusement park (bemusement park?) is that it is built on a swamp filled with critters and [[bramble]] vines[...]

("Wtf is THAT!? o_O") &ndash; [[User:Stooben Rooben|Stooben Rooben]]

(...wtf? what type of name is a bemusement park wtf... wtf is that wtf.... wtf thats ugly.) &ndash; [[User:Super-Yoshi|Super-Yoshi]]

(X_x What.. the.. heck. We have some sickos here. [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Ambidextria]])

This too.  I guess they're reacting to the word "bemusement," but to the best of my knowledge, that just means "confusion."  I suppose it has some juvenile sexual connotation? {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig}} 02:44, 31 December 2008 (EST)

:Uhm, I think that's just a pun: it's an amusement park ("'''A'''-musement"), but it's B-class, so you could also call it "'''B'''-musement" (= bemusement) park. Don't know what S-Y and PGB mean by "ugly" and "sicko" though. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:14, 31 December 2008 (EST)

==Comments==
I think we should do something about the flood of comments on this page. Most of them are totally unfunny and just make the page ridiculously long. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:19, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
:I agree. Originally the idea was to only have comments that were directly associated with the article, like the text entered in the deletion log by a Sysop or in the original edit summary. It never was intended as a place for everybody to drop their own comments afterwards. I think we should get rid of at least some comments, if not all of them. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:10, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
::I agree, we should delete all useless comments NOW --[http://www.mariowiki.com/User:Tucayo Tucayo]([[User talk:Tucayo|talk]]) [[The 'Shroom:Main Page|<span style="font-family:font; color:Green; cursor:crosshair"><font>The 'Shroom</font></span> ]] 12:48, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
:::As the old version of the rules said, comments that are nothing than "WTF is DIZ", "WOW THIS SUCKS" and "YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME" should be deleted, everything else, if it's funny or informative, should stay. But I guess it's too late to voice my views. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] 18:12, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::It was too full. We decided on #mwikistaff to remove them. Comments could go to the talk page if you really need them. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:13, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

==Red Links==
Anyone complains if I would scout the BJAODN articles and replace all the red links with <nowiki>{{fakelink}}</nowiki> (provided there are any)? I'm bored and don't know what to do. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 18:16, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:There are some, I already noticed them but didn't change them. You can also watch out for spelling mistakes in the categories. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:18, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

==Amusing Mistake==
Not sure if this belongs here, but I found this mistake to be amusing: [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Super_Mario_World_2:_Yoshi%27s_Island&curid=1670&diff=685912&oldid=685911 Wrong Poochy image]. It was corrected almost immediately, but I was wtf? for a moment. haha [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 20:46, 18 December 2009 (EST)


==Complete entries==

Um yeah, most of these are actually wayyyy too short. Would anyone mind if I deleted some of them? --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] 07:12, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
:Feel free to do so :) --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 11:44, 25 May 2010 (EDT)

== Training Machine ==

Why did you remove that section? I can explain about this "she" thing. You guys think it can refer to her, but according to the sentence, the feminine pronoun refers to Mario, not her. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 21:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
:For something to be in BJAODN, it has to be easily understood, no need for explanations. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 21:53, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


''Really?'' I never read that ''invisible'' part in the page. 

''The archive was created as a way of storing vandalism and general poor writing that users consider to be humorous.''

''As said earlier, everyone has different criteria for what is humorous.''

??????????

{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 22:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

:What goes in the BJAODN is set to admin approval. I am an admin, I say that shouldn't be there. This in order to keep the BJAODN in a healthy state and not in the craphole it was before we revamped it. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 03:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Fan-made Joke Example ==

Should I make another BJAODN page about how users shouldn't write about a fan-made joke? I have a full document with the code of a page like that so it would be good to use it as an example page.

Tell me in my [[User talk:SKmarioman|talk]].

{{User:SKmarioman/sig}}

== Wait a sec ==

Hold on, I just looked more closely at the BJAODN page. Sorry for asking!

{{User:SKmarioman/sig}}

== Hey, Guys ==
Duirng the moving of Piranha Plant in the Generator to Polluted Piranha Plant, I noticed this.

{{species infobox
|title=Piranhacus Giganticus
|image=[[File:PiranhaPlantGenerator.png|200px]]<br>A '''Polluted Piranha Plant''' from ''Super Mario Sunshine''
|species_origin=[[Piranha Plant]]
|related=
|first_appearance=''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'' (2002)
|affiliation=[[Koopa Troop]], [[Goop Generator]], [[Petey Piranha]]
|latest_appearance=''[[New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis]]'' (2009)
}}

It's fixed now, BTW. So can we put it here? {{User|Magikrazy51}}

== I think I found something odd... ==

I was on the [[Shy Guy]] page when I found this in the Mario Golf GBC section:

''A Shy Guy appeared strong(12~19mph) wind and passed away in ''[[Mario Golf]]'' for the [[Game Boy Color]].''

Is it true or is it vandalism? It looks a little odd to me. --[[User:MichiganMarioFan|MichiganMarioFan]] 22:41, 19 February 2012 (EST)
{{br|right}}
== User commentary on sections ==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|gray|withdrawn by proposer}}
<blockquote>
Commentaries by users are now '''''strongly discouraged''''' due to overload.
</blockquote>
On BJAODN archives, I see some small comments below sections which actually add to the humor, and there is nothing wrong with that, is there? For example, [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Characters#Baby waluigi|this section's]] comment just made that section so much funnier. And that's the whole point of BJAODN, right? My comment got [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki%3ABJAODN%2FCharacters&diff=1378976&oldid=1378974 removed] as per this rule, which I don't mind too much but I'm just questioning the strictness when enforcing this rule. I don't think we should just remove new comments on sight. I believe that comments should only be removed/trimmed down when they reach more than two (as any more than that, and some users may see it as a place to chat and then ''that'' would be overload). Therefore, in accordance to these ideas, I'm proposing that the guideline should be reworded to this instead;

<blockquote>
Commentaries by users ''are'' permitted, but please restrict it to no more than two comments per section.
</blockquote>

'''Proposer:''' {{User|YoshiKong}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' January 4, 2013, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|YoshiKong}} A less strict rule to preserve BJAODN humor.
#{{User|JohnRoberts}} Per YoshiKong
#{{User|BowserJunior}} Per YoshiKong
#{{User|Megadardery}} Per YoshiKong
#{{user|Pokémon Trainer Red}}: Per YK's reasoning

===Oppose===

===Comments===
Good points, but I don't think the discouragement angle should be removed altogether. A lot of the time, it seems that folks are commenting for the sake of commenting, which is what's being discouraged (in theory): genuinely witty remarks that ''do'' enhance the enjoyment of the entry should still be allowed even under the current rule ("discouraged" =/= "disallowed"). The tricky part is that what's funny for one person is lame for another, but that's gonna be an issue no matter what. I just worry that simply saying they're allowed will make people go crazy with commentary again, and lessen others' ability to remove the excess: imho, it's better to have no comments than two unnecessary ones. I'd support something more like: "''Commentary is permitted, but users should show restraint in this matter. Commentary should make the entries funnier, and commenting for the sake of commenting will be removed, as will lengthy back-and-forth exchanges.''" - it's less restrictive, but still dissuades users from going around commenting on everything, or piling on the comments for particular entries (and does so without resorting to an arbitrary cut-off, which could always backfire and be interpreted as "everything ''should'' have 2 comments"). - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:56, 24 December 2012 (EST)

:I like your suggestion; I didn't think of that loophole. I want to reword it now, but the proposal is already more than three days old. Should I withdraw it, apply changes, and then re-propose? {{User|YoshiKong}} 21:07, 24 December 2012 (EST)
::Yeah, I think that would be best. Sorry for not replying in time to avoid having to re-list it: somehow I didn't notice this TPP until today... - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 21:46, 24 December 2012 (EST)

==User commentary on sections (re-proposing)==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|green|allow comments 9-0}}
<blockquote>
Commentaries by users are now '''''strongly discouraged''''' due to overload.
</blockquote>
I'm proposing that this rule be reworded to the following;

<blockquote>
Commentary is permitted, but users should show restraint in this matter. Commentary should make the entries funnier, and commenting just for the sake of commenting will be removed, as will lengthy back-and-forth exchanges.
</blockquote>

...for the following reasons. The current rule restricts/discourages ''all'' comments below BJAODN sections. I believe that comments which actually add to the humor should be allowed, like [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Characters#Baby waluigi|this]] for example. However, we still want to discourage users from commenting just for the sake of it. It should also be highlighted that all comments should be aimed at either making that section funnier, or just giving an insight about the section. To back this up and prevent overload, we should also specifically say that we don't allow an excessive amount of comments on sections (like back-and forth exchanges between users, as the proposed states). Yes, the rule gives users a lot more freedom in commenting, but it also sets a specific standard, unlike our current rule.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|YoshiKong}} ''(with suggestions by {{User|Walkazo}})''<br>
'''Deadline:''' January 8, 2013, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|YoshiKong}} Per my proposal.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per YoshiKong and my comments on the earlier proposal.
#{{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}} Per proposal
#{{User|Megadardery}} Yeah, Yeah Per all.. BJAODN are just the only FUN part of the wiki, why destroy it?
#{{User|BowserJunior}} Definitely.  The comments are hilarious, and I was ''so'' disappointed when I saw that. Per all.
#{{User|KoopaGuy}} BJAODN rules! Slag off <s>Soccermoms</s> people without a sense of humor!
#{{User|Tails777}} Per all. It could make the BJAODN section even more funny and enjoyable.
#{{User|YoshiPickle}} Per all. I think that this will make BJAODN more funny!
#{{User|Akfamilyhome}} Per all. We accept funny comments! :D

===Oppose===

===Comments===

==newbie bashing rule==
This section is about what you shouldn't do in an article, right? why not have poor writing by newbies? Just think about it, wouldn't it give new users who haven't yet edited this wiki a better example of what not to do in an article? {{User|KoopaGuy}} a.k.a. [[User:KoopaGuy|ShyTroopa]] or  John Roberts 16:11, 17 January 2013 (EST)

== Super Paper Mario ==

Do you think we need a separate section pertaining to only Super Paper Mario, as how Luigi's Mansion has a section for itself? Super Paper Mario and articles related to it seem to suffer this consistent subpar melodramatic quality, just as articles on Luigi's Mansion. Oh, and this assumes that the articles on Super Paper Mario are improved. [[Special:Contributions/173.55.155.46|173.55.155.46]] 17:00, 9 March 2013 (EST)
:I think there's potential for a Super Paper Mario page ([[Count Bleck]], the old [[Dimentio]] revisions and [[Count Bleck's Army]] have a lot of material, atleast), though the SPM-related article don.t seem as uniformly bad as the LM pages were. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 17:37, 9 March 2013 (EST)

== The Growing BJAODN ==

The BJAODN is going to keep expanding, naturally, but its pages are getting a lot bigger as well? Is there going to be a point where the huge pages are going to make an undesirable impact on loading time? If so, what are we going to do? Should we create separate sections based on alphabet (Like MarioWiki:BJAODN A) to make the article smaller? I think that's a plausible way. What do you think? {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 21:02, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
:We'll get to that when that situation arises. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 21:09, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
==Comments==
Can anyone add comments on BJAODN pages? (In brackets)  {{User|Rpg_gamer}} 06:56, 11 May 2013 (EDT) 06:56, 11 May 2013 (EDT)
:They can, but only if it adds humour to the joke. {{User|Yoshi876}}

==Make a separate subpage for levels==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|red|do not make subpage for levels 1-7}}
If there's a subpage for games, why not one for levels? I've seen plenty of silly things on level articles, so I think a separate subpage for levels should be created.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Goomba}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' May 29, 2013, 23:59 GMT

===Make a subpage===
#{{User|Goomba}} Per proposal.

===Don't make a subpage===
#{{user|Tucayo}} - There aren't that many Level entries to grant them a subpage.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per Tucayo
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} We can probably do both levels and places for a BJAODN page (since a big amount of the entries in "Other" pertain to places and levels), but "there aren't that many Level entries to grant them a subpage.".
#{{User|King Pikante}} Per LGM.
#{{User|BowserJunior}} Per LGM.
#{{User|Mariotime11}} Per LGM.
#{{User|MegaDigga3}} Per Tucayo and Lefty.

===Comments===
This is somewhat related, but the reason the "Comments" header wouldn't show properly is that [[User:Rpg_gamer/sig|Rpg_gamer's signature]] from the section above was not coded properly (it doesn't have the <nowiki></break></nowiki> parameters at the end), so it messes up the coding for the rest of the page. I changed it to the standard <nowiki>{{User|Rpg_gamer}}</nowiki>, so the header should be fixed now.<br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 23:19, 15 May 2013 (EDT)

==Make a separate subpage for places==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|green|split 9-0}}
I've noticed that quite a lot of the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Other|Other]] section contains quite a lot of places. My proposal is simple, we create a subpage for places and place all the places in there.

And yes, I am aware this proposal uses the word 'place' a lot.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Yoshi876}}<br>
'''Deadline''': June 18, 2013, 23:59 (GMT)

===Create subpage===
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per my proposal that I have placed here.
#{{User|ThePremiumYoshi}} &mdash; Placing my support vote here.
#{{User|YoshiKong}} &ndash; Placing a vote at the place where this proposal about places is taking place. Per proposal BTW.
#{{User|ParaLemmy1234}} Per all.
#{{User|King Pikante}} Per all.
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} Per my comment in the previous proposal.
#{{User|Freakworld}} Per Proposal.
#{{User|Gonzales Kart Inc.}} Placing where votes are to be placed so places subpage is placed in BJAODN. Oh yeah, and per all votes placed here.
#{{User|Mariotime11}} Per all.

===Don't create subpage===

===Comments===
@Mega: We already have subpages for [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Characters|characters]], [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Enemies|enemies]], [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Games|games]], [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Items|items]], [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Luigi's Mansion|Luigi's Mansion]], [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Non-Mario content|non-Mario content]], and [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Proposals|proposals]], so I don't see the problem in creating a subpages for places. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
:OK, I forgot about all those XD {{User:Gonzales Kart Inc./sig}}

== Possible April Fools 2015 Stuff ==

Hi BJAODN,

Can you put this material for April Fools next year?
OK, here it is:

TWO CANCELLED MARIO GAMES BASED OF THE DIC TV SHOWS: JUST LIKE THE STORY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF SONIC XTREME WENT:

THE STORY BEGINS IN NOA WHEN A FRENCH DEV TEAM WANTS TO MAKE AND USE NINTENDO'S CHARACTERS TO BEAT SEGA'S SONIC CHAR. KING KOOPA'S KOOL GAME WAS A SEGA GENESIS GAME THAT WAS IN THE WORKS VERY SHORTLY AND SHOWN IN NP MAG 93'/2/19, IT SHOWED BOWSER GOING IN A CITY TURNING PEOPLE OF HOLLYWOOD TO KOOPAS OF KOOPAWOOD IT WAS CANCELLED BECAUSE IT WAS ON SEGA'S CONSOLE. WHY? BOWSER HATES MARIO AND SONIC HATES MARIO, THIS WAS BAD CHEMISTERY.

THE NEXT GAME AND FINAL ONE WAS MARIO ALL STARS. NOT THE GAME, BUT BASED OFF THE COMPILATION MARIO TV SERIES. THE GAME FOCUSES ON THE 4 PLAYER TECHNIC THE PLAYERS CONTROL MARIO,LUIGI, TOAD THE PRINCESS AND YOSHI. IT WAS SHOWN AT NINTENDO'S 1993 CHAMPION TOURS AS A PLAYABLE DEMO WITH A STANGE ADAPTER FOR 4 PLAYERS ON SNES SMILAR TO THE NES SATELLITE. IN 1994, THE GAME HAD A FULL ON DEMO TO BRING HOME IT WAS ONLY AVILABLE IN LATIN AMERICA,BRAZIL,FRANCE AND KOREA IT WAS IN THE NINTENDO MAG THEY HAD IN THERE COUNTRY. IN 1995 THE GAME WAS 75% OF COMPLETION AND WAS TIMED OUT OF MAKING THE GAME NINTENDO WAS IMPRESSED AND CANCELLED IT FOR DELAY LIMTATIONS.

THE LAST CANNED GAME WAS SUPER MARIO FX THE GAME WE KNOW NOT MUCH ABOUT BUT EXISTS IN HE DEV OF NINTENDO JAPAN THE GAME USED THE GAMES STYLE AND ENGINE FOR GAMEPLAY WITHIN 1995 AND 1996. THEN THE MOMENT CAME THE GAME WAS MOVED TO THE N64. THE CASTLE STILL EXISTS IN THE GAME WREAKING CREW 96' AS A LOST SPRITE FROM THIS GAME BUT MODDED FOR LATEST LOOK.

Thanks for pranks. MARIOFAN900.

:Maybe if you toned down the caps and used spell-check... but really, this isn't the place to do this. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:56, 2 April 2014 (EDT)

i waz in a rush THAT'S WHY!, MarioFan900.
p.s. where do i do dis then?

== "April Fool's Day" ==

I thought it was "April Fools' Day". [[User:Pokémon Trainer Red|PTR]] ([[User talk:Pokémon Trainer Red|talk]]) 21:22, 4 April 2014 (EDT)
:Umm, yeah, and? {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:26, 4 April 2014 (EDT)
::"Fools'" (with the apostrophe after the "s") is the correct spelling. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 03:55, 23 November 2014 (EST)

== Shadow Queen article in BJAODN? ==

Wow, this BJAODN article is actually a normal article, the only joke is the first two phrases in it, I don't see any other jokes in it. By the way, I think the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Shadow Queen|BJAODN Shadow Queen]] looks better than the oroginal article, and also some elements on this joke page could be reused (and adapted) to the actual [[Shadow Queen]] article. Just as a side note, I tried to [[MarioWiki:Featured Articles/N2/Shadow Queen|feature]] Shadow Queen's page, but failed because of the article's size and flowery writing. Many elements in this joke page are forgotten in the actual true page, and if this page is flowery wrote, addaption to [[Shadow Queen]] won't be a problem. My main focus is the personality and Power and abilities sections.{{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}

== Improper captilization ==

Funny how the BJAODN page improperly capitalizes the following words "super mario wiki", in the first sentence no less. Can anyone who can edit the MarioWiki namespace fix this? [[File:Koopatrol sign.gif]][[User:ExPower|ExPower]][[File:Koopatrol sign.gif]] [[User talk:ExPower|talk]] 20:25, 12 March 2015 (EDT)

:That's the joke - [[User:Turboo|Turboo]] ([[User talk:Turboo|talk]]) 20:26, 12 March 2015 (EDT)

== Is it ok to remove comments which aren't funny? ==

I've seen a few that either add nothing to the joke and even take away from it. I'm not trying to stop commenting, as it's just a few, but I'm just asking. {{User|Magikrazy}}
:I've been on a comments cull before, go for it <s>unless it's one of mine</s>. Obviously though, as some people's humours are different some may get added back in. {{User|Yoshi876}}

== 100m ==

I have a suggestion to add to BJAODN:

Go to the 100m page for Donkey Kong and look at the bottom trivia. Something tells me that a Minecraft reference is not in any way important to the Donkey Kong stage itself. Quizmelon
:I don't think it's funny enough to be in this, it sounds like it was added by a user who doesn't understand correlation =/= causation or coincidences. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:17, 21 May 2016 (EDT)

== MK7 item boxes ==

I have a new thing that could fit on this page, found on the Item Box page.

'Item Boxes return in Mario Kart 7 with the same design and purpose as Mario Kart Wii, with a rainbow-colored texture '''slightly less biased against the red area.''''

Colours being biased against? New to me,

[[User:Quizmelon|Quizmelon]] ([[User talk:Quizmelon|talk]]) 02:00, 16 October 2016 (EDT)

:That could work. {{User:The RPG Gamer/sig}} 02:01, 16 October 2016 (EDT)

== Mistake ==

In the first sentence of this page, it says "super '''mairo''' wiki" instead of "Super Mario Wiki". I cannot fix this mistake because the page is protected. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 11:04, 31 March 2017 (EDT)
:You're not meant to fix the mistake, whoever did it intended to do it. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::That's the joke, man. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:07, 31 March 2017 (EDT)
:::Thanks, I did actually think that it was probably the case, since that is what the article it about, but I was unsure. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 11:09, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

== Mario Kart 9 ==

Unless the admins decide to delete it, please add [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Mario Kart 9|this page]] to the Complete "articles" section. That is a hefty amount of vandalism. -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 12:34, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

==I found bad writing on the begining of the article==
It says 'on the super mairo wiki' and it hould be 'on the Super Mario Wiki'. {{User:YoshiEgg1990/sig}} 06:58, 13 June 2018 (EDT)
:All of the mistakes on this overview page are intentional. {{User|Yoshi876}}

== Criteria ==

Sometimes i feel like i add some stuff onto the archive that i find funny but gets removed. Is there a rule we can make to better explain what does and does not belong? [[User:The HD Guy|The HD Guy]] ([[User talk:The HD Guy|talk]]) 07:28, 30 August 2018 (EDT)

== DK Wiki entries ==

Mind if we add some DK Wiki entries (if any)? Is there also a way to split the ''Donkey Kong'' series articles into its own section? [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 15:09, 15 January 2019 (EST)
:As the DK Wiki is being merged to this wiki it would make sense to merge BJAODN-worthy content too. Luigi's Mansion has a BJAODN page, so it would most likely be spit into a separate page. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 15:27, 15 January 2019 (EST)

== Allow section(s) for certain April Fools' proposals ==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|canceled}}
This is something I've noticed twice now during April Fools (including this year's). Why is the main content of each April Fools' event archived but not the proposals? I propose that we also archive the various joke proposals as part of April Fools' on BJAODN (not '''every''' joke proposal that fits this category, obviously), though I'm also laying out two options for this:
*'''Option 1:''' Archive as {{fake link|MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fools' 20XX/Proposals}}.
*'''Option 2:''' Archive as {{fake link|MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fools' proposals}}.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Toadette the Achiever}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' April 19, 2019, 23:59 GMT<br>
'''Date Withdrawn:''' April 6, 2019, 14:14 GMT

===Option 1===
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} This is my preferred option. While Option 2 is feasible, it would also result in page bloating.
#{{User|TheDarkStar}} Per Toadette the Achiever.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} That seems plausible.

===Option 2===

===Do nothing===
#{{User|Alex95}} - Reason why we don't really archive the April Fools' proposals is because that page or the main [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Proposals|dumb proposals page]] would get bloated ''fast'' on April Fools'. And it wouldn't really even feel funny anymore, 'cause then people would just be posting on the proposals page silly things just for them to be archived and looked back at later (which you can do with the page history). One of the points of BJAODN is to "not write badly on purpose just to get into BJAODN", and this proposal would go against that. We're lenient on April Fools' because content on the Proposals page doesn't affect the mainspace (in this case). The only exception to this is Pie because <s>long live pie</s> legacy by Ghost Jam or something.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} I feel like without any sort of regulation, this sort of thing would add up very, very quickly, leading to a very bloated page filled with nothing but joke proposals. One of the reasons Pie For Everyone worked was because it was the only joke proposal available that relied on an established legacy. There's a reason that all other parts of MarioWiki are curated so that only admins can tinker around with new article and stuff, because it increases the stuff to do to clean up afterward if every Tom, Dick, and Harry can do it. Joke curation isn't necessary to the upkeep of MarioWiki and thus we're better off just forbidding an official archive of it all together as a moderate dosage of joke proposals is fine, excessive is not. And in addition, per everything what Alex95 said.
#{{User|Doomhiker}} This kind of against the spirit of BJAODN. If every April the first BJAODN is filled with what otherwise good users created, then what is the point of it? We should stick to not encouraging users to be put on BJAODN, April Fool's or not. Pie is different, as it is an administrator-created running gag to the level of Pirate Goomba being a Pirate Goomba. Per all.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I do not have a problem with allowing users to make April Fools proposals, but I’m not a fan of filling this article with a ton of joke proposals. Per Alex95.
#{{user|Mario jc}} Per all. ''Anyone'' could then make an April Fools' proposal and have it archived, which will lead others to join the bandwagon as an excuse to have their joke kept in an official archive. The reason why the "main content" is archived is because it's much more large-scale and has far greater publicity, affecting the main page, CSS etc. whereas the proposals are community-centred.

===Comments===
@Alex What about the other instances of "Pie?" [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:52, April 5, 2019 (EDT)

Eh I think the pie thing should be more sparing each year, it's starting to get old. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 19:52, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
:Why do you think I tried banning it? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:53, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
::We only save Ghost Jam's, so up to him when he posts on on April Fools'. April Fools' is meant for dumb jokes anyway, but people can have fun on the Proposals page for the day with pretty much whatever they want. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:54, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
:::@Alex95: Uh, '''everything else''' archived under April Fools' would '''also''' technically go against the spirit of "don't write badly on purpose", and I don't get your point either. This only applies to April Fools' proposals, and isn't meant to be an encouragement for April Fools' vandalism. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:56, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
::::Looking through the archived proposals we have, they are either hilariously misguided or by people who didn't know where they were, or just hilariously written. Perhaps these were before we had the proposal archive? As for the currently archived April Fools' stuff, those are coordinated projects created by the administrative team, sometimes spread across multiple pages. This won't encourage vandalism, but I don't see the point in archiving ''every'' joke proposal.
::::tl;dr really up to the admins what goes and what stays, but others may agree with you on this, idk. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:01, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, I intend to leave some room for common sense over which proposals are archived. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 20:08, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
:::::Can we have an alternate option where the objectively unfunny April Fool's thing from this year is wholly redacted? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:23, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
::::::What exactly are you referring to? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 20:26, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::The whole "Pink Donkey Kong Jr." thing that for once I was far from the only person to complain about. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:28, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::Humor is subjective. I personally enjoyed it. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:34, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::No one on the Main page's talk page came to defend it, with several people complaining. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:39, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::Typically users don't really look at talk pages, tbh. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:42, April 5, 2019 (EDT)

==Comments==

A month ago, several comments were removed from the BJAODN for being late comments. I feel that some of the comments were actually pretty funny (I cannot say the same for my own), so I'd like to know why exactly late comments are bad if they're funny. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 21:42, August 13, 2019 (EDT)
:Usually it's because the humor has long since passed. It's still an enjoyable read, but it's the same thing as responding to an old talk page conversation (exceptions being unanswered talk posts that went ignored for eight months, for example). Sometimes there's something relevant to add, like on [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Characters#SIRI|SIRI]], but for the most part, it just isn't relevant anymore. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:22, April 29, 2020 (EDT)

==Current-ness==

Does writing added to the BJAODN need to be from the current revision, or is it fine to pull from earlier revisions for archive material? {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 19:50, October 11, 2019 (EDT)
:I assume it's fine to use content from older revisions. That's probably where most of the content here comes from anyway, it'd be irresponsible to leave vandalism up because you're busy archiving it for BJAODN instead of going ahead and reverting it. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 12:07, April 10, 2020 (EDT)

==Boom Blox==
Now that Boom Blox has been merged to the general Non-Mario Content archive, can someone remove it from the list? --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 12:07, April 10, 2020 (EDT)
:Done, thank you for pointing that out. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 12:10, April 10, 2020 (EDT)

== SuperMarioLogan Wiki ==

For your next April Fool's joke, I would like you to change the wiki's front page so that it is about SuperMarioLogan, a YouTube plush series, and have Jeffy as the featured article, a voting section on which Mario character should be in SuperMarioLogan, a fake news section depicting Logan Thirtyacre being the new owner of the wiki and a SuperMarioLogan video game being announced for the Nintendo Switch, and a DYK section about fun facts on SuperMarioLogan.--[[Special:Contributions/24.188.22.145|24.188.22.145]] 18:13, April 29, 2020 (EDT)
:Maybe. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:19, April 29, 2020 (EDT)
::By the way, the Jeffy page will have media relating to Jeffy's two rap songs, Why and Wanna See My Pencil.--[[Special:Contributions/24.44.76.88|24.44.76.88]] 19:07, May 1, 2020 (EDT)
:::No, please don't. Do not give any credibility to that horrible man and his vulgar content. Logan is nothing but scum, and his Jeffy character is purely obnoxious. If you want a good April Fools' joke, make a [[Pink Gold Peach]] or [[Baby Rosalina]] wiki. - This previously unsigned comment was added by [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]].
::::We should, because Logan's a hit plush YouTuber. The vulgar content will not be in the Jeffy page. There will also be a Scooter page with his rap song, Hey Fat Boy.--[[Special:Contributions/24.44.76.88|24.44.76.88]] 20:36, June 17, 2020 (EDT)
:::::We will consider it. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:34, June 17, 2020 (EDT)

== Logo ==

Why is the logo different in this page?{{unsigned|BlueYoshi-57EML}}
:Because it can be. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:01, May 20, 2020 (EDT)

== Add a new link to the main page. ==

As the main BJAODN page is protected, can someone who is able to edit it add in a [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Bedtime for Drain-Head!|link to my recently-created article on the poor state of the "Bedtime for Drain-Head" article]]? Thanks. - [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]]([[User talk:AwdryFan1997|Talk]])

== The UnMarioWiki ==

Read this: [https://unmario.fandom.com/wiki/MarioWiki][https://unmario.fandom.com/wiki/Porplemontage], apparently, they insulted Wayoshi and Porple. [[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 17:25, July 22, 2020 (EDT)
:What does this have to do with BJAODN? --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:42, July 22, 2020 (EDT)
::We could include it. [[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 17:51, July 22, 2020 (EDT)
:::BJAODN is just for what we cover. Also, they jab at everyone. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:11, July 22, 2020 (EDT)

== Links in section headers ==
Should the links to the actual articles in section headers be removed according to the Manual of Style, or does that only apply to mainspace? --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 22:13, September 26, 2020 (EDT)
:I think we should keep the header links, for the sake of historical preservation. - [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]] ([[User talk:AwdryFan1997|talk]]) 18:18, December 3, 2020 (EST)
::Agree. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 18:23, December 3, 2020 (EST)
:::Agreed also. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 18:26, December 3, 2020 (EST)
::::That rule should only apply to the mainspace. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
:::::I think it's fine to leave them as-is here. It'll help lead readers to the article the excerpt came from, and can show them how the article should actually look. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:37, December 3, 2020 (EST)

== 2022 joke idea ==

Change of plans with my prank wiki idea. We will not do an SML Wiki for next year because SML had to get rid of all Mario characters thanks to Nintendo. We will instead be doing an SMG4 wiki for our 2022 April Fool's joke because this channel still has Mario characters in it. The featured article will be about the SMG4 version of Mario, the news section including fake news regarding Meta Runner and Sunset Paradise video games for the Switch and Luke Lerdwichagul being the wiki's new owner, and a poll stating which SMG4 character is your favorite. I hope you go with my idea.--[[Special:Contributions/24.44.76.88|24.44.76.88]] 20:26, July 20, 2021 (EDT)
:We actually have a list of ideas for the next decade we're pulling from, but we can probably slide that in around 202 or so. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:39, July 20, 2021 (EDT)
::Update: The SMG4 Wiki's front page will also have a Murder Drones game for the Nintendo Switch.--[[Special:Contributions/24.44.76.88|24.44.76.88]] 20:29, October 21, 2021 (EDT)

== Super Mario Odyssey 2 page for April fools ==

Can anyone writes it?
general direction:
*It is a boring rehash of original
*No New Kingdoms(except Isle Delfino)
*Bad Reputation
*The games is linear unlike the first one
*Not much new capture
*Have 999,999 moons
*30 locations 
*Multiple location with in the same kingdom
*Kingdom name changed, but everything else is the same
--[[Special:Contributions/112.119.179.118|112.119.179.118]] 09:39, March 31, 2022 (EDT)

== SMG4 for 2023 ==

I've decided to move my SMG4 joke idea for 2023. It'll still be the same as in the 2022 proposal idea.--[[Special:Contributions/24.44.76.188|24.44.76.188]] 19:57, July 27, 2022 (EDT)
:OK, but maybe you could add stuff like a SMG4 crossover, or a multiverse madness/generations sort of thing. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 10:14, December 14, 2022.

== A question I have ==

What is and is not worthy of being archived here?--[[Special:Contributions/74.64.68.192|74.64.68.192]]
:The page itself pretty much has your question covered. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 14:10, October 31, 2022 (EDT)
::I tried to add two additions to the Enemies part of the archive, but they weren't considered worthy.--[[Special:Contributions/74.64.68.192|74.64.68.192]]
:::They need to be funny. And while that's subjective, those...just weren't. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:33, October 31, 2022 (EDT)
::::A bit off topic, but you also [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?diff=3782882&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop put a comment and signed it with someone else's username]. Do not impersonate other users. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 21:45, October 31, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Pretty sure they just copied my [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Grindel&type=revision&diff=3523878&oldid=3523875 edit summary] from when I reverted it, and didn't mean it to be impersonation. {{User:Somethingone/sig}} 21:56, October 31, 2022 (EDT)
::::::No, I didn't mean to impersonate. And everyone has a different view of what's funny. P.S. What does the Grindel joke even ''mean?'' I know who the raysfire guy is, but not the connection to Grindel.--[[Special:Contributions/74.64.68.192|74.64.68.192]]

== Wait... ==

Levels are technically places. Like, if levels were like buildings, worlds would be like blocks or cities. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} December 6, 2022 13:48(CST)
:What does this have to do with BJAODN? The levels are listed in [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Locations]]. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 15:07, December 6, 2022 (EST)
::I was talking about the 2 proposals on this page. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 10:14, December 8, 2022 (CST)
:::A place (i.e. [[Toad Town]]) is different from a level (i.e. [[World 1-1 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 1-1]]). --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 19:03, December 8, 2022 (EST)
::::And yet, 1-1 is in World 1, which is in the Mushroom Kingdom. Toad Town is also in the Mushroom Kingdom. AND, every game has articles for their worlds and levels. If it is done in the main wiki, it should be done in BJAODN. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 11:14, December 9, 2022 (CST)

== Text-replacement bot is having an effect on Bjaodn entries ==

With the porple bot replacing text, it's also affecting the bjaodn entries. I am in suspicion. See sal out (Mike's theme) and anything that had Mario (franchise) on it. Should we recover those accidently bot-replaced text? {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 05:47, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

== "No impertinent content" rule ==
"''[...]Such content may include entire articles, sections of articles, or "joke" proposals, but may only be taken from valid wiki articles or proposals. Content derived from user talk pages or any other namespace is not allowed under any circumstances and will be removed on sight.''"

However, there are some breakers to this rule: (File) (Gallery) (Talk) (Template) etc. pages are in the BJAODN sections, esp. the /Other subpage. Here is a list to clarify; sorry if i missed any that start with "Namespace:Page":

*File:Booblast.jpg
*File:Bowser on Koopa King kart MKDD.png
*File:FeezingTower.jpg
*File:Goombario Tattling Paratroopa PMTTYD.png
*File:Mario Party 2 Face Lift.png
*File:Mario Party Star Rush Shogakukan.jpg
*File:OnevsOne.png
*File:SSB Beta Saffron City.jpg
*Gallery:Donkey Kong Country
*Gallery:Food
*Gallery:Mario Kart 64
*Gallery:Mario Party
*Gallery:Mario Party Advance
*Gallery:Mario Party DS
*Gallery:Mario sprites and models
*Gallery:Super Princess Peach
*'''Talk:'''Dr. Tornado
*'''Talk:'''Mama Toad
*'''Talk:'''Princess Peach
*'''Talk:'''Meat
*Template:Award-winner
*Template:Userspace

The (talk) namespace entries on BJAODN are the major offenders and must be discouraged from being submitted, as with the (User talk) entries; a section on "User talk:Alex95" was removed from the BJAODN archives as per this impertinent content rule. Which namespaces aside from (Talk) should be removed from the archives, specifically? (File) (Gallery) (Template) (MarioWiki) (Help)

{{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 06:40, January 1, 2024 (EST)
:It's clearly a dated rule and should be either reduced in scope to limit content from talk pages (with rare exceptions), or treated like an extension of "don't create bad content on purpose" and otherwise removed all together. {{User:Mario/sig}} 12:52, January 1, 2024 (EST)
::Rewrote it.[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:BJAODN&diff=4121757&oldid=4119951] Hopefully that should clear it up. I don't think we'll delete any content from those namespaces, as several of these (such as Talk:Meat) does qualify as "something so confusing and devoid of information that you become suspicious of the writer's sanity" {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:00, January 22, 2024 (EST)

== The user comments kinda suck ==

I've never been a fan of how comments are integrated among BJAODN entries, because it's often done with reckless abandon which causes them to blend into the rest of their respective entries. The comments, imo, should be more neatly incorporated; I was thinking that we should reach a consensus on a more suitable format for these comments. I'd personally favor giving them a forum-y touch, so my idea is to encase them in a cream-colored box, separate them with lines, and (where applicable) move each comment's signature above the comment itself, like so:

<div class="contentbox mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
<h2>Pirate Goomba</h2>
[[File:Pirate Goomba.png|thumb|Pirate Goomba.]]
Pirate Goomba is a pirate Goomba.
{{br}}
<div style="float:left; border:1px solid #f5d3b0;background:#fffdd0;padding:2px; ; margin: 0 auto;">
(''It should be noted that this line quickly became a running gag around the Super Mario Wiki.'')
</div>{{br}}
<h2>Toad (species)</h2>
Toads dont appear in ''[[New Super Mario Bros.]]'', in the intro, the small things panicking aren't toads, they are toadsworths. Nintendo probably didnt want to make a new model just for toad, and used toadsworth's model instead. Toadsworth also appear in mushroom houses.

<div style="float:left; border:1px solid #f5d3b0;background:#fffdd0;padding:2px; ; margin: 0 auto;">
'''{{User|Baby Luigi}}:'''<br>(''While the information is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=QjsRFX-c4h8 technically correct], the way this is worded, unsourced, and taken out of context makes this sound like completely nonsense.'')
</div>{{br}}

----

Althought the Toads are occasionally depicted as happy in some artworks, there are differences: Toadette '''rarely''' winks '''usually'''. Toads are '''never''' seen winking like this.

<div style="float:left; border:1px solid #f5d3b0;background:#fffdd0;padding:2px; ; margin: 0 auto;">
'''{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}}:'''<br>("''So, uh, how often, exactly?''"
----
(Later, it would be re-added as this:)
</div>{{br}}

Although the Toads are depicted a being happy in some artworks, there are differences. Toadette '''flirtatiously''' winks when depicted in several artworks, which is not present in any games the Toads appeared.

<div style="float:left; border:1px solid #f5d3b0;background:#fffdd0;padding:2px; ; margin: 0 auto;">
([[File:Toadette MLPJ.png|100px]][[File:Toadette111.png|80px]]<big><big>←Like this'''???'''</big></big>)
</div>{{br}}
</div>
----
These two examples are lifted from the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Characters]] page. You'll notice that, outside of relocating the signatures and removing a hyphen that separated one comment from its signature, I didn't tamper with the original formatting and punctuation of any comment.

Obviously this would get cumbersome to format manually over and over, so a template would come in clutch:
<pre>
{{BJAODN comments
|user1=
|comment1=

|user2=
|comment2=

|user3=
|comment3=

etc.
</pre>

(The "user" parameters are optional.)

What does everyone think? Keep in mind that this format is so far just a suggestion; any feedback is appreciated. If a consensus proves difficult to reach, I'll proceed with a proposal. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 16:12, January 21, 2024 (EST) Edit: Made the borders around the comments thinner. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 16:17, January 21, 2024 (EST)
:I'm okay with it. It looks lots better and makes the comments stand out more noticeably. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 16:16, January 21, 2024 (EST)

Note: I use a custom wiki skin where the text is superimposed on a dark background, which renders the "Comments" labels illegible in the cream boxes. When logged out, I notice that these labels stick out too much; perhaps we could do without the labels and let the cream background itself suggest a comment section, like a post-it note of sorts? Example:
<div style="float:left; border:1px solid #f5d3b0;background:#fffdd0;padding:2px; ; margin: 0 auto;">
'''{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}}:'''<br>("''So, uh, how often, exactly?''"
----
(Later, it would be re-added as this:)
</div>{{br}}

{{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 16:24, January 21, 2024 (EST) Edit:Fully removed the Comments labels to better illustrate the current vision. See [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki_talk:BJAODN&diff=4121063&oldid=4121061 this revision] if you're curious how the comment boxes used to look like. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:13, January 21, 2024 (EST)
:Great idea, and the template is great. Maybe someday, we could enforce this BJAODN comments template in all of the BJAODN archives. {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 17:06, January 21, 2024 (EST)
:Looks good to me! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 17:19, January 21, 2024 (EST)

Maybe you can create a proposal about this to see what the community thinks. I personally like this idea! {{User:Sparks/sig}} 17:21, January 21, 2024 (EST)
:I'd be up for a proposal! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 18:05, January 21, 2024 (EST)
::I understand the concern for readability, but I think these colored boxes draw attention to the commentary rather than the content they're riffing on, which the content I think should be the focus of these pages. {{User:Mario/sig}} 18:52, January 22, 2024 (EST)
:::Yeah, even before you added your comment I was having second thoughts about this addition. The post-it format fills up too much space and, although not garish, still hampers readability. The original format, despite its shortcomings, has the net advantage of being more discreet, and has endured for so long because there's seldom anything you could do to improve it without adding superfluous elements. (Wikipedia's BJAODN uses pretty much the same comment "system" except it seems to have a bespoke "reply" button.) I will admit: this topic was more of a stream-of-consciousness than a well thought-out and researched proposition. I decided I won't set up a proposal anymore, but seeing as though the suggested format still got some positive reception, I'd be okay with somebody else making a proposal in my stead. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 20:12, January 22, 2024 (EST)

== Misspelled Mario ==

In the first sentence it says, “The bad jokes and other deleted nonsense archive is the fun and controversy archive on the super mairo wiki. Its purpose? To have the most bad works documented. for fun!” it said super mairo wiki. Please fix.
{{unsigned|BowserJr Ya}}
:It's written badly on purpose, indicated by the poor grammar. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:58, September 26, 2024 (EDT)

== Add {{fake link|Follow Toad}} to [[BJAODN]] ==
{{settled TPP}}
{{proposal outcome|cancelled}}

Follow Toad was a very conjectural and speculative article that existed in 2006. It was quickly deleted and the info was merged to [[Toad|Toad's]] page. I believe the deleted article should be added to BJAODN given it's an example to not create articles based purely on speculation. This would have to be added by the admins since they are the only ones with access to deleted contributions but if they're game, I believe it'd be cool to see a piece of early [[Super Mario Wiki]] history in this article.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Pizza Master}}<br>
'''Deadline''': December 5, 2024, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|Pizza Master}} Per my proposal.
===Oppose===

===Comments===
...we don't think you need a proposal to add something to BJAODN. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 19:53, November 20, 2024 (EST)

<s>Maybe not, but this will likely be effective at garnering attention from other users.</s> --{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 20:01, November 20, 2024 (EST)

{{@|Camwoodstock}} You're right. I'll post a collaboration thread on the Super Mario Boards to get the ball rolling on this.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 20:24, November 20, 2024 (EST)

== Make a Recipes collection? ==

I'm wondering if we should split off Recipes from the Items collection. There might be enough already there to warrant it, given how Vehicles is split, and I'm only going to find more BJAODN worthy descriptions to add as I continue editing ingredient and recipe pages. If we do split, the current description for Items ("Thought Trial Stew or Mistake were useless? See these!") would be moved to the Recipes collection, and a new one would be made for the Items collection. I'm kinda 50/50 on a split, but I thought I'd bring it up anyway. [[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 22:30, January 25, 2025 (EST)
:I do rather keep the amount of splits to a minimum. I had some trouble revisiting older entries sometimes. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:38, January 25, 2025 (EST)
::Fair, fair. [[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 22:40, January 25, 2025 (EST)

==Allow comments to be made collapsible==
{{settled TPP}} 
{{proposal outcome|passed|8-0|Allow}}
It has been brought up on the Wiki Discord that in many cases, commentary on an entry takes away from the entry itself, especially when a comment is long, there are many comments, or if there's a conversation. At the same time, humor is subjective, and often comments like this aren't "commenting for the sake of commenting" and shouldn't necessarily be removed. So, what do we do when some users enjoy the comments and others don't? Well, we make seeing the comments optional by making them collapsible. This way, none of these comments have to be removed, but they don't have to take away from the entry they're commenting from. 

It would look something like this: 
{{fake heading|3|[[MarioWiki:BJAODN|BJAODN Rules]]}}
*Also, newbie bashing is not tolerated. There is a difference between poorly written articles newbies are susceptible to '''makeing''' and something so cretinous and devoid of information that you become suspicious of the sanity of the writer. We only accept the '''later''' variety.

<div class="contentbox mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"data-expandtext="Show comments"data-collapsetext="Hide comments">
("''A typo in the rules for a page about bad writing? That's just... sad. And ironic.''" - {{User|Walkazo}})
:"''Actually, the original version of the rules [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki%3ABJAODN&diff=501558&oldid=482833 had even more grammar mistakes¸]... I wrote those.''" - {{User|Blitzwing}})
::"''Yeah, I wrote that. Whoops. In my defense though, it certainly made more sense than what was there before;''"

::*Also, newbie bashing is not tolerated, there is a difference between poor articles newbie are susceptible to make and something so cretinous and devoid of information enough to makes you suspecting of the sanity of the writer: We only accept the later variety.
:: - {{User|Twentytwofiftyseven}})
</div>

Now, originally my idea here was to make an objective guideline as to when to make comments collapsible (either all comments are even if there's only one, or only sections with more than 2 or 3 get them). However, I now think it would be better to just have collapsible comments be an option for people, just as adding comments is. That is, if you feel an entry would be improved with collapsible comments, you can go ahead and edit that in. But if a comment enhances an entry, then you can keep it as is. For example:

{{fake heading|3|[[Black hole|Black Hole]]}}
Under the planet a [[Black hole|Black Hole]] can be found just in case Mario falls off.

("''Yes, we wouldn't want Mario living, now would we?''")

So, to recap, if this proposal passes, editors will be allowed to make the comments on an entry collapsible, but this is entirely optional and should not be done for every single entry. It's just giving editors the choice to do so if they feel it will improve the humor of the entry. 

'''Proposer''': {{User|Technetium}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>February 12, 2025, 23:59 GMT</s> Closed early on February 5, 2025, 23:59 GMT

===Ready or not, here I come (Support)===
#{{User|Technetium}} <div class="contentbox mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"data-expandtext="Show reason"data-collapsetext="Hide reason">I'm a master, you see. I love sneaking and hiding so much, I just never stop! It WAS a hobby, but I kept hiding...and soon I was known as the Hide-'n'-Seek Cactus!</div>
#{{User|Tails777}} I myself greatly enjoy the entries of the BJAODN and I also enjoy the comments made by others. But to be respectful of the "Humor is subjective" concept, I believe having these options is important. Per proposal.
#{{User|Rykitu}} Great idea! Now my cringy comments I made from first joining the wiki will be seen less! (I thought Pirate Goomba was peak comedy)
#{{User|Arend}} I've been thinking about specifically this implementation from time to time, to make it easier to recognize and separate the comments from the entries... but that's kinda where it ended, so I'm happy someone else came to this suggestion. [[#The user comments kinda suck|Suggestions to improve the comments have been made before]], and while I like the idea discussed there, it ultimately makes the comments even more of a highlight, so a simple show/hide button would be more ideal.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Like the rest of the wiki, this helps keep the focus on the actual content and the user's interpretation of said content, rather than existing commentary.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} <div class="contentbox mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"data-expandtext="Show reason"data-collapsetext="Hide reason">Per all.</div>
#{{User|Mushroom Head}} <div class="contentbox mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"data-expandtext="Per all. Click to see the other reason."data-collapsetext="Hide reason">It's fun. Still, Per all.</div>
#{{User|Nelsonic}} Per all.

===Come out, come out wherever you are (Oppose)===


===Comments on comments===
You can use {{tem|hide}} btw:
{{hide|show=Show comments|hide=Hide comments|content=
("''A typo in the rules for a page about bad writing? That's just... sad. And ironic.''" - {{User|Walkazo}})
:"''Actually, the original version of the rules [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki%3ABJAODN&diff=501558&oldid=482833 had even more grammar mistakes¸]... I wrote those.''" - {{User|Blitzwing}})
::"''Yeah, I wrote that. Whoops. In my defense though, it certainly made more sense than what was there before;''"

::*Also, newbie bashing is not tolerated, there is a difference between poor articles newbie are susceptible to make and something so cretinous and devoid of information enough to makes you suspecting of the sanity of the writer: We only accept the later variety.
:: - {{User|Twentytwofiftyseven}})
}} --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 12:07, February 4, 2025 (EST)