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| == Remove Mario Kart Wii section? == | | == Remove Mario Kart Wii section? == |
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| I don't know if I'm the only user who thinks this, but I am uncomfortable with the ''Mario Kart Wii'' section. The reason is obvious - it mentions Adolf Hitler, a beyond controversial dictator, with the comments below it mentioning other controversial dictators during WWII. I know humor is subjective and ''maybe'' some people find this funny, but I don't. Am I allowed to create a proposal about the matter? {{User:Sparks/sig}} 11:49, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | | I don't know if I'm the only user who thinks this, but I am uncomfortable with the ''Mario Kart Wii'' section. The reason is obvious - it mentions Adolf Hitler, a beyond controversial dictator, with the comments below it mentioning other controversial dictators during WWII. I know humor is subjective and ''maybe'' some people find this funny, but I don't. Am I allowed to create a proposal about the matter? {{User:Sparks/sig}} 11:49, April 14, 2024 (EDT) |
| :I don't see why you couldn't make a proposal on this. I'd oppose it, though, because the mere mention of a historical figure isn't offensive in the least. If that section and its comments contained slurs or otherwise sought to disparage a group or individual, that'd be another story. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 12:10, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | | :I don't see why you couldn't make a proposal on this. I'd oppose it, though, because the mere mention of a historical figure isn't offensive in the least. If that section and its comments contained slurs or otherwise sought to disparage a group or individual, that'd be another story. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 12:10, April 14, 2024 (EDT) |
| ::I'd say it's still worth a shot. It never hurts to try right? {{User:Sparks/sig}} 12:12, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
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| :::Sure. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 12:15, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Proposal to remove Mario Kart Wii section ==
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| ===Remove the Mario Kart Wii section===
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| {{Settled TPP}}
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| {{Proposal outcome|cancelled}}
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| The ''Mario Kart Wii'' section mentions Adolf Hitler, a controversial dictator during WWII. The comments below the entry mention Stalin and Mussolini, two more controversial dictators alive during the time period. I'm sure that I am not the only user uncomfortable with this. I know humor is subjective, so some people will find this section funny, but I do not and I don't think such people should be mentioned.
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| I will say that I'm not sure how this proposal will go. If this proposal is to succeed, the section is removed - simple as that. If it fails, the sections stays. Everyone has a different sense of humor, so we'll see what happens.
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| '''Proposer''': {{User|Sparks}}<br>
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| '''Deadline''': April 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
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| #{{User|Sparks}} Per my proposal.
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| ====Oppose====
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| #{{User|Koopa con Carne}} Clutching one's pearls at the bad parts of history is understandable. Beyond acknowledging all these individuals as reprehensible, I have personal reasons to hate Stalin's guts and everything he stood for. That said, censoring that history on the basis that it was bad is childish.
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| I think it would be best for me to cancel this proposal now. This was a mistake, and I'm sorry. If this proposal was to keep going there'd be heated political arguments and no one would want that. These figures are controversial but as [[User:Koopa con Carne|Koopa con Carne]] said, the section just mentions their names, not anything offensive or the like. {{User:Sparks/sig}} 12:39, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
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| ===Post-proposal comments===
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| ...Dang, I was in the middle of writing my oppose vote:
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| Per KCC; additionally, thanks to a certain proposal that enlightened me on the existence of a [[Bill Gates]] article, I've also realized that this wiki hosts an article for [[Shitamachi Ninjō Gekijō|a certain subject]] that contain clear references to very explicit material. Mentions of Stalin and Hitler alone are peanuts compared to that. Plus this wiki is also fine with leaving swear words like "fuck" uncensored, if [[Bob Hoskins|Bob Hoskins's]] quotes are anything to go by.
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| {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:44, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Oh, I also forgot to say, that maybe it's better to create a notice template that warns the reader for mature/explicit, and/or sensitive material, rather than outright removing said material from the wiki. I think Bulbapedia had a similar notice template in the Trivia section of Lopunny. <s>We're not Bulbapedia obviously though, so maybe you guys find this stupid or whatever.</s> {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:48, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
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