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| There was a proposal about this a few weeks ago and while I don't remember what the outcome was, I would like to correct something I stated. | | There was a proposal about this a few weeks ago and while I don't remember what the outcome was, I would like to correct something I stated. |
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| A while back, I tried to add images to categories, which creates an image gallery within each category. Well, it didn't work for one or more reasons that Wayoshi pointed out. Well, it seems that it's working now and that might be something to think about. | | A while back, I tried to add images to categories, which creates an image gallery within each category. Well, it didn't work for one or more reasons that Wayoshi pointed out. Well, it seems that it's working now and that might be something to think about. |
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| As an example, I've added Image:NSMBDS 1-Up Mushroom Artwork.png and Image:Volt shroom.PNG to [[:Category:Mushrooms]]. Take a look when the chance permits. -- [[File:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[File:Shyghost.PNG]] 08:27, 27 January 2008 (EST) | | As an example, I've added Image:1upShroom.jpg and Image:Volt shroom.PNG to [[:Category:Mushrooms]]. Take a look when the chance permits. -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 08:27, 27 January 2008 (EST) |
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| :As an afterthought, the one problem I see with this is that many images will be cross linked to various categories (IE: Super Mushroom to Power Ups, Mushrooms, Items, etc.). For that purpose, images could be categorized based direction on what they are (IE: Super Mushroom is a Mushroom first and an Item second). -- [[File:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[File:Shyghost.PNG]] 08:30, 27 January 2008 (EST) | | :As an afterthought, the one problem I see with this is that many images will be cross linked to various categories (IE: Super Mushroom to Power Ups, Mushrooms, Items, etc.). For that purpose, images could be categorized based direction on what they are (IE: Super Mushroom is a Mushroom first and an Item second). -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 08:30, 27 January 2008 (EST) |
| :::I've tried solutions with DPL, but apparently, "<nowiki><gallery></nowiki>" is an evil word for DPL which makes the DPL go haywire or turn and run away. ("<nowiki><g4llery></nowiki>" "works") - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 09:01, 27 January 2008 (EST) | | :::I've tried solutions with DPL, but apparently, "<nowiki><gallery></nowiki>" is an evil word for DPL which makes the DPL go haywire or turn and run away. ("<nowiki><g4llery></nowiki>" "works") - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 09:01, 27 January 2008 (EST) |
| ::::Ok? I've already found a solution, as evident in the first paragraph. -- [[File:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[File:Shyghost.PNG]] 11:33, 27 January 2008 (EST) | | ::::Ok? I've already found a solution, as evident in the first paragraph. -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 11:33, 27 January 2008 (EST) |
| :::::The problem is, we are planning to use this on gallery pictures (like on [[Princess Peach]]), putting all these images in a category. And then ''remove them from the article''. Then these images are marked unused! This is a major problem, you can put as many "don't delete" notices on unused pictures, we've had incidents in the past where sysops didn't actually look at the image, just saw that it is unused and deleted it. Being unused is very dangerous for any image on this wiki. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:35, 27 January 2008 (EST) | | :::::The problem is, we are planning to use this on gallery pictures (like on [[Princess Peach]]), putting all these images in a category. And then ''remove them from the article''. Then these images are marked unused! This is a major problem, you can put as many "don't delete" notices on unused pictures, we've had incidents in the past where sysops didn't actually look at the image, just saw that it is unused and deleted it. Being unused is very dangerous for any image on this wiki. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:35, 27 January 2008 (EST) |
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| == Headers == | | == Headers == |
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| Why don't we use <nowiki>=Header Name=</nowiki> before doing <nowiki>==Header Name==</nowiki>? They also work.{{unsigned|Shroobario}} | | Why don't we use <nowiki>=Header Name=</nowiki> before doing <nowiki>==Header Name==</nowiki>? They also work.{{unsigned|Shroobario}} |
| :Yes, but <nowiki>=Header Name=</nowiki> creates a headline that is as big as the name of the page at the very top. And this is ''too'' big. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 09:33, 27 January 2008 (EST) | | :Yes, but <nowiki>=Header Name=</nowiki> creates a headline that is as big as the name of the page at the very top. And this is ''too'' big. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 09:33, 27 January 2008 (EST) |
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| Some "minor" article get kept while others are deleted without question. Since I made that soon-to-be infamous proposal, can we PLEASE deside WHAT GET'S SOMETHING AN ARTICLE??? [[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]] 20:46, 28 January 2008 (EST) | | Some "minor" article get kept while others are deleted without question. Since I made that soon-to-be infamous proposal, can we PLEASE deside WHAT GET'S SOMETHING AN ARTICLE??? [[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]] 20:46, 28 January 2008 (EST) |
| :Ok, well, affects game play is a bad thing, because that would include platforms, which isn't so great... I think we've argued that into a hole... how about this: a series of questions. | | :Ok, well, affects game play is a bad thing, because that would include platforms, which isn't so great... I think we've argued that into a hole... how about this: a series of questions. |
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| IMO, The notabillity of a subject should be decided by mutiples factor, not just “it affect Gameplay“ or “It have an official name”. Here's my thought on the subject.: | | IMO, The notabillity of a subject should be decided by mutiples factor, not just “it affect Gameplay“ or “It have an official name”. Here's my thought on the subject.: |
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| *'''The subject should be officialy named''': Not a prerequisit, but it sure help. Having an official name show that Nintendo cares about the subject. Of course, conjectural stuff can still have theirs own articles. [[Mecha-Zinger]] is separate enough from [[Zinger]] to have it's own article. | | *'''The subject should be offcialy named''': Not a prerequisit, but it sure help. Having an official name show that Nintendo cares about the subject. Of course, conjectural stuff can still have theirs own articles. [[Mecha-Zinger]] is separate enough from [[Zinger]] to have it's own article. |
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| *'''The subject should affect Gameplay... in revelant ways.''': Impacting the game world is another sign of nottability. However, it isn't everything. The afro-mentioned Snufit Ball (More on it later) affect Gameplay (It hurt Mario), however, this is only really marginal. In comparison, [[Cheese]] allow you to see a rare enemy in Luigi's Mansion, which is elaborate. | | *'''The subject should affect Gameplay... in revelant ways.''': Impacting the game world is another sign of nottability. However, it isn't everything. The afro-mentioned Snufit Ball (More on it later) affect Gameplay (It hurt Mario), however, this is only really marginal. In comparison, [[Cheese]] allow you to see a rare enemy in Luigi's Mansion, which is elaborate. |
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| *'''If creatures/objects/things similar to the subject exist, make sure there's enough to write about these separatly.''': The various [[Isle Delfino Birds]] may have a few differences, but it only varies in their coloration and what they give when you kill 'em. In comparison, the various [[Mushroom]] have more varied appearances, effect (The [[Mega Mushroom]] and the plain [[Mushroom]] don't do the same thing), are obtained differently (Some Mushroom in the Paper Mario series can only be obtained by cooking various items), ect.
| | (Note: I must exit the computer now, I'll add more thing later when I get on) --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 08:27, 30 January 2008 (EST) |
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| *'''Having a different name doesn't mean the subject is itself different.''': The [[Super Mario Land]] instruction manual refered to the [[Pirahna Plant]] enemy as “Pakkun Flower“. While a different name can be an indication of being a separate species, the Pakkun Flower look and act exactly like the garden variety Pirahna Plant. Futhermore, the SML instruction manual is notorious for it's rushed translation, and the japanese name of Piranha Plant is bassicaly written in English as “Pakkun Fura“. Because of these overwhelming evidences, Pakkun Flower was merged with Pirahna Plant, despite having a separate name.
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| *'''It should have enough distinctive feature''': OK, Snufit Ball affect gameplay, and..? It doesn't have an official name, it look like every generic firearm projectile, and it's generic. Do we have an article about the Fireball shooted by the [[Autobomb]]?
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| *'''Implied articles are fine... as long as there is signifiant content''': Having article on stuff that are mentioned but not seen is fine. [[Scarlette]], despite being never seen, play a small role in PM:TYD since her letter is what make Bomberry join you. In comparison, [[Old Man Skoo]] from the same game is some dude who is mentioned to have been eaten by Hooktail, and is never heard from again.
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| *'''Random Cameo by other videogames characters shouldn't have articles.''': See [[List of Cameos]].
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| *'''We allow out of Universe article.''': However, random voice actors don't get their owns articles since theirs isn't much information about 'em. Obliviously, Charle Martinet is an exception.
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| *'''It's great to be different, but...''': [[Young Cricket]] is a notable character with speaking lines and a proeminent role. Not so much for Master Mantis, who has no speaking lines and don't really do anything, making a separate article for Master Mantis would be a stub that couldn't be expanded. Since both characters are almost exclusively seen together, it make sense to have the two articles merged. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 08:27, 30 January 2008 (EST)
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| That ''sounds'' good, now, to act upon it and make it an offical policy. [[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]] How do we do that?
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| :Knife has started something and I'm helping him this weekend on it. It will go at the start of the [[MarioWiki:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]], or on some other MarioWiki page, to make it official.{{Unsigned|Wayoshi}}
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| Yeah, and what Blitzwing said helps a lot with what were planning. Be sure to see it after the weekend!{{User:Knife/sig}} 17:10, 30 January 2008 (EST)
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| :When I first joigned, I'd never thought I would help with something that would go in the frickin' '''Manual of style''' :O. {{User:Blitzwing/sig}}
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| ==Link==
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| Will I get in trouble for linking to Userpedia in my welcoming template? [[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]]
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| :I'm sceptical about personal welcome templates - they have a big problem, not getting updated. For example, we now have a link to the glossary in [[Help:Contents]] and {{tem|welcome}}, because a proposal complained about that the abbreviations on the wiki were explained nowhere, but the personal welcome templates didn't get an update and thus don't link to the [[MarioWiki:Glossary|Glossary]] themselves, so as more personal welcome templates are in use, the less we can successfully update the Help section. So I wonder whether it's actually a good idea allowing personal welcome templates in the first place.
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| :When you put a link to Userpedia in your template, you should make sure that it is pointed out that it is not part of the Wiki itself and we have no responsibility for it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:32, 30 January 2008 (EST)
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| ==Preview==
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| I find it annoying how people won't bother pressing the preview button when editing. Not only does it fill recent changes, but it adds to the persons edit count when they shouldnt have that. Once I have seen the same page being editing by the same person like 7 times in a row on recent changes maybe more. [[User:Alphaclaw11|Alphaclaw11]] 16:24, 2 February 2008 (EST)
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| :It's possible Media-Wiki wise to force users to preview the page once before submitting it, but it might also be in the way - for example, when you've created a new category and have to add it to a lot of pages, you have to preview ''every single'' of them. Or, when you've fixed a minor typo on a page like [[Princess Peach]] which takes very long to preview. I wouldn't advise using it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:42, 2 February 2008 (EST)
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| == Vandals ==
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| I notice that recently there have been alot of troll incidents where this users keeps spamming user talk pages, and shall we discuss about this?{{User:Fg/sig}}
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| :discuss what? <_> {{User:McDimentio/sig}} 19:11, 5 February 2008 (EST)
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| ::I meant what shall we do about this? Spammers Can't continue to do this or things will turn out to be ugly...{{User:Fg/sig}}
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| :::Add new user protection? It's not like that many new users talk to higher ups in their first few days, right? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 19:23, 5 February 2008 (EST)
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| ::::Doesn't seem like much can be done really. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] 20:00, 5 February 2008 (EST)
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| == Status/Notices ==
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| I can't see the status or the notices! There's an ad blocking it D:{{unsigned|Master Crash}}
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| : Well then you'll have to check [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] manually. {{User:Smiddle/sig}} 14:04, 6 February 2008 (EST)
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| Well that stinks.
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| :Only [[User:Porplemontage|Steve]] can change it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:33, 6 February 2008 (EST)
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| ::Bear with it for a while. Steve is increasing ad space so we have more funds to get a server move.{{User:Knife/sig}} 18:42, 6 February 2008 (EST)
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| == What happen to the brawl page? ==
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| Someone changed the Brawl page and said bad stuff about the game and cobold{{unsigned|Luigi-Tron 3000}}
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| :We have a vandal who returns from time to time and blanks pages. Don't worry, the damage can be undone easily. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:15, 7 February 2008 (EST)
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| == Brown Yoshi ==
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| I was thinking a while back that I have never seen artwork for [[Brown Yoshi]]. Would someone give me a link? I believe his last appearance was Super Mario World 2. I would ask this on the talk page, but it doesn't get much traffic. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 18:37, 10 February 2008 (EST)
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| == New user's pages and talkpages having blank content ==
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| I find it rather odd having new users blanking up the content in their own pages for a while; blanking their own content but the sig that user just made... I am very concerned about it as this will result of having leftover junk of pages that have no content whatsoever as I just found out in Special:Patrol. We can't watch every new user coming by in this wiki such cases, in well avoiding messes. Here is some examples of one of the new user's pages; [http://www.mariowiki.com/User:Rawk_Hawk 1) This is the user's page] [http://www.mariowiki.com/User_talk:Rawk_Hawk 2) This is the user's talk page]. (I am using links instead of article links to avoid build up in wanted pages) It's just... odd... even if they are not going to contribute to the wiki well often, just look at their contributions. Any comments are welcome here in this section. {{User:RAP/sig}} [[Special:Contributions/RAP|Just hanging out in Hooktail's stomach. :P Adding item entries until something pops up... *shifty*]]
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| : If you look at the [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Yoshi_Fan_911&action=history history] (before it got blanked) of [[User talk:Yoshi Fan 911]], the user with blank userpage is said to be one of Yoshi 911 sockpuppet. Yoshi 911 was the one to blank the talkpage of various users that were said to be his sockpuppets. Otherwise, I don't think a new user has even blanked his talk, (except for perhap the occasional odd guy that create an userpage but otherwise never edit) --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 07:07, 16 February 2008 (EST)
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| ::Yes, it's one of the three sockpuppets of Yoshi Fan 911, all of "them" blanked their talk pages after I gave him a warning for sockpuppeting, then a final warning for removing the first warning from his talk page. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:41, 16 February 2008 (EST)
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| ==Ads==
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| Can we please get rid of the ads?!?!?! [[User:Superjustin|Superjustin]] 11:15, 16 February 2008 (EST)
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| :Nay. The Ad's is what gives [[User:Porplemontage|Steve]] the money nesscesary to pay the hoster of the site. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 11:19, 16 February 2008 (EST)
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| Why are so much of the ads porn {{unsigned|Zanramon}}
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| ==8,000 Articles ==
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| We have reached 8,000 articles on the Super Mario Wiki. This does not count stub articles, however. The 8,000 article is [[BS Super Mario USA]] made by [[User:Red.Tide|Red.Tide]] on February 16, 2008. I would like to thank all of the people who have helped the wiki grow to what it is today. Now, let's all keep editing! <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>·</tt></small>
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| :Wha-what? I thought it was [[Hog]]! {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 13:52, 17 February 2008 (EST)
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| ::If I'm correct, it's BS Super Mario USA...ugh. CONFUSING. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>·</tt></small>
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| == Chat Rules ==
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| Recently, a few Users on Chat got into a huge flame war over religion. The argument turned very rough, and I was getting really close to banning the Users. It took me, like, half-an-hour to stop them, and it only stopped because I threatened to ban them for flaming. My point being, I think any talk about religion should not be allowed on the Chatroom. It causes too much conflict and chaos, and creates massive flame wars that completely ruins the fun of Chat for the rest of us. We had a discussion about this before on the Forums, but nothing was ever officially decided, so... I'm bringing it up here. I'm not sure if this type of content is allowed on this talk page or not... But, I took the chance. In case it isn't, please don't remove this comment completely, but instead, please move it to a proper talk page for this kind of content. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}
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| :I don't see why it shouldn't be here, as the chat is hosted on the wiki. Flaming is generally prohibited, but that shouldn't limit freedom of speech. Thus, the flaming persons should find a private place to settle their disputes. And if we have to ban (for a short time, a day?) them to make them look for it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:51, 29 February 2008 (EST)
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| ::let 'em discuss, just don't let 'em flame. Use the logic {{User:McDimentio/sig}}
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| :::Easier said than done, though. I'm not for limiting free speech, but there's gotta be some other option. It's unfair to DP to expect him to use his time putting out flames. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 10:58, 29 February 2008 (EST)
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| ::::DP: If you think back, we did decide on how to handle this. Problem was, certain users got in the way of anything constructive happening.
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| ::::Stumpers: I don't think it's unfair in the least. He accepted the responsibility of chat ops, he accepted all the crap that goes with it. -- [[File:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[File:Shyghost.PNG]] 15:38, 29 February 2008 (EST)
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| ==Database Errors==
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| Whenever I submit, the Wiki says I have an error... is this happening to anyone else? Might it be related to my promotion? Here's the text:
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| A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
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| from within function "SearchMySQL4::update". MySQL returned error "1194: Table 'searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)".
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| I can submit even though I get this error, but it makes it very hard to preview pages and such. I hope I'm the only one having this problem! {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:09, 3 March 2008 (EST)
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| :I seem to be having this problem too. [[User:Twink|Twink]] 21:12, 3 March 2008 (EST)
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| ::Yeah, sometimes it occurs with me as well. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:30, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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| :::Doesn't happen all the time for me, but it happens on occasion. Its annoying, at the very least. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}
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| ::::This happen to everyone. It's really annoying because you can't do search with it, you get a Database error even thought the rest of the wiki work fine. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 07:19, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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| :::::Ditto to DP!-[[User:Informant|Informant]] 19:53, 6 March 2008 (EST)
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| == Font ==
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| Does anyone know the name of the font used for the title screen of Super Mario World??-[[User:Informant|Informant]] 19:45, 6 March 2008 (EST)
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| == The forum is a craphole ==
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| There, I said it.
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| I would have posted this on said forum, but its freakin' obvious the administrator gave up on it. The whole thing is a battleground for petty flamewars and spam topics. Sure, the spambot's are gone, but the situation is as worse as it was two months ago. I think the forum need more moderators and that said moderators '''enforces the darn rules for once.''' I'm not the only user to thinks the forum is going downhill, something must be done about it. {{User:Blitzwing/sig}}
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| :In the last month, I've only had to delete a few topics (most by the same user) and end a few flame wars. As no mod can be expected to go post for post through each and every thread, we have this handy report to moderator function. That said, is there currently a problem thread that has not been addressed yet? -- [[File:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[File:Shyghost.PNG]] 21:14, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::Blah, when there's a thread [https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=1912.new#new about to pronouciate Mario name], you know that your forum is going downhill. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 07:25, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::RudnickiMarioX01 is being a total idiot. He's causing a lot of problems; the rest of us are using it as a playground. o.0 {{User:3dejong/sig|SPAM SPAM SPAM}}
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| ::::It seems that most of these problem that people are complaining about revolve around Rudniwhatever. I've given him a warning. -- [[File:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[File:Shyghost.PNG]] 07:46, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
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| == FAs ==
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| What are we waiting for? Christmas? I guess we have to do something about either rotating FAs or continue the system but anyways why aren't you guys doing something about this?{{User:Fg/sig}}
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| :Maybe we need to get more aggressive about nominations? Let's think of some articles that deserve FAs... ''Brawl'' will be pretty soon, I'm sure. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 17:03, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::We shouldn't aggressively try to make articles featured which aren't really good enough. There's no ''need'' for having a new FA, like, every week. If we find new articles worthy of FA status, that's fine, but we don't have to. But I agree that we should do something about the article featured on the main page. I suggest that as long as there are no new FAs, we put one of the old FAs on the main page every week. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 18:06, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::I didn't suggest that we nominate low quality articles. As you know, each FA is nominated, then goes through a scrutinizing that ultimately makes the article FA status, hopefully. There are lots of articles out there that I feel would make FAs with that kind of scrutinizing, but haven't been nominated for whatever reason. For example, ''[[Mario Strikers Charged]]'' or ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 12:53, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::::Brawl can't be nominated, is has construction templates on it. One of the requirements for nominations is that there are no templates like that on the page. (For the same, reason, Boo gets nominated all the time, but the nomination gets deleted because of the rewrite template.) - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 12:55, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::Please read what I've written: "''Brawl'' will (ready for FA nomination) pretty soon, I'm sure." {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 13:02, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ==MarioWiki Map not working...==
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| As I recently checking during my limited time of my very night, I checked that special page [[Special:FrapprMap]] once again, this time the page is actually not working. It's possible that it actually expired for some reason, but I think Steve didn't have time to check this. In the looks towards the screen is completely blank, not running at all, no questions asked. :( Any suggestions, compliants, comments would be welcome here. Should we recover this special page or will Steve remove the extension for a reason to annouce with? {{User:RAP/sig}} [[Special:Contributions/RAP|My wand can't work on that special page! Even if I burn, melt, or even torn it! ;_; So do Hooky! :P]]
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| :Uhm, it works for me. Be sure to enable JavaScript when viewing it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:20, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::Oh, it is running. Hmmmm, I can't seem to enter it when it's during the night, even if I have my JavaScript on. I wonder why... {{User:RAP/sig}} [[Special:Contributions/RAP|LOL and I thought the map's crashed. XP]]
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| == Bad Jokes archives ==
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| Per [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive#.22Bad_Jokes_and_other_deleted_Nonsense.22_-style_archive this proposal], we are now supposed to create an archive for poor writing and funny vandalism. However, the name of the archive as well as the specific rules haven't been decided yet, anybody involved in the vote want to discuss it? --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 07:49, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :Well, we could simply call it the humour archive if you can't think of something else. What should not be in there is outright spam, but the Beezo article perhaps? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 07:57, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::Uh, do you mean that we should put the (old) Beezo article, or not put it? I'm confused. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 08:03, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::I was talking about [[User:Blitzwing#Most_Rubbish_page_on_the_wiki|what is here]]. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:22, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::: Duh, I know it was about the revision I keep on my Userpage. What I meant is did you mean that we should put that Beezo article on the Humour archive, or not put it at all? Your comment kinda confused me. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 08:24, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::Well, of course that's the kind of content that would fit for it. (AKA put it in) - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:28, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::::Ah, OK, I agree. I wonder if proposals can also be put in the Bad Jokes archives, things like "Pie for everyone" and the (in)famous "LET'S RECREATE SNUFIT BALL AGGRESSIVELY" proposals seems worthy of being in that archive. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 08:30, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::::And of course, we're not forgetting Pirate Goomba is a Pirate Goomba. That would be the best, perfectest example of what not to do. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>·</tt></small>
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| Just my two cents: pure, mean-spirited vandalism doesn't belong here. These are "messed-up" / botched edits or pages whose end results were funny, some of which serving as examples for newbies not to do. One of the concerns of the opposers was to promote trolls, so anything of that nature should NOT go here. I'll help set up the rules in the common light green box when the archive is created...the title should be one word after the namespace: MarioWiki:Nonsense, MarioWiki:Omissions...yeah, I'm stuck too. I'll find something :P {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 14:11, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| [[MarioWiki:BJAODN|There it is.]]
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| Any opinion? Thoughts? Comments? --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 19:40, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| == What about the foreign-language names? ==
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| I see an increasing number of articles where the names from other languages (mainly French and German) are mentioned. Is it now offcially allowed to add the non-English names? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:30, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :I don't see a reason against it. There was never a rule concerning that subject. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:31, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::So I assume we can also make foreign-language redirects, such as Teresa redirecting to Boo. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 11:35, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::So if nobody complains I'd like to add German names of the various creatures - there are ''a lot''. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:42, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::::Well, things like Koopa are untranslated, especially the Paper Mario series had an awesome translation though. [[Fahr Outpost|Großfrostheim]] is such an obvious pun on the seat of Nintendo of Europe. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:46, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::::Not to mention that "Koopa Troopa" isn't the original name anyway. I wonder how many of the names in the Mario series are internationally unchanged (like Luigi, Donkey Kong and Wario)? I guess less than half of the names, since already major characters like Bowser (Koopa) and Toad (Kinopio) have changed names. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:32, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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| Please read my suggestion: Some characters like [[Professor Elvin Gadd]] do really have a lot of different names. If you look at the Gadd article, four non-English names are mentioned in the very first sentence. Looks a bit overcrowded, doesn't it? What about a seperate section for the non-English names within the article? We could make a list for every of the affected articles plus the names' meaning next to every name. Like that (but in a table, of course):
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| *Japanese: Professor Oyama – Named after the game designer Yoshiyuki Oyama
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| *French: Professeur Karl Tastroff – Pun on "catastrophe"
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| *German: Professor Immanuel Gidd – Pun on "igitt", meaning "egad"
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| Comments? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:05, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :We could also add a section to the character and species templates. Articles that don't have such templates could still have the foreign-language name in the first sentence, like it's been done in the past. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 15:09, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::Hum, I think then some of the templates would get too long. I still think that a seperate section under or above the Trivia section would be the best compromise, it's also an effective way to include the meaning of the names and it wouldn't disturb the readability of the article. But that's only my humble opinion, of course. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:20, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::The Trivia section itself seems best for such notices (see [[Fahr Outpost]]). - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:25, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::::Possible, but e.g. Elvin Gadd has five more names (the Italian one isn't mentioned so far). Wouldn't that cause five additional points for the Trivia section, but a Trivia section shouldn't include too many points? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:30, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::::Depends on how much points of a trivia section would fit better into the main article (purpose of {{tem|Trivia}}). - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:04, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
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| I made a page to visualize my thoughts on the topic how the non-English names could be mentioned: [[User:Grandy02/Test]]. Comments? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 10:55, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :Looks good. Petey's German name should have a note about the "Tyranha". - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:29, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::Thanks! :-) I would like to know whether this is now acceptable for the MarioWiki? And if yes, could someone make a template (including the different languages, namely Japanese, French, German, Spanish, Italian and Swedish so far), since a completely static table wouldn't be that good? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:47, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::Looks good to me as well. I'm a n00b in making templates though, so I can't do it. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 14:59, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::::Thanks, too! I could make a template with only one editable column per row, but not with two editable columns per row (Name and Meaning). Anyone who could do that? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 18:00, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::::Sounds like a job. How many different languages should be featured on it? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:42, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::::::As I told, there are currently names in Japanese, French, German, Spanish, Italian and Swedish on the Wiki, that are 6 languages. But it should be easy to add new languages to the template. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:06, 25 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::::Okay, [[Template:Foreign names]] should be ready, maybe someone can fix that description though, not the best explanation there from me. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:33, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::::::Thank you very much for your effort! :-) First I've used the article in the [[E. Gadd]] article, please look if I used it right. I was unsure whether I should make an additional headline under the Trivia section. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:54, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ==FA==
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| Uh...hasn't [[King K. Rool]] been a featured article already? {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}}
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| :He has but there isn't a rule that articles can't be FA twice. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>·</tt></small>
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| ::We had a rotation for previously featured articles, it just got forgotten out of general Main Page laziness. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 05:26, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::Oh, okay. I didn't know that. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Thanks for telling me!}}
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| == Possessive Linking ==
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| I've been noticing two distinct methods of linking to articles when a possessive form of the subject is used. We really should have a concensus for this, and we probably already do: If I'm writing, "Mario's brother Luigi asked for Princess Peach's help," how should it be linked?
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| #"[[Mario]]'s brother [[Luigi]] asked for [[Princess Peach]]'s help,"
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| #"[[Mario|Mario's]] brother [[Luigi]] asked for [[Princess Peach|Princess Peach's]] help,"
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| Which should it be? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 22:32, 25 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :In my opinion, it should be the first-mentioned. It's linking to '''Mario''', not '''Mario's'''. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|?}}
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| ::Yup. Easier to write, and also more intuitive imho. You can also argue grammatically, that the ''''s''' is not a case ending but rather a [[wikipedia:Clitic|clitic]], which means it is ''grammatically independent'' from the noun. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:56, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::The first one is better because its easier to write and to understand. Though for '''bold text''', '''Mario's''' should be used. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 07:05, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
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| == Templates ==
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| We have quite many different navigation templates on this wiki, and all seem to be created from scratch every time. The result is a template list like at the end of the [[Dry Bones]] article. Templates with different sizes, colors and what not, which don't match with each other at all and are lined up in any random fashion. It simply looks ugly. I think we should go for a single template scheme for at least related templates (like SSB Characters, Stages, Items, etc.), and make everything collapsible. On Wikipedia templates, it is possible to give templates a parameter as to whether they are hidden or shown on the page. This could be used to make templates always visible on pages who only have one, but not on one who has twenty. The current style is just chaos. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:51, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :Yeah, you're right about that. (And since I've made a lot of navigation templates lately, I take a lot of blame). Templates shouldn't be random colors thrown together. "Ghostwhite" and "whitesmoke" are probably the best link backgrounds, and the best label backgrounds are probably "lightskyblue", "steelblue", "tomato", and "gray". Also, the templates at the bottom of a page should be arranged according to size. Example:
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| <nowiki>{{SMB}}</nowiki><br>
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| :The Stub Template should always be at the top of end-of-page templates. Then, small nav. templates would go next. If a template has a "showhide" on it, then it only takes up a certain amount of lines. The wider and deeper a template gets, the farther down it should be. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Sorry if I've made a lot of mistakes. :(}}
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| ::Rather, we ''should'' probably just keep one label color, and one background color. Two tops. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}}
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