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==== Support ==== | ==== Support ==== | ||
#{{user|Supermariofan67}} - This article is very well-written, has no red links, and has a lot of info. | #{{user|Supermariofan67}} - This article is very well-written, has no red links, and has a lot of info. | ||
==== Oppose ==== | ==== Oppose ==== | ||
# | #{{User|Baby Luigi}} The list of enemies, bosses, and objects irk me. I strongly believe that enemies here may need visual representations of themselves, because the average viewer may not know what a Splounder or a Flopter looks like because the enemy is never named in game and it forces viewers to click on a lot of articles until they finally get a visual picture of the character from clicking on the correct article or a name-guess. Besides, other featured articles list their enemies and objects, namely the ''Donkey Kong Country'' series articles, an example being ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest]]''. Addutionally, the reception section is half-assed, with no table, no Metacritic score, and some weasel-worded like criticisms, like its second, unsourced paragraph. Also, the gameplay paragraph can be rewritten. Having some enemies from Super Mario World, for example, does not exactly constitute as "elements from Super Mario World making a return". The gameplay section goes to great lengths explaining what makes a return from what previous game, when its priority is to first explain the general gameplay of how Mario functions; there's always first time viewers who may not know prior Mario information so this confuses potential first time readers and forces them to jump all over the wiki to know the full context of games. Therefore, that general gameplay should be talked about first, how the game plays, how Mario works, THEN it should list if those said elements of this game originate from a previous Mario game. | ||
# | #{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I agree with Baby Luigi. | ||
# | #{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Per both. Other than those major issues, everything else on the article is written nicely. It's just that those major sections are causing me to oppose. | ||
#{{User|Boo4761}} Large amounts of the article are lists. If we change those to what Baby Luigi said, maybe it could be worthy of featured status. | #{{User|Boo4761}} Large amounts of the article are lists. If we change those to what Baby Luigi said, maybe it could be worthy of featured status. | ||
# | #{{User|Alex95}} The whole article seems very overdone. The enemy list is expansive; other articles just have a simple list of the enemies. And it feels like there are ''two'' lists of usable power-ups, with both the transformations and items listing the same power-ups. The article has a lot of information, yes, but there is such a thing as too much information. In other words, per Baby Luigi. | ||
#{{User|PinkYoshiFan}} My new oppose is that the tables make it super long, which is annoying and per Baby Luigi | #{{User|PinkYoshiFan}} My new oppose is that the tables make it super long, which is annoying and per Baby Luigi | ||
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#When making a table of the enemies and the items (Baseball, Goomba Mask, Propeller Box etc), should we only list the first level they appear in? I'm thinking of making a table or two during next week. {{User|A51 Trooper}} | #When making a table of the enemies and the items (Baseball, Goomba Mask, Propeller Box etc), should we only list the first level they appear in? I'm thinking of making a table or two during next week. {{User|A51 Trooper}} | ||
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:::::::Compare SM3DW's article with ones ''[[Super Mario 64]]''{{'}}s or ''[[Super Mario 3D Land]]''{{'}}s. The enemies are listed by bullets. There isn't any need to go into ''this'' much info with 3D World's when everything else uses the simple bullets. Sure, tables look nice, but being consistent is nice, too. Unless there's a bestiary in game that describes what each enemy is an I don't know about it, the table isn't needed. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:13, 26 March 2017 (EDT) | :::::::Compare SM3DW's article with ones ''[[Super Mario 64]]''{{'}}s or ''[[Super Mario 3D Land]]''{{'}}s. The enemies are listed by bullets. There isn't any need to go into ''this'' much info with 3D World's when everything else uses the simple bullets. Sure, tables look nice, but being consistent is nice, too. Unless there's a bestiary in game that describes what each enemy is an I don't know about it, the table isn't needed. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:13, 26 March 2017 (EDT) | ||
::::::::But compare that to games that are currently featured like [[Yoshi's Island DS]], or [[Donkey Kong Country]], where information like that '''is''' in tables. The reason they're in tables is so the reader can easily identify what the enemy is, rather than just playing pot luck by clicking randomly until they get to the desired page. {{User|Yoshi876}} | ::::::::But compare that to games that are currently featured like [[Yoshi's Island DS]], or [[Donkey Kong Country]], where information like that '''is''' in tables. The reason they're in tables is so the reader can easily identify what the enemy is, rather than just playing pot luck by clicking randomly until they get to the desired page. {{User|Yoshi876}} | ||
:::::::What do you think of [[User:Supermariofan67/Sandbox1|this]]? I was able to make the tables take up less space. I also removed the duplicate table for power ups. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 20:39, 26 March 2017 (EDT) | :::::::What do you think of [[User:Supermariofan67/Sandbox1|this]]? I was able to make the tables take up less space. I also removed the duplicate table for power ups. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 20:39, 26 March 2017 (EDT) | ||
@{{User|Pikante}} I don't think you can support and oppose at the same time. Also, your reasons are about the game itself and not the article. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 22:01, 27 March 2017 (EDT) | @{{User|Pikante}} I don't think you can support and oppose at the same time. Also, your reasons are about the game itself and not the article. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 22:01, 27 March 2017 (EDT) | ||
:He cannot, and the rules state to remove any vote that contains a "fan vote", so his votes have been removed. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:08, 27 March 2017 (EDT) | :He cannot, and the rules state to remove any vote that contains a "fan vote", so his votes have been removed. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:08, 27 March 2017 (EDT) | ||
