Editing MarioWiki:BJAODN/Proposals/April Fool's 2024

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==New features==
===A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' For Everyone===
[[File:HamburgerSSBB.PNG|thumb|left|A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''.]]
I was sifting through new files the other day, and I happen to think "What could make this job better?" Well, the obvious answer was A [[Hamburger]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''.
 
So, I'm proposing that we have A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' available to any and all of our editors 24/7. Flavors include pie flavor and freedom (due to monitory constraints, it might be wise to limit ourselves to just those flavors). Further, these A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''s would be made and hand delivered by the A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' Button, using its, and I quote, "1337 wiki skillz".
 
Think about this for a moment. If out active users had a hot, fresh A Hamburger straight from ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' hand delivered to them while they edit....well, just think of the high quality articles that we would gain. A full, satisfied Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' is a power force.
 
'''Proposer:''' {{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' November 3, 2024, 15:00 EDT
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Delicious A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''</div>
#{{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}}
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} ADD HAMBURGER AND PIE! PLUS PINK BURGERS TO SATISFY PINK DONKEY KONG SENIOR(PS. I thought Pink DK Sr. was Cranky Kong in a color phase when TV turned from black and white to color) AND ALSO HAVE THEM IN EVERY SMASH PAGE, nay, EVERY MARIO WIKI PAGE!!!!!!!
#{{User|FanOfYoshi|Yoshi Hater}} YASS!!!1!1
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} borgr in barwl
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|Anime Hater}} Might as well.
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|Food Lover}} YES YES YES YES!!!
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|Meh}} Meh.
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|FOOD FOR LIFE!!!!}} YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#[[wikipedia:Paimon (Genshin Impact)|Paimon]] ([[wikipedia:Talk:Paimon (Genshin Impact)|talk]]) I'm glad I won't be eaten this year.
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>No A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' for You (AKA TOO MUCH SMASH COVERAGE)</div>
#{{User|Hewer|Hewberger}} - This is pure nonsense.
#[[User:SolemnStormcloud|Pink Donkey Kong Sr.]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) {{color|hotpink|No [https://boundedbybuns.com/recipes/r/hot-pink-cheeseburgers-the-barbie-burger pink burgers]? Not interested.}}
#{{User|Arend}} Why not A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''?
#{{User|Tails777}} As someone who just finished their shift at McDonald’s, I say no hamburger.
#{{User|Test|Eine Person aus Hamburg}} Ich möchte keine Leute aus [[wikipedia:Hamburg|Hamburg]] essen.
#{{User|FanOfRosalina2007}} Per Hewer (Hewberger?). I prefer ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' cheeseburgers, for the record.
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>I want to go to [[wikipedia:Hamburg|Hamburg]].</div>
#{{User|Wynn Liaw}} I've never been there.
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Comments</div>
I vote for A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' instead of A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''...
 
...er, yes, what exactly are you trying to say? {{User|Hewer|Hewberger}} 10:43, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
:What we mean to say is th===one of every food and driink===
::You all don't seem to understand just how 1337 the A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' Button really is. It is so damn 1337 that it can actually hax0r a piece of A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', physically, through your computer screen. There is nothing virtual about it. {{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} 13:17, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
 
I cant believe that 3 voters are voting for A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', THIS IS A NONSENSE! {{User|Hewer|Hewberger}} 13:17, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
:I gotta ask, though: why did you pick the name "Hew''berger''" if you hate hamburgers so much? Sorry if it's a sensitive question or something, I'm just curious. {{User:Arend/sig}} 15:02, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
:: *shrug* VOTE FOR ALL BURGERS! {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 14:04, April 1, 2024 (CST)
::What are you saying I am not named after burgers!! That would be stupid it's spelled Hewb<big>'''''e'''''</big>rger! Next you'll be saying Hamburgers are named after Hamburg or something and not ham {{User|Hewer|Hewberger}} 15:13, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
:::Please remain civil in these comments. This is not a nonsense proposal at all, I just want to spread the joy of A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' to all. I hear your complaints, your detraction's and your concerns. Perhaps we don't see eye to eye, but I am here for you. I've been here for you for years and I know how to help you fully understand the untapped potential A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' presents for us. A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' help you all. {{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} 15:18, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
 
===Can we have one ever fery food and drink to===
[[File:Food Brawl artwork.png|thumb|200px|right|pictured: We want this (& more)]]
we want one of ewvery food & driink
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|Camwoodstock}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>April 2, 2024, 23:59 GMT</s> until we get our food And drink
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Support</div>
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} [make a statement indicating that you support our foood and  dink]
#{{User|Camwoodstock}}  Please
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} Pink Donkey Kong Sr., there will be pink foods & PIE in there.
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|Anime Hater}} Might as well.
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|Food Lover}} YES YES YES YES!!!
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|Meh}} Meh.
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|FOOD FOR LIFE!!!!}} YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>GO BACK TO SLEPE. & STARF</div>
#[[User:SolemnStormcloud|Pink Donkey Kong Sr.]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) {{color|hotpink|Most of it isn't pink. Or pie.}}
#{{User|Hewer|Hewberger}} Ugh, take out the hamburgers, I hate hamburgers.
#{{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} Please don't hog A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''. Let all the editors heal six percent of their health if they so wish.
#{{User|Koopa con Carne|Koopa sin Carne}}
#{{User|FanOfRosalina2007}} Wait...it just dawned on me that all of these proposals are...''April Fools' Day jokes?!'' How did I not realize that? Anyway, this has gone too far.
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Comments {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 11:36, April 1, 2024 (EDT)</div>
Bruh {{@|Camwoodstock}} using "comments" literally. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 14:00, April 1, 2024 (CST)
 
==Removals==
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
 
'''Proposer''': [[User:Koopa con Carne|<nowiki>{{User|[enter your username here]}}</nowiki>]]<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "April 1, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Support</div>
#{{User|Koopa con Carne}} Hard agree from me. Such an attitude is of utmost salience in a community and should be deeply and proactively fostered to ensure not just the growth of this knowledge base, but the synergy between the registered userbase and readers.
#[[User:SolemnStormcloud|Pink Donkey Kong Sr.]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) {{color|hotpink|I like this idea!}}
#[[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi Hater]] ([[User talk:FanOfYoshi|talk]]) Such perfectly constructed arguments you got there! I agree with everything you said!
#{{User|Arend}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} This proposal honestly confused me. I saw it as a proposal to expand our coverage to everything Mario, which I support. And by everything Mario, I MEAN EVERYTHING MARIO! [Insert edit about being confused and potentially mis-interpreting the proposal]
#{{User|Tails777}} [Insert obligatory “Per all” vote]
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} [Insert obligatory subsequent "Per all" vote]
#[[User:PnnyCrygr|ShlyRd]] ([[User talk:PnnyCrygr|talk]]) [Insert positive argument statement]
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Oppose</div>
#{{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} OK, I'm really confused. I don't understand this logic at all. How could anyone come to that conclusion with this little official evidence? And what would happen to pages like [[Special:Random|this]] if this dumb proposal were to pass? Hard oppose from me, let's keep this wiki reliable as a source of information. EDIT: For some extra clarity, I want to be very clear that I still oppose this proposal. It feels hastily written and doesn't fully consider the whole situation, so the result would be pretty messy. I might support an option to only make half of the changes if it was added, though, since I can somewhat see the argument for those.
#{{User|BMfan08|XDfan17}} [long, well-thought counter-argument that everyone ignores because there are more support votes]
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Comments</div>
@Hewbert P. Edia the proposal literally states that the article you mention won't be affected. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 09:19, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
:My bad, I should've read the proposal more closely. I'm still opposing, though, because I still think the idea of just suddenly making a change like this is pretty stupid. I've edited my vote to be clearer. {{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} 09:41, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
::I mean, put yourself in Miyamoto's shoes for a moment: wouldn't you ''want'' Luigi to have another year dedicated to himself and get people talking about it online? That's what I mean by synergy. It's just common sense to cite the Luigi fanfic in that article; Nintendo is a small, hardworking indie company and deserves every bit of promo for their Luigi campaign. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 14:22, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
{{@|XDFan17}} You didn't read the proposal.{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 09:41, April 1, 2024 (CST)
:Yes I did, otherwise I wouldn't have a reason to oppose it. {{User|BMfan08|XDfan17}}
::No you didn't. If you did, then tell me what it's about. :-). {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 10:19, April 1, 2024 (CST)
:::It's right there in the description. You can't figure that out? {{User|BMfan08|XDfan17}}
::::I think it's time for you to go home, XDfan. You're off your rocker again. [[User:BMfan08|BMfan08]] ([[User talk:BMfan08|talk]]) 11:35, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
==Changes==
===Allow our BJAODN pages to be Featured Articles===
Our Featured Articles have always been about showing everyone what true too standards for quality articles look like. Articles that show the best writing and such. But I also believe that another good way of showing what our best looks like is by also showing what our bad jokes or other deleted nonsense looks like. Therefore I propose that we allow all our bad jokes and other deleted nonsense to have the opportunity to join the ranks as some of our best articles! Sure, they have to pass a nomination first, but let’s give our worst a fighting chance!

'''Proposer:''' [[User:Tails777|User:Heads333]]<br>
'''Deadline:''' Tomorrow
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Let’s Do It (Support)</div>
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} YES PLEASE NO DISCRIMINATION OF PAGES!!
#[[User:SolemnStormcloud|Pink Donkey Kong Sr.]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) {{color|hotpink|If it means [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Junior (II)|my son]] will get his chance in the spotlight, I'll consider it.}}
#{{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} How will anyone be able to tell what's good if we keep suppressing the bad?
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} how else can we get the recognition that [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/In the Clouds]] deserves
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Are you Crazy? (Oppose)</div>
#{{User|Tails777}} I dunno who this Heads333 guy is, be he might be nuts.
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Whoa, slow down. Let’s talk about this (Comments)</div>
==={{color|hotpink|Restore [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Junior (II)|my son's]] page}}===
[[File:Donkey Kong SSB4 Artwork - Pink.jpg|thumb|{{color|hotpink|This is me. No, it's not any grandson from the future — [[Cranky Kong|why would you think that?]]}}]]
{{color|hotpink|Unforgivable. [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Junior (II)|My son]] had been training all year long for that [[Donkey Kong Jr. Math|math competition]], and you Super Mario Wiki users sweep his achievements under the rug? Treat him as the same person as [[Donkey Kong|the host's]] [[Donkey Kong Jr.|son]]?! ''Despicable''.}}

{{color|hotpink|To this end, I have captured one of the users who had mocked Pink Donkey Kong Jr., [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]], and seized control of his account. I propose that you users are to restore my son's page. If you decide against this, I will throw SolemnStormcloud into the same river the math competition was set at — which is now infested with [[Klaptrap]]s. I am only giving you one day let your friend live. If you truly care about my son, this shouldn't be difficult.}}

{{color|hotpink|*sigh* I need a {{wp|Musa velutina|pink banana}}...}}

'''Proposer''': <s>{{User|SolemnStormcloud}}</s> [[User:SolemnStormcloud|Pink Donkey Kong Sr.]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]])<br>
'''Deadline''': April 2, 2024, 23:59 GMT
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Support</div>
#[[User:SolemnStormcloud|Pink Donkey Kong Sr.]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) {{color|hotpink|The ''only'' correct choice.}}
#{{User|Koopa con Carne}} are you strawberry flavored? i want to lick your fur
#:This you? [[File:SMBW Talking Flower Artwork 3.png|50px]] {{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} 09:20, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
#::is this where you live [[File:MIM-Globulator Map.png|69px]] {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 15:28, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
#[[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi Hater]] ([[User talk:FanOfYoshi|talk]]) PINKY! THE PINKEST OF THE PINK!
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} GOTTA RESTORE RESTORE RESTORE!!!!!!!!!
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} From one monkey to another, we must.
#{{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} Fine, I'll support, but just to be clear, this proposal isn't really necessary. He will rise from beyond the grave whenever He sees fit. We don't truly have the power over Him that we pretend we do. Pink Donkey Kong Jr. is not our slave. He is our puppet master, and we are but His pawns.
#{{User|Wynn Liaw}} More people will know about [[wikipedia:Mỹ Sơn|the cluster of ruined temples in Vietnam]].
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Oppose</div>
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Comments</div>
You heard him! Just vote to support and let me free! I don't wanna be Klaptrap food! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 08:45, April 1, 2024 (EDT)

Don't worry, he is a playble character in [[User:Wynn Liaw|the Ultimate Fighting Game]] since January 1, 1988. {{User:Wynn Liaw/sig}} 22:30, April 1, 2024 (EDT)

==Miscellaneous==
===Plant a tree for every article we have===
Let's face it: the world is dying, thanks to global warming and stuff. Best to prolong the inevitable death as much as we can with all the power we've got, and what better way to do that than planting trees?
 
This proposal seeks to rectify the pollution from the big corporations by making the Super Mario Wiki the greenest wiki there is... by planting a tree for ''every single article we have''! This would result in approximately 28,521+ fresh trees. Not only that, but I also propose that we should plant a tree for every new article we create as well (hence the + at the aforementioned page count). This would add the incentive to not only create more articles, but ''also'' to save the world little by little. Two for the price of one!
 
Note that I'm only counting content pages here. If we're counting ''every'' page (talk pages, user pages, etc.), we'd have to plant approximately 320,705+ trees, which frankly might be a ''tad'' too cumbersome. Hence I'm not basing the number of trees to be planted on uploaded files (211,489+), total edit count (4,013,837+) or the amount of words in content pages (13,986,672+) either.
 
Now who's ready to save the planet?
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|Arend}}<br>
'''Deadline''': April 1, 2024, 23:59 GMT
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Support</div>
#{{User|Arend}} Let's save planet Earth!
#{{User|Tails777}} All for expanding the [[Woody Woods]]!
#[[User:SolemnStormcloud|Pink Donkey Kong Sr.]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) {{color|hotpink|We could use more ''{{wp|Musa velutina}}'' trees.}}
#[[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi Hater]] ([[User talk:FanOfYoshi|talk]]) The Lorax would be proud!
#{{User|Nintendo101}} [[File:SMS Asset Sprite MP Tree (Right).gif|25px]] [[File:SMS Asset Sprite MP Tree (Left).gif|25px]]
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} SAVE THE TREES, END THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT!
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Oppose</div>
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Ehh, another AI fling using up so much electricity will just offset any carbon benefit anyways.
#{{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} Would get in the way of other wiki projects. Let Earth die so we can all focus our efforts on our wiki, it's much more important than that random planet
#{{User|MegaBowser64|メガ クッパ 六十四}} LET IT DIE! LET IT DIE! LET IT SHRIVEL UP AND DIE! (come on, who's with me)
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Comments</div>
===Ban any mention of OOSAPION FROM THE WIKI===
That's right! Usapyon is an asshole! Yes, uSAPYON FROM yOKAI wATCH! Why? Because... In 2D artwork, he CONSTANTLY GRINS WITH TEETH, '''BUT HIS TEETH NEVER EXIST IN 3D/CGI, EVER§''' This is simply uncacepptable! Usapyon should be held accountable for this heinous crime on only reserving this to the 2D realm and withholding it in 3D/CGI... Actually, that applies to pretty much ANY Anime character who make facial expressions such as swirly eyes, heart eyes, star eyes and so on and so forth exclusively in 2D and never CGI (the 2D-3D inconsnstency crime) (looking at YOU, Ash Ketchum, my fictional counterpart!) We shall fight for 2D-3D consistency! And if i don't have a picture of Usapyon with teeth in 3D/CGI by tomorrow, i will riot against these characters! You hear me?
 
Proposer: [[User:FanOfYoshi|A passionate hater of the green dinosaur, of course]]
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Ban YOUSAPAION!</div>
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} [https://img.ifunny.co/images/684be5ce34192097ccbf1117773c89e38137078f640294a0f746ded8add994a4_1.jpg A rare picture of me (Larry) directly berating Usapyon (pATRICK)]
#{{User|Arend}} Shouldn't be too difficult since USApyon has barely any relevance here aside from sharing his Japanese name with that of [[Bunny Spring|an unrelated enemy that's about a decade older]], right?
#{{User|Mushroom Head}} I don't care if this will start world war 3, ban him from every place.
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Ban every anime character who makes '''''these''''' facial expressions in 2D, but never 3D/CGI</div>
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} [https://img.ifunny.co/images/684be5ce34192097ccbf1117773c89e38137078f640294a0f746ded8add994a4_1.jpg Same as above, but not limited to just Usapyon]
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Wario</div>
#{{User|Hewer|Hewario}} Get Wario'd! [[File:Bubblewario.jpg|50px]]
#{{User|Tails777}} Wah
#[[User:SolemnStormcloud|Pink Donkey Kong Sr.]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) {{color|hotpink|[[Kirby]] who? [[Wario-Man]] is the real pink hero!}} [[File:WWDIYSWarioManSprite.png|50px]]
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} DOWN WITH ANIME! EVEN WARIO IS BETTER, AND EVEN HE SUCKS, AND THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING!
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|Anime Hater}} I AGREE WITH {{@|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}}!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#{{User|Mario|Wario}} Wawa wia
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Look at how much longer it takes to vote for Wario
#{{User|Arend}} As secondary choice, ''I pick '''WWWWAAAAAAARRRRIIIIIOOOOO!!!!'''''
#{{User|BMfan08|WWfan08}} '''''WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARIOOO TIME!'''''
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>NOOO, LET THEM LIVE</div>
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Trash talk</div>
Need some clarification on the Wario option. It first stated "Ban Wario", now it just says "Wario", and so all supporters are voting it because they want Wario to stay. {{User:Arend/sig}} 10:22, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
:Eh, Wario isn't Anime. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 09:28, April 1, 2024 (CST)
::I just thought it'd be funnier to simply have the word Wario without anything specific lol --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:31, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
:::KEEP WARIO! BAN ANIME! {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|Anime Hater}} 13:35, March 26, 2024 (CST)
::::Yeah! He's Dr. Crygor's creation, anyway, so let him BE! "Wario" alone is a more powerful title for this proposal! {{User|PnnyCrygr|ShlyRd}}
 
===Are the enemies in SMB2 literal créations of Wart, or simply residents of Subcon who happened to have been corrupted by him?===
Ok, you might think this debate is stupid as shit, but hear me out:
Multiple enemies, such as Shy Guys, Birdoes, Ninjis and many others have reappeared in régions outside of Subcon, and Shy Guys and Snifits existed in Yoshi's Island, a game canonically set long before the events of SMB2, so there's a lingering question: Were the ones seen in SMB2 simply corrupted, or outright créated? Oh and if you're gonna argue that "But Yoshi! Shy Guys and Bob Ombs popped into existence from short, shallow jars", then i'll respond: First, it's FAN OF Yoshi... uh, i mean... HaterOfYoshi. Second, maybe Wart tampered with the very way they come into existence?
 
Option 1: You agree that they used to be residents of Subcon until Wart corrupted them, and that Fry Guy was the only one brought into existence/life.
 
Option 2: Self-explanatory
 
Option 3: You can use that as both a vote, and/or comment section.
 
Proposer: [[User:FanOfYoshi|HaterOfYoshi]] (aka HOY)
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>They were corrupted!</div>
#[[User:FanOfYoshi|HaterOfYoshi]] ([[User talk:FanOfYoshi|stalk]]) You can't convince me otherwise!
#[[User:SolemnStormcloud|Pink Donkey Kong Sr.]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) [[File:ShyguyPinkLeft.gif]] {{color|hotpink|The pink Shyguys are innocent. End of story.}}
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} THEY ALL INNOCENT!
#{{User|FanOfYoshi|Yoshi Hater}} Per all. Also, if you're wondering why Wart sealed the Subcons... Well, he did ''try'' to corrupt them, but their inherent purity served as shield for his corruption. And sealing them was a rétaliation, as Wart was frustrated by their défiance.
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Most of them didn't even exist at all until Wart came along!</div>
#{{User|Arend}} [https://www.gamesdatabase.org/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_NES/manual/Formated/Super_Mario_Bros._2_-_1986_-_Nintendo.pdf The manual] literally states that Wart "created monsters by playing with the dream machine", therefor we can conclude that not all of Wart's minions in the game were peaceful residents. The manual also mentions the [[8 bits]] as a "club of evil dreams", which is mentioned in the descriptions for Shyguy and Snifit, which means these are ''definitely'' creations of Wart, despite their appearances outside of Subcon (or they were always evil to begin with). Other creatures created by Wart or related to making evil dreams/destroying good dreams are Ninji, Pidgit, Panser, Autobomb, Mouser, and Fryguy, the first two having also appeared outside of Subcon. the ONLY creatures that are confirmed to have been residents prior to Wart's takeover are Albatoss, and maybe Trouter and Ostro. The fact that many of these creature that have been confirmed to be Wart's creations just so happen to have existed outside of Subcon before doesn't mean they were corrupted at all, but rather, it means a retcon instead.
#{{User|Hewer|Hewbert P. Edia}} Nah, not a retcon, Wart's just a plagiarist with unoriginal character designs
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} How do you know that Flurries were real beforehand? To be fair, '''''they are not real now anyways.'''''
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>How about we discuss the reason(s) as to why Wart felt compelled to corrupt Subcon instead?</div>
{{@|Arend}} WHAT DA FAQ YOU TALKIN ABOUT WILLIS!? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 09:29, April 1, 2024 (CST)
:{{@|Arend}} You do realize that this manual was written by Americans and not Japanese? Not all info is bound to be 100% correct! Besides, "création" isn't always used in the literal sense, it can sometimes be used figuratively! --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:41, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
::@HaterOfYoshi Yes I agree. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 09:43, April 1, 2024 (CST)
::Well, considering that ''SMB2'' was created ''for'' Americans (with the Japanese version, ''Super Mario USA'' not releasing until years later), and it being made from [[Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic|a game with a completely different story]], I assumed this ''was'' the original lore for these characters in the ''Super Mario'' franchise. Though, [https://vgtranslations.blogspot.com/2014/12/super-mario-usa-manual.html if the translation of this blog is to be believed], things are relatively the same inbetween ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' and ''Super Mario USA'' anyway. Now I do kinda wish I had the Doki Doki Panic manual at hand... {{User:Arend/sig}} 10:54, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
:::What if i told you [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/297596739807084544/1224373020404089062/image.png?ex=661d413b&is=660acc3b&hm=c417fea0511d15789887549d600adfd04f639fc516f7f4396a66673e8890ed9a& the epilogue said that "(Wart) went on to explain why he felt compelled to corrupt Subcon and its inhabitants]", so either this manual is a fraud or is a Photoshop. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:07, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
::::Well what if I told you that both of you are spouting crap, because Wart was influenced by Modern Eggman from the latest Modern Sonic game & Classic Eggman from the latest Classic Sonic game? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 10:23, April 1, 2024 (CST)
:::::@Arend The manual for YK:DDP can be found [https://www.gamingalexandria.com/fds/Doki%20Doki%20Panic/Doki%20Doki%20Panic%20-%20Manual.pdf here]. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 11:04, April 2, 2024 (EDT)
 
===Which is your favorite?===
'''Proposer''': {{User|Wynn Liaw}}<br>
'''Deadline''': April 1, 2024, 23:59 GMT
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2013#Mario (game)|Mario (game)]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2014#Waluigi to Fitness|Waluigi to Fitness]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2014#Waluigi's Warehouse|Waluigi's Warehouse]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2015#The Book of Kongs|The Book of Kongs]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2016#Mario (film)|Mario (film)]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2018/Fit and Funky|Fit and Funky]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2019/Mario Lore with Shigeru Miyamoto|Mario Lore with Shigeru Miyamoto]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2021/Super Luigi Galaxy 3|Super Luigi Galaxy 3]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2022/Mario movie leak|Untitled Mario film]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2024/Mushroom Kingdom Hearts|Mushroom Kingdom Hearts]]</div>
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>[[User:Wynn Liaw|The Ultimate Fighting Game]]</div>
#{{User|Wynn Liaw}} It has all my favorite characters.
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Comments</div>
Voting for "I forgot his name the frog dude" {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 23:05, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
 
===Cast Owen Wilson as Yoshi for the Mario Movie sequel===
He deserves to!
 
Proposer: {{User|FanOfYoshi|Owen Wilson Dino}}
 
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Wow</div>
#{{User|FanOfYoshi|Owen Wilson Dino!}} Wow!
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Kachow</div>
#{{User|FanOfYoshi|Owen Wilson Dino!}} Lightning McYoshi!
<div id=fh4 class=mw-headline>Honestly, man, you've really fucked me here</div>
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