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:::::::Yes, per Time Q. That's what I meant. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} | :::::::Yes, per Time Q. That's what I meant. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} | ||
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:I am not going to vote on this proposal, but rather I will sugget something else entirely. "Damsels" could be confusing to some people so no category should be named that, but "Characters in need of rescue" is far too long to be the name of a category. There are already so many categoryies already, so I propose that we just get rid of the category altogether. I know the category doesn't exist as of now, but why create it at {{ | :I am not going to vote on this proposal, but rather I will sugget something else entirely. "Damsels" could be confusing to some people so no category should be named that, but "Characters in need of rescue" is far too long to be the name of a category. There are already so many categoryies already, so I propose that we just get rid of the category altogether. I know the category doesn't exist as of now, but why create it at {{fakelink|all??|Sorry St00by D:}} {{User:Glitchman/sig}} | ||
::[[:Category:Hostages]] does exist. What about calling it, uh, "Kidnapped Characters"? How does that sound to native speakers? {{User:Time Q/sig}} 14:50, 31 March 2008 (EDT) | ::[[:Category:Hostages]] does exist. What about calling it, uh, "Kidnapped Characters"? How does that sound to native speakers? {{User:Time Q/sig}} 14:50, 31 March 2008 (EDT) | ||
:::Evidently a lot happened since I was gone. Okay, so let me try to get this sorted out. I didn't expect the Damsel Category to get changed while I was gone, (which is evidently why I made the proposal). The original "new" title I came up with is WAY too long, but it was all I could think of in the time I had to write it; that's why I changed that particular part of the proposal. So, [[User:Time Q|Time Q]]: The category should '''not''' be retitled '''Category:Characters in Need of Rescue''', because it is too long. Since [[User:Booster|Booster]] changed it to '''Hostages''', that's an improvement. Although I have to say that that's still not quite right. Possibly, the category's name could be changed to '''Category:Captives'''; that term is more fitting. ''Definition: One that is held against his/her own will.'' I've spent all morning looking up synonyms and definitions for "Hostage", and "Captive" is the best one I can find. (Thanks to [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|PGB]] for the idea.) And, as was discussed earlier, "Hostage": ''Definition: Victim of a kidnapper who will be returned via the payment of ransom.'' So, grammatically speaking, the best category name we probably have is '''Category:Captives'''. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Glitchman, thou art still my friend. ;)}} | :::Evidently a lot happened since I was gone. Okay, so let me try to get this sorted out. I didn't expect the Damsel Category to get changed while I was gone, (which is evidently why I made the proposal). The original "new" title I came up with is WAY too long, but it was all I could think of in the time I had to write it; that's why I changed that particular part of the proposal. So, [[User:Time Q|Time Q]]: The category should '''not''' be retitled '''Category:Characters in Need of Rescue''', because it is too long. Since [[User:Booster|Booster]] changed it to '''Hostages''', that's an improvement. Although I have to say that that's still not quite right. Possibly, the category's name could be changed to '''Category:Captives'''; that term is more fitting. ''Definition: One that is held against his/her own will.'' I've spent all morning looking up synonyms and definitions for "Hostage", and "Captive" is the best one I can find. (Thanks to [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|PGB]] for the idea.) And, as was discussed earlier, "Hostage": ''Definition: Victim of a kidnapper who will be returned via the payment of ransom.'' So, grammatically speaking, the best category name we probably have is '''Category:Captives'''. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Glitchman, thou art still my friend. ;)}} | ||
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:::Both captives and hostages seem fine to me. I like the word hostages more, but I have no particular preference. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 18:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC) | :::Both captives and hostages seem fine to me. I like the word hostages more, but I have no particular preference. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 18:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Rename to Kidnapped == | == Rename to either Captive or Kidnapped == | ||
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In my opinion 'Hostages' sounds too dark for the ''Mario series'', so I propose that we rename it to either 'Captives' or 'Kidnapped. | |||
'''Proposer''': {{User|Yoshi876}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Yoshi876}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': July 14, 2013, 23:59 GMT | '''Deadline''': July 14, 2013, 23:59 GMT | ||
===Rename to Captive=== | |||
#<s>{{User|Yoshi876}} Although 'kidnapped' would probably work it does sound more for when a child is taken, 'Captive' is more broad.</s> | |||
#<s>{{User|A Paragoomba and the Koopa Bros.}} Per Yoshi876.</s> | |||
===Rename to Kidnapped=== | ===Rename to Kidnapped=== | ||
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#{{User|Vommack}} Too dark? Darker things have been tackled in Mario, and as Mario4Ever said, it's a pointless rename. | #{{User|Vommack}} Too dark? Darker things have been tackled in Mario, and as Mario4Ever said, it's a pointless rename. | ||
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} "Hostage" isn't even ''that'' dark in the first place | #{{User|Baby Luigi}} "Hostage" isn't even ''that'' dark in the first place | ||
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:::::::The only thing you're holding onto here is how an idiom supports your argument, which I already disproved. Get an actual argument together. You say you want I moved because it's related to terrorism? I don't suppose you want us to stop using the words bomb and religion because they're related too? As a matter of fact, why don't we just ban every word that's possibly related to terrorism? {{User|Vommack}} | :::::::The only thing you're holding onto here is how an idiom supports your argument, which I already disproved. Get an actual argument together. You say you want I moved because it's related to terrorism? I don't suppose you want us to stop using the words bomb and religion because they're related too? As a matter of fact, why don't we just ban every word that's possibly related to terrorism? {{User|Vommack}} | ||
:I feel it's too dark and isn't even used in the Mario series, to my knowledge, kidnapped on the other hand has been, so has bomb. {{User|Yoshi876}} | :I feel it's too dark and isn't even used in the Mario series, to my knowledge, kidnapped on the other hand has been, so has bomb. {{User|Yoshi876}} | ||
::Once again, you invalidated the whole "it feels too dark" thing yourself. There's nothing wrong with the current name.{{User|Vommack | ::Once again, you invalidated the whole "it feels too dark" thing yourself. There's nothing wrong with the current name.{{User|Vommack}} | ||
@Sinaco Just because it doesn't sound like a Mario term doesn't mean it has less value, and so what ''Kidnapped'' doesn't have the same feel we're not voting on which name sounds cooler. {{User|Yoshi876}} | @Sinaco Just because it doesn't sound like a Mario term doesn't mean it has less value, and so what ''Kidnapped'' doesn't have the same feel we're not voting on which name sounds cooler. {{User|Yoshi876}} | ||
:Well, on your way of thinking, "Hostage" meaning Terrorism and Darkness to you is just personal and changing it really wont solve anything. "Captive" or "Kidnapped" does not change it anyway. Instead of using adjectives like kidnapped or captive, it is better to leave it as s well noun that describes their situation, "Hostages", is fine! {{User|Sinanco}} | :Well, on your way of thinking, "Hostage" meaning Terrorism and Darkness to you is just personal and changing it really wont solve anything. "Captive" or "Kidnapped" does not change it anyway. Instead of using adjectives like kidnapped or captive, it is better to leave it as s well noun that describes their situation, "Hostages", is fine! {{User|Sinanco}} | ||