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This category sucks. Its name sets itself up as the counterpart to [[:Category:Villains]] (in which "villain" has been [[Category talk:Villains|tentatively defined]] as someone who opposes the main characters with clearly evil intentions), but the intro sentence describes the category as being used for ''any'' protagonist. No, "hero" is not synonymous with "protagonist" in any context, and I don't know why we still use it, especially since it's not intuitive in the slightest. This has also led to every playable character in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' being listed as a Hero (presumably due to their role in the Subspace Emissary) despite the majority of them not taking a leading role at any point, and all of the [[partner]]s in the ''[[Paper Mario (series)|Paper Mario]]'' series being listed as Heroes despite them playing second fiddle to [[Mario]], and every playable character in the ''[[Mario & Sonic (series)|Mario & Sonic]]'' series because someone clearly thought that [[:Category:Playable Characters]] didn't exist. This is a confusing and poorly implemented mess. Let's try to clean it up, shall we? | This category sucks. Its name sets itself up as the counterpart to [[:Category:Villains]] (in which "villain" has been [[Category talk:Villains|tentatively defined]] as someone who opposes the main characters with clearly evil intentions), but the intro sentence describes the category as being used for ''any'' protagonist. No, "hero" is not synonymous with "protagonist" in any context, and I don't know why we still use it, especially since it's not intuitive in the slightest. This has also led to every playable character in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' being listed as a Hero (presumably due to their role in the Subspace Emissary) despite the majority of them not taking a leading role at any point, and all of the [[partner]]s in the ''[[Paper Mario (series)|Paper Mario]]'' series being listed as Heroes despite them playing second fiddle to [[Mario]], and every playable character in the ''[[Mario & Sonic (series)|Mario & Sonic]]'' series because someone clearly thought that [[:Category:Playable Characters]] didn't exist. This is a confusing and poorly implemented mess. Let's try to clean it up, shall we? | ||
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===Option 1 (strictly define)=== | ===Option 1 (strictly define)=== | ||
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} How about everyone explicitly referred to as a hero, like the four | #{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} How about everyone explicitly referred to as a hero, like the four heroues of ''[[Super Paaper Mario]]''? Of course, that would include Bowser, but... | ||
===Option 2 (more broadly define)=== | ===Option 2 (more broadly define)=== | ||
#{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | #{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | ||
#[[User:Char89Charizard|Char89Charizard]] ([[User talk:Char89Charizard|talk]]) I have to agree. Protagonists aren't always heroes. I mean Wario and Bowser are protagonists in certain games but they're not considered heroes. | #[[User:Char89Charizard|Char89Charizard]] ([[User talk:Char89Charizard|talk]]) I have to agree. Protagonists aren't always heroes. I mean Wario and Bowser are protagonists in certain games but they're not considered heroes. | ||
===Option 3 (delete)=== | ===Option 3 (delete)=== | ||
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#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Per all. | #{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|LuigiMaster123}} Per all. | #{{User|LuigiMaster123}} Per all. | ||
===Option 4 (do nothing)=== | ===Option 4 (do nothing)=== | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== |